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Yes, the movie. A fantastic horror by Stanley Kubrick. I've got plenty of questions concerning this one. If anyone here had read the novel of Stephen King, do be kind enough to answer these quires.

What did the picture in the end (after Nicholson freezes to death) symbolize? What's the 'red rum' also read as Murder all about? Also, the scene where truck load of 'red rum' pours in a room? Its not just something that comes up in Danny's (kid) dream but even Wendy (wife) sees it while searching for Danny around the lobby. What was the scene of the girl/guy in a dog or a funny random animal's outfit giving (which seemed like) a blow job to a man in a suit that Wendy sees while scouting for Danny? Who hurts Danny in room 237? Was what Nicholson saw there an illusion ? The naked old women all bruised up. Was Nicholson just seeing things in the gold room? As Wendy had also seen a bunch of dead guys there. Was the whole thing; the hotel, staff, the job to care take the hotel, a pre planned move by Nicholson? Is he dead or possessed? He seemed like a normal guy hit by isolation and he was mostly not living in solitude to go all nuts like that. What does the writing on the pages that Nicholson had been rambling on mean?

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Yes, the movie. A fantastic horror by Stanley Kubrick. I've got plenty of questions concerning this one. If anyone here had read the novel of Stephen King, do be kind enough to answer these quires.
It's not a horror movie, but a "Kubrick movie". It's a neo-noir-mystery-psychological-supernatural-horror-slasher-thriller-black comedy-drama :hatsoff: Just like coen's or tarantino's movies, it don't follow a single genre.
What did the picture in the end (after Nicholson freezes to death) symbolize? What's the 'red rum' also read as Murder all about? Also, the scene where truck load of 'red rum' pours in a room? Its not just something that comes up in Danny's (kid) dream but even Wendy (wife) sees it while searching for Danny around the lobby. What was the scene of the girl/guy in a dog or a funny random animal's outfit giving (which seemed like) a blow job to a man in a suit that Wendy sees while scouting for Danny? Who hurts Danny in room 237? Was what Nicholson saw there an illusion ? The naked old women all bruised up. Was Nicholson just seeing things in the gold room? As Wendy had also seen a bunch of dead guys there. Was the whole thing; the hotel, staff, the job to care take the hotel, a pre planned move by Nicholson? Is he dead or possessed? He seemed like a normal guy hit by isolation and he was mostly not living in solitude to go all nuts like that. What does the writing on the pages that Nicholson had been rambling on mean?
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I used to know many of the answers, but right now I can't re-collect it. Try in imdb FAQ's or drop the query in the board. You will get it :two_thumbs_up:
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Have you watched 2001:A Space odyssey yet?
Awesome movie. But looks kinda lame now as many movies are inspired/copied this one. Trivia: This movie released in 1968, a yr before appollo moon landing. The apollo footage looks very similar to this movie's scenes. Conspiracy theorists accuse kubrick that he worked with NASA to create the fake landings.
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Its not fair to hand over all credits to Kubrick as this twisted plot is something common in every single Stephen King book. AFAIK, Kubrick did add a few scenes and its was marvelously portrayed.

It's a fantastic film all right. Everything is open to interpretation . The picture in the end suggests that Jack was the person who had committed the crime many years back
Yea, there are but few scenes have been detailed in the novel. I got plenty of amazing answers for it. ________ The dog costume question- In actuality, the significance behind this scene is explained in much greater detail in the novel. It is a dog costume, not a chipmunk costume, and the character in the book is referred to as the "Dogman." In the novel he chases Danny through the hotel, scaring him with absurd sexual threats. The man in the tuxedo is Derwent, a corrupt playboy and former owner of the hotel. The pair were former lovers, but Roger, the man in the costume, is desperate to continue the relationship. Derwent agrees at only one cost - Roger must dress in a humiliating dog costume, walk on all fours and bark. This all happened in the past and is being relived in this scene. The Dogman is perfoming fellatio on Derwent. Who hurt Danny after his visit to room 237? In the book, after Danny visits room 217 (237 for the movie) the ghost of the woman who killed herself in the bath chokes him. In the book, she is Mrs. Massey, an older woman who is seducing a man much younger than her, until late one night he leaves in the car they arrived in, and doesn't return. Distraught, Mrs. Massey kills herself with liquor and sleeping bills while taking a bath. However, since none of this is in the actual film, fan theories have sprung up regarding her importance to the movie. One theory is that she is in fact Grady's wife, and 237 is where he murdered his family. The picture- There are two possibilities: Most likely, Jack's soul is forever linked to the hotel, and every once in a while, he is reborn into the world, only to return to it, and instigate more killings. Basically, he is constantly resuming his duties as the caretaker of the spirits in the Hotel. That, or every time someone dies at the hotel, their soul becomes linked to it, and the photo at the end changes to illustrate that link. However, if that theory were true, then the cook would also be in the photo. Are the ghosts real, or does Jack just imagine them? The Ghosts are real. It all really happens. He goes crazy because the hotel is working its supernatural powers on him, so by the end it is easy to persuade him to do its dirty work. The point of the picture at the end is that Jack keeps returning to the hotel in different reincarnations and getting the job as the caretaker. If it were all just visions, who unlocked the pantry door? The idea is that Nicholson's soul has been around for a long time, and that each time he is reborn he returns to the Overlook Hotel and goes on a murder spree. This is facilitated by the evil, restless spirits residing in the hotel. Nothing is ever said in the movie to answer your question, but in the book Jack was driven mad by alcohol. He was an alcoholic and drank too much. This combined with the isolation drove him insane.
Have you watched 2001:A Space odyssey yet?
I will surely watch it now.
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It's not a horror movie, but a "Kubrick movie". It's a neo-noir-mystery-psychological-supernatural-horror-slasher-thriller-black comedy-drama :hatsoff: Just like coen's or tarantino's movies, it don't follow a single genre. I used to know many of the answers, but right now I can't re-collect it. Try in imdb FAQ's or drop the query in the board. You will get it :two_thumbs_up:
Thanks. They answer pretty quick there. :good:
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Awesome movie. But looks kinda lame now as many movies are inspired/copied this one. Trivia: This movie released in 1968, a yr before appollo moon landing. The apollo footage looks very similar to this movie's scenes. Conspiracy theorists accuse kubrick that he worked with NASA to create the fake landings.
Disagree completely about this movie looking dated.
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Disagree completely about this movie looking dated.
It doesn't look dated to me as it has a nostasgic factor. But for a new viewer (this twilight era audience) it might look dated. The original Alien, Starwars and even Blade Runner have better special effects :--D
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It doesn't look dated to me as it has a nostasgic factor. But for a new viewer (this twilight era audience) it might look dated. The original Alien' date= Starwars and even Blade Runner have better special effects :--D
**** them. They don't even qualify to be movie buffs.
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A great horror flick -may be one of the best of all time period,Stop over analysing things just because it has Stanley Kubrick on it...It is nothing but a very well made horror flick that's it.

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It doesn't look dated to me as it has a nostasgic factor. But for a new viewer (this twilight era audience) it might look dated. The original Alien' date=' Starwars and even Blade Runner have better special effects :--D[/quote'] It's not about CGI,it's about that powerful emotion that each scene is tailored to evoke
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A great horror flick -may be one of the best of all time period' date='[b']Stop over analysing things just because it has Stanley Kubrick on it...It is nothing but a very well made horror flick that's it.
I did because it was based on Stephen King's book. How could you just assume the ending? As Yoda said, everything is open to interpretation but yet there were plenty of confusing scenes.
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I came to the same conclusion but according to the book those were real ghost.
Stanley kubrick merged reality and illusion so much that it will throw viewers of the edge. It is an attempt to confuse the mind of viewers as much as Jack Nicholson's mind. the-shining-typewriter.jpg This is where all it starts !!
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