Brian Lara or Sachin Tendulkar as test match batsman?

[Harsh Thakor]

Arguably there has never been an era dominated by 2 such great batsman have been so close to each other as Brian Lara and Sachin Tendulkar.In pure test cricket Lara overshadowed Tendulkar in his peak because of his marginally greater flair.His best individual scores and series aggregates were better than Tendulkar.Lara could also singlehandedly turn games.However Sachin has been more consistent than Lara with a longevity incomparable by an sportsman,let alone cricketer.Sachin overcame a lean period to make a Muhamad Ali style comeback in 2010.What is significant is that both batsmen peaked in different periods.In Lara's peak time Tendulkar declined while in Tendulkar's reign at his best Lara lost form.In his peak period Ricky Ponting had the best average amongst any great .However I don't think Ponting faced half the pressure Lara and Sachin did. Tendulkar has a better average,run aggregate and number of centuries.However Lara has better match performances as evaluated by Anantha Narayana and has also scored a greater average percentage of the team's total score.What may have worked in favour of Lara was that he peaked in a weak West Indian batting line up while Sachin played for a stronger batting side.Lara also scored 11 double-centuries against Sachin's 4. Tendulkar was technically better but Lara revealed greater artistry.Sachin was like an architect while Lara was like a poet and surgeon combined.Alan Donald rated Tendulkar the best batsman he ever bolwed to while Glen Mcgrath gave the most marginal of verdicts in favour of Lara.Mcgrath felt Lara was more attacking and took the initiative away from the bowler more than Lara. Personally if I had to choose between the two for pure test match cricket I would choose Brian Lara.He would give the marginally greater impetus to a team to launch a win and could single-handedly lift the team in a crisis with his marathon scores.Sachin in terms of consistency could be the best of all sportsman but was not as explosive as Lara who never curbed his scoring rate.Overall Tendulkar is the more complete batsman and definitely ahead combing test and one day Cricket. The truest test would have witnessing Lara and Tendulkar in Kerry Packer World Series Cricket.I would have backed Sachin to top the averages but backed Brian to score more class match-wining scores.Below I have compile ed tables which reveal the facets of both these icons. Below I have posted an article Written by Brian Asirvadham on 06 February 2011 on Sporting Inquirer How big a role does longevity play, when assessing sporting greatness. The comparison between Brian Lara and Sachin Tendulkar, essentially comes down to whether you favor a sportsman who produces consistent excellence over an extended period of time, or whether you place more emphasis on the peak years of an athlete’s career, and prefer a pure sporting genius, who was just frighteningly brilliant. Don’t get me wrong, Lara had over a decade, as arguably the game’s best player, it’s just that Tendulkar has had an even more extraordingary reign at the pinnacle of his sport. Most people feel that Brian Lara, in his prime, was the better player. He was more dynamic, more likely to take an attack by the throat, and played more match-winning innings. The reality is that most of Tendulkar’s records are purely a product of longevity, which is obviously a talent in itself, but not the most important criteria, for assessing sporting greatness. Longevity is a result of mental hunger, and obviously great physical fitness and endurance. While the bodies of some professional sportsmen break down quite early, others take great pride in their diet, nutrition, and physical preparation, and carry on close to the age of 40. These types of athletes seem to have an insatiable appetite for success, and genuinely love to compete. But, what of the sportsperson that retires in the prime of his career. What do we make of them. Do we acknowledge, that they have simply accomplished everything they set out to do, and now want to explore other opportunities in life. When both Brian Lara and Shane Warne retired from international cricket in 2007, they were still good enough to carry on playing for another couple of years. Is their legacy diminished, because the likes of Tendulkar and Muttiah Muralitharan ended up playing for longer, and eclipsing all of their records. Only a very, very hard marker would believe that to be the case. At no level, is longevity a product of skill, brilliance, or any real form of sporting greatness. Like any job, it’s simply a result of a desire to keep performing. You can’t penalize a sportsman, because they choose to end their career at a certain point, and do something else with their life. The real key to assessing sporting greatness, is to base it on quality, not quantity. For however long an athlete chooses to compete, you evaluate their impact in that period of time, and then compare their resumes to their peers. As long as you have at least seven or eight years of real dominance and pure brilliance, then the emphasis should be placed on those peak years, and not on the longevity of a sportsman. There have been plenty of sporting champions who had more of an impact in 10 seasons, than other greats had in close to 20 seasons. The gap between Lara and Tendulkar is minute, and you can make an argument for either of them, depending on whether you prefer the technical mastery of Tendulkar, or the sheer genius and pure brilliance of Lara. Interestingly enough, I have always felt that there are plenty of differences in their styles of play to determine who was better, without even considering the issue of longevity, which to me is not all that important, for the simple reason that Lara was still good enough to continue his career for another couple of years, when he announced his retirement. I don’t plan on penalizing him for wanting to spend more time with his family, and do something else with his life. For most of his career, Brian Lara was regarded as the world’s most dangerous, and formidable batsman. His best has always been the best. He had the stunning ability to destroy an attack, and play the type of innings that literally dragged his team over the finish line. If you had to choose one of them when they were at the peak of their powers, a lot of good judges would choose Lara, because he was such a dynamic match-winner. He was a real game-changer, who so often played the defining innings of the match, that carried the West Indies to victory. Throughout the second half of his career, the fact that he did it in a very weak team, where all the opposition’s bullets were pointed at him, much like his legendary West Indian predecessor, George Headley, only adds to his greatness. A lot of batsman would have crumbled under that sort of pressure, but Lara took it in his stride, and never once complained. Then there are the aesthetic qualities of Lara’s batsmanship that made him such a compelling sportsman to watch. It would be a reasonable assumption to say, that in the minds of most neutral cricket fans, Lara was the batsman that most people genuinely loved watching. He was a box-office attraction, and you simply couldn’t take your eyes off the cricket, when he was at the crease. The man was mercurially brilliant, and the game has been poorer since his retirement. All cricket fans have the greatest admiration for Sachin Tendulkar’s meticulous approach, and his continued commitment. But, ultimately in the eyes of this cricket observer, it’s safe to say that Tendulkar’s longevity doesn’t trump the pure genius of Brian Lara. Tendulkar's Test career(compiled from S.Rajesh of cricinfo) Period Tests Runs Average 100s/ 50s Till Dec 1992 20 1085 37.41 4/ 4 Jan 1993 to Dec 1996 26 2021 59.44 6/ 11 Jan 1997 to Dec 2002 59 5705 63.38 21/ 20 Jan 2003 to Dec 2006 29 1779 44.47 4/ 7 Jan 2007 onwards 32 2857 58.30 12/ 12 Career 166 13,447 55.56 47/ 54 During that six-year period from January 1997 to December 2002, Tendulkar was unquestionably the best batsman in the world, handling pace in Australia and South Africa as effectively as he did spin in Sri Lanka. And then, of course, there was the epic 136 against Pakistan in Chennai which, unfortunately for him, wasn't enough to take India to victory against Pakistan. In only 59 Tests he managed 21 centuries - an average of one every 2.81 matches. His average during this phase was well ahead of the second-placed Andy Flower, who led a string of batsmen who averaged in the md-50s. Best Test batsmen between Jan 1997 and Dec 2002 Batsman Tests Runs Average 100s/ 50s Sachin Tendulkar 59 5705 63.38 21/ 20 Andy Flower 41 3464 56.78 9/ 18 Matthew Hayden 35 3054 56.55 12/ 10 Rahul Dravid 62 5178 55.08 14/ 25 Aravinda de Silva 38 3134 54.98 12/ 9 Inzamam-ul-Haq 49 3740 51.94 12/ 15 Jacques Kallis 63 4447 51.70 11/ 25 Ricky Ponting 57 3916 50.85 14/ 14 Unfortunately for Tendulkar, his best period coincided with one where India had a poor bowling attack, especially overseas, and a batting line-up that tended to crumble quite often on tours. In 69 Tests between the beginning of 1993 and the end of 2001, India won 23, but only three of those came abroad. During this period, Tendulkar contributed almost 20% of all runs scored off the bat by India, and more than 21% when they played in Australia, South Africa, England, New Zealand or the West Indies. From 2002 onwards, there were many more batsmen contributing - Rahul Dravid, Virender Sehwag and VVS Laxman weighed in consistently both home and away, which significantly reduced the dependence on Tendulkar: he has contributed only 14.30% of the team runs since 2002. With the bowling attack getting stronger as well, Tendulkar has been a part of 15 away Test wins during this period, and 32 wins in all in these eight-and-a-half years. Tendulkar's contribution to the team Period Tendulkar's runs Team runs Percentage Till Dec 1992 1085 9122 11.89 Jan 1993 to Dec 2001 6334 32,048 19.76 Jan '93 to Dec '01, in Aus, SA, NZ, Eng, WI 1783 8368 21.31 Jan 2002 onwards 6028 42,140 14.30 Overall 13,477 83,310 16.18 A standout feature of Tendulkar's career has been his tendency to save his best for the greatest team of his generation. Few batsmen have consistently got the better of Australia over the last two decades, but Tendulkar is clearly one of them. His two stunning hundreds on his first tour to Australia announced him as a special talent, while his Boxing Day century in 1999 showed the gulf between him and the rest of the Indian batsmen. Later in his career some of the others - Laxman and Sehwag, especially - also showed their liking for the Australian attack, but Tendulkar is the one player who has sustained his performances against Australia for 20 years. Highest Test averages against Australia since 1990 Batsman Tests Runs Average 100s/ 50s Sachin Tendulkar 29 2748 56.08 10/ 11 VVS Laxman 24 2204 55.10 6/ 10 Virender Sehwag 15 1483 51.13 3/ 7 Brian Lara 31 2856 51.00 9/ 11 Kevin Pietersen 12 1116 50.72 2/ 7 Richie Richardson 14 1084 49.27 4/ 4 Graham Thorpe 16 1235 45.74 3/ 8 Shivnarine Chanderpaul 17 1303 44.93 4/ 8 Tendulkar's Test average in Australia is marginally higher than his average against them at home, while six of his ten hundreds against them have come in Australia. Best Test averages by overseas batsmen in Australia since 1990 (Qual: 750 runs) Batsman Tests Runs Average 100s/ 50s Virender Sehwag 7 833 59.50 2/ 3 Sachin Tendulkar 16 1522 58.53 6/ 5 VVS Laxman 11 1081 54.05 4/ 3 Rahul Dravid 12 972 48.60 1/ 5 Jacques Kallis 12 915 45.75 2/ 5 Brian Lara 19 1469 41.97 4/ 4 Out of the 271 innings he has played in Tests, 220 have been at the No. 4 slot, where he has amassed more than 11,000 runs at an average exceeding 57. With a cut-off of 2500 runs at that position, only five batsmen have a higher average. And 41 of his 47 hundreds have been scored at this slot, with four coming at No. 5 and two at No. 6. Best No. 4s in Test history (Qual: 2500 runs) Batsman Innings Runs Average 100s/ 50s Everton Weekes 57 3372 63.62 11/ 17 Jacques Kallis 130 6943 61.99 25/ 31 Mahela Jayawardene 133 7287 59.72 24/ 24 Mohammad Yousuf 60 3373 59.17 11/ 13 Greg Chappell 86 4316 59.12 15/ 19 Sachin Tendulkar 220 11,239 57.34 41/ 45 Javed Miandad 140 6925 54.10 19/ 31 Denis Compton 86 4234 53.59 13/ 20 Inzamam-ul-Haq 98 4867 52.90 15/ 21 Brian Lara 148 7535 51.25 24/ 31 One of the criticisms levelled against Tendulkar has been his relative lack of runs in second innings: he averages only 42.76 in all second innings, and 36.72 in the fourth innings. However, that also means he has been exceptional in the first innings, thus setting up games for India. He averages 62.88 in all first innings for the team, and 71.72 in the first innings of a match. His overall first-innings average is among the highest: among the batsmen with 4000 such runs, only six have a higher average. Performances of Brian Lara compiled from Ananta Narayan on cricinfo cordon Top 5 innings analysis Top 5 inns (Runs) : 400 375 277 226 221 Total: 1499 Avge: 299.8 These small analytical segments bring new insights. The first is the average of the top-5 innings played by the concerned batsman. Lara's average of almost 300 is the highest of all batsmen. Next comes Bradman with 292.2 and then comes Sehwag, with 275.2. This confirms Lara's penchant for playing huge innings. Top 5 inns (Balls): 582 538 372 360 354 Total: 2206 Avge: 441.2 The next one is to look at the top 5 innings in terms of balls faced. The balls played data is available even for many older players. But this is not a complete analysis. Notwithstanding his attacking play, Lara has genuinely played many long innings. His average for the top-5 innings is a huge 441. The leader in this regards is Hutton with 588, followed by Hammond, with 566. Amongst modern batsmen, Jayawardene leads with 463 and Lara comes next. Dravid's average is 438. Lara as the highest scorer HS Inns: 65 % of inns: 28.0 HS Runs total: 7613 HS Next Best: 3623 % of Lara's total: 47.6 This is a new piece of analysis. I have determined the number of innings in which Lara was the leading scorer in the innings and worked out this as a % of total innings. More importantly, to get a handle on the level of support, I have added the next highest scores and determined this total as a % of the total of Lara's innings. The numbers are very illuminative. Lara has top-scored in 28.0% of the innings he played in. His is the highest amongst modern batsmen. Only Gavaskar matches this number. Of course, many old timers have figures in excess of 30, Bradman leading with 37.5%. The matching with Gavaskar indicates how often Lara carried his team. The next one is an even more enlightening one. This defines the support received. Lara received the least support amongst all batsmen. The next best batsmen have totalled 47.6% of Lara's aggregate, below even half-way stage. He is the only batsman to have received below 50% support. Sehwag is next with 53.5% and then comes Hutton with 53.7%. Just as a comparison, the number for Tendulkar is 65.4% and for Ponting, 64.9%. This is a clear confirmation of how often Lara carried the burden. Innings break-down Sub-10 innings: No- 62 % of total-26.7% Sub-25 innings: No-100 % of total-43.1% Sub-50 innings: No-147 % of total-63.4% In this new analysis I look at the pattern of low scores. Lara has had 26.7% of single-digit scores, 43% of scores below 25 and a huge 63.4% of sub-50 scores. This indicates that Lara was not a great starter. I have not looked at all batsmen but Michael Clarke (27.5%) has a higher single-digit component. The older batsmen all have figures below 15%. Sangakkara has a below-20% tally. Team runs/balls analysis Runs added with late order batsmen (7-11) : 1487 (25) Avge runs added with late order batsmen : 59.5 Team runs while at crease : 21448 Batsman's % Runs contribution : 55.7% Team balls while at crease : 38562 % of balls faced while at crease: 51.2% Total team runs : 63049 Batsman Runs % : 19.0% The runs added with late order batsmen are not very high. Lara's average is around 60. Tendulkar is much higher at 69.6. But let me say that 100% data is not available for the batsmen who started the career before 1992 or so. Lara's overall runs contribution to his team total is a reasonably high 19%. Bradman has contributed 25%. Most batsmen contribute between 15 and 17%. It is understandable that Lara scores 55% of runs while at crease. He outscored his fellow batsmen often. Innings analysis Description T I N Runs Avge 100 50 Freq Team-Runs % Inns 1 58 1 4000 70.18 12 12 4.8 18111 22.1% Inns 2 72 0 4249 59.01 13 21 5.5 23053 18.4% Inns 3 56 0 2264 40.43 7 8 8.0 12704 17.8% Inns 4 46 5 1440 35.12 2 7 23.0 9181 15.7% The innings runs and averages follow a similar pattern. Most batsmen have high-first, high-second, reasonable-third and average-fourth innings values. Lara is no exception. There are many other top batsmen who have better third and fourth innings figures. Kallis has a third innings average of 68.8 and Gavaskar, a fourth innings average of 58.7. Home/Away analysis Home 65 111 5 6217 58.65 17 26 6.5 32020 19.4% Away 66 121 1 5736 47.80 17 22 7.1 31029 18.5% This again has the same pattern as most batsmen. Lara has averaged 20% better at home. There are batsmen who have done 30-40% better at home. On the flip side, Cook averages 43.5 at home and 54.3 away. Dravid also averages better away. However no one can beat Barrington who averages 51.2 and 68.9. It is clear that Lara has not set the foreign grounds alight, barring probably Sri Lankan. Result based analysis Won 32 52 4 2929 61.02 8 16 6.5 15645 18.7% Drawn 36 54 2 3708 71.31 12 10 4.5 18400 20.2% Lost 63 126 0 5316 42.19 14 22 9.0 29004 18.3% This is a dicey area. The common tendency is only to talk about performances in won matches only. That is very nice in strong teams. However in weaker teams it is essential to look at how the player has performed in drawn and lost matches. Anyhow when your team only has won only 25% of matches you have played in, there is no other alternative. This point was also emphasized by in a comment made recently. Lara's average of 42 in lost matches is the highest amongst all contemporary batsmen. Similarly the % of team runs scored in lost matches is a very high 18.3%, the highest amongst all modern batsmen. His performance in drawn matches is also very good and is matched only by Kallis. Probably the more important factor is that Lara has maintained his contributions to the team runs at an even keel whether the matches are won, drawn or lost. This is a trait most batsmen lack in and most followers do not understand and appreciate. The emphasis is on winning. Analysis by country faced Australia 31 58 2 2856 51.00 9 11 6.4 13963 20.5% Bangladesh 2 2 0 173 86.50 1 1 2.0 911 19.0% England 30 51 3 2983 62.15 7 11 7.3 13918 21.4% India 17 29 0 1002 34.55 2 6 14.5 8908 11.2% New Zealand 11 17 0 704 41.41 1 5 17.0 5080 13.9% Pakistan 12 22 0 1173 53.32 4 3 5.5 6109 19.2% South Africa 18 35 0 1715 49.00 4 9 8.8 9432 18.2% Sri Lanka 8 14 1 1125 86.54 5 2 2.8 3577 31.5% Zimbabwe 2 4 0 222 55.50 1 0 4.0 1151 19.3% It is clear that Lara met his match against the Indian bowlers. Any talk about weakness against spin should be killed at birth because of his performance against Sri Lanka. New Zealand was another team which troubled him. But bring on England and Sri Lanka, he was on song. The average against Australia might not look great but let us not forget the quality of Australian bowling he faced. He played only 4 Tests against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe and probably did not care much about accumulating runs. It is amazing that Lara has scored nearly a third of the team runs scored against Sri Lanka. And over 20% of the team runs scored against Australia and England. Batting position analysis Bat-Pos 1 1 0 20 20.00 0 0 0.0 Bat-Pos 2 1 0 91 91.00 0 1 0.0 Bat-Pos 3 66 4 3749 60.47 9 13 7.3 Bat-Pos 4 148 1 7535 51.26 24 31 6.2 Bat-Pos 5 14 1 536 41.23 1 3 14.0 Bat-Pos 6 1 0 8 8.00 0 0 0.0 Bat-Pos 8 1 0 14 14.00 0 0 0.0 Avge Batting Position: 3.78 Like Tendulkar, no.4 was his favourite batting position. However unlike his fellow not-so-tall-legend, he batted at no.3 often. He averaged over 60 at no.3 and above 50 at no.4. These were his bread-and-butter positions and he performed very well there. Incidentally the sole no.5 century was the most famous of all: the Bridgetown classic of 153*. Analysis by year 1990 1 2 0 49 24.50 0 0 0.0 1991 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0 0.0 1992 3 6 0 195 32.50 0 3 0.0 1993 7 10 0 586 58.60 1 3 10.0 1994 8 14 0 996 71.14 2 4 7.0 1995 12 20 2 1222 67.89 4 6 5.0 1996 5 9 0 226 25.11 0 1 0.0 1997 12 21 0 859 40.90 3 3 7.0 1998 9 15 1 608 43.43 0 5 0.0 1999 8 15 1 832 59.43 3 4 5.0 2000 9 17 0 497 29.24 2 1 8.5 2001 9 18 0 1151 63.94 3 4 6.0 2002 7 10 0 351 35.10 0 3 0.0 2003 10 19 1 1344 74.67 5 5 3.8 2004 12 21 1 1178 58.90 3 4 7.0 2005 9 17 0 1110 65.29 5 0 3.4 2006 10 18 0 749 41.61 3 2 6.0 Ignoring the starting years, Lara probably had three bad years, 1996, 2000 and 2002. The spreading of these years also was responsible for Lara comfortably maintaining averages of well over 50 over multi-year spans. He made up for his small scores with huge scores. Peer comparisons Peer-All-T7 232 11953 52.89 14372 523291 36.41 1.45 Peer-Team-T7 232 11953 52.89 1268 40252 31.74 1.67 Lara out-performed his peers by a margin of 45% and his team-mates by 67%. While there are others who have out-performed their peers by higher margins, Kallis by 52%, there is no one even close in the team-mates comparisons. He was head-and-shoulders above them.

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why do you keep creating so many threads? (to which you never respond?) I get a feeling your a bot. Somebody put a thread starting restriction on this guy

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[Mornantau]

The genius of an exceptional cricketer can only be understood by someone who has been exceptional cricketer himself, either as a top bowler facing the great batsman or as a veteron batsman who can read the quality of the Great batsman's game. THE VERY FIRST THING TO ASK YOURSELF IS WHY SACHIN IS THE ONLY ONE BEING COMPARED TO DON FOR BATSMANSHIP ACROSS THE WORLD ? (Google SACHIN better than DON and you ll get many posts, not by Indian authors/ sportsmen mind u, Google LARA better than DON and you find practically nothing) AND many in the Australian media and other Aussie circles even consider Sachin as better then Don. (even though Don is their National Hero).( read item 12 & 13) There was a research conducted in Griffiths University Australia that even prooved Tendulkar marginally ahead of the Don (item 13). 1) GEOFFREY BOYCOTT ON SACHIN (knows more about batting than most people alive, is neutral being english cricketer) RATES JACK HOBBS AS THE GREATEST EVER AHEAD OF BRADMAN. He (Jack Hobbs) had a fabulous technique, batted on uncovered pitches. He was the best batsman on all types of pitches, be it wet or dry or grassy or even on bouncy track. He was believed to be better than Bradman when the pitches were difficult. He (Sachin) will be the nearest to Jack Hobbs that I have ever seen in my 50 years of playing and commentating. In his career he has shown a remarkable mobility to bat superbly in all types of conditions. That will be his legacy. Sachin will be remembered for his great technique, mental toughness and an iron will. This has made him a very strong and determined character. http://cricketsoccer.com/sachin-is-the-closest-to-sir-jack-hobbs-geoffrey-boycott-2/ 2) NASSER HUSSAIN ON SACHIN (being English player, is neutral to Lara n Tendulkar): I have never liked comparisons between great players, but after Wednesday’s incredible game it must be said — Sachin Tendulkar is the greatest batsman of all time. Better than Brian Lara and Ricky Ponting, the other two great players of my era. Better than Sir Viv Richards, Sunil Gavaskar and Allan Border. And I would even say better than Sir Don Bradman himself. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-1253563/NASSER-HUSSAIN-Mighty-Sachin-Tendulkar-tops-Lara-Ponting-The-Don.html 3) WARNE ON SACHIN : "I'll be going to bed having nightmares of Sachin just running down the wicket and belting me back over the head for six. He was unstoppable. I don't think anyone, apart from Don Bradman, is in the same class as Sachin Tendulkar. He is just an amazing player." http://sports.in.msn.com/gallery/the-best-quotes-on-sachin-tendulkar?page=8 "Sachin is the greatest player I have played against. It's appropriate that my last game is versus Sachin," Warne said. http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/40712/ 4) PONTING ON SACHIN Ponting (2012): “I am on record before as saying I felt Sachin was the best player I played against,” he said. “He has so much success against us in our conditions and their conditions. http://www.wisdenindia.com/cricket-news/sachin-best-lara-won-matches-ponting/38607 He did say Lara won more games for his team, but that is something that was more opinionated as it is not getting prooved with or without stats. (NOW he is suddenly changing his mind with TelDulkar reaching the close of his career, and obviously not in his prime due to injuries n Age, CLASSIC CASE OF OUT OF SIGHT OUT OF MIND) 5) WASIM AKRAM ON SACHIN Tendulkar is better than Lara, says Akram http://tendulkar.co.in/index.php/2006/04/28/tendulkar-is-better-than-lara-says-akram/ 6) HANIF MOHAMMED (former pakistani great batsman) : KARACHI: Pakistan batting great Hanif Muhammad rated Sachin Tendulkar better than the legendary Australian Sir Donald Bradman and described him as the best batsman he has seen in his life. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-12-25/top-stories/35998393_1_sachin-tendulkar-pakistan-cricket-half-centuries http://ibnlive.in.com/news/cricketnext/tendulkar-better-than-bradman-hanif/369021-78.html 7) ALLAN DONALD As far as I am concerned, he (Sachin) is by far the best I have seen or played against. www.rediff.com/cricket/2002/sep/04inter2.htm 8) GREG CHAPPELL : "If batting is an art then Sachin Tendulkar is the Picasso among batsmen. On that basis Bradman must have been Michelangelo." http://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/sachin/news/187120-sachin-tendulkar-is-picasso-among-batsmen-greg-chappell 9) BRIAN LARA Brian Lara calls Sachin Tendulkar "our period’s Don Bradman" http://blogs.bettor.com/Brian-Lara-calls-Sachin-Tendulkar-quotour-periods-Don-Bradman-quot-a45194 10) ZAHEER ABBAS (one of the best batsman Pakistan produced) “People keep calling him (Bradman) the greatest. I never saw him bat but I know, somehow, that he couldn’t have been better than Tendulkar,” http://www.weeklyvoice.com/cat6/tendulkar-better-than-bradman-abbas/ 11) MICHAEL HOLDING His comments on Lara aren't really convincing. They can also be questioned as to whether they are tilting in favour of players from his own country as only talks of Viv Richards and Lara (Both from West Indies) but no room for even Don among ATGs. Secondly, he contradicts himself by first saying Lara is technically better (which btw almost anyone know Tendulkar's technique is better) then going on to make this statement in the same breath. “Lara made runs against spinners and medium-pacers, but used to be in trouble against real pace, like against a Shoaib Akhtar or a Wasim Akram.” http://www.sportqa.com/Brian-Lara-was-scared-of-real-pacers-says-Michael-Holding-Cricket-News-Update-a29570 http://www.guardian.co.tt/sport/2011/08/23/holding-lara-technically-better-tendulkar The latter statement by the way will be confirmed by anyone who has watched Lara hit by Shoaib's delivery and being challenged by Donald's bowling. I cant remember any Lara innings where he dominated / took apart a leading quick bowler of the quality of Donald or Shoaib or Wasim etc at his best. 12) If one says that Lara is great because he got up after being hit by Shoaib, then Tendulkar's achievement is even bigger since in one of his first series as a 16 yr old kid Tendulkar got hit by a Waqar bouncer on the chin and was injured. He still got up and went on to make 50 runs against one of the best Pak attacks ever. This is explained and Shoaib's claim of Tendulkar being scared of him is rubbished in this statement from Wasim Akram. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-09-24/top-stories/30197598_1_shoaib-akhtar-wasim-akram-rawalpindi-express Btw one can understand Shoaib not liking Sachin since Sachin took him to the cleaners in the WC India Pak match. HE also took apart Donald in South Africa, Wasim n Waqar a few times n many other quicks, and I can point out many such innings but can you point out any from LARA where he dominated these bowlers ? 13) RESEARCH CONDUCTED BY GRIFFITHS UNIVERSITY, AUSTRALIA ON COMPARISON B/W SACHIN N DON "It is on this basis that Tendulkar (who has sustained his average for 184 tests so far)has slightly eclipsed Bradman who played only 52. Both players are miles ahead of the rest of the pack" http://theconversation.com/is-don-is-good-how-tendulkar-eclipses-bradman-4875 14) Article by an Aussie writer comparing Don n Tendulkar. http://betting.betfair.com/cricket/cricket/tendulkar-is-a-better-batsman-041207.html 15) IAN BISHOP ON TENDULKAR "Sachin, to me, was the best I have bowled against" http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/52305/ Remember comparisons with Don involve performace in Test since Don never played ODIs. Considering ODIs theres an even greater consensus that Tendulkar is best. But agreed, someone might enjoy watching Lara or have him as his favourite,(as many in India had Viru as their favourite since he was unpredictable and a crowd puller) the more meaningful debate is a comparison b/w Tendulkar & Don which isnt based on just one particular statistic. Also please read the following arguments for Don vs Tendulkar which is not based on just one statistic http://deepanjoshi.com/ashes-to-ashes-dust-to-dust/tendulkar-and-bradman-beyond-the-average-argument/ http://deepanjoshi.com/ashes-to-ashes-dust-to-dust/tendulkar-and-bradman-beyond-the-average-argument-2/

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2) NASSER HUSSAIN ON SACHIN (being English player, is neutral to Lara n Tendulkar): I have never liked comparisons between great players, but after Wednesday’s incredible game it must be said — Sachin Tendulkar is the greatest batsman of all time. Better than Brian Lara and Ricky Ponting, the other two great players of my era. Better than Sir Viv Richards, Sunil Gavaskar and Allan Border. And I would even say better than Sir Don Bradman himself.

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SSry did I offend anyone with my comments ??

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People if u find time pls read Deepan Joshis articles on the subject (link mentioned at bottom of long post). Hes done some homework on Bradmans game before comparing