express bowling Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Out of the pacers who are on the fringe of selection or actually playing, only Umesh is 140+ and Shami, Ishant and Dhawal are 135+ consistently. Even Ishant is failing in that now. VK, BK, PK, Irfan, Unadkat, Pandey, Mohit are all medium fast or medium pace. While there are a couple of good pacers in that list, question is .. are we selecting too many medium pacers ? This is happening for the first time in ten years. After 2000 , we were including in our team quite a lot of 135 k + pacers like Srinath,Agarkar, Zaheer, Nehra, VRV, Munaf( at debut ), Sreesanth, Ishant, RP And only a few medium pacers in that time - Irfan, PK, Balaji Are we going back to the late 70s and 80s - an era of super trundlers like Madan, Chetan, Ghavri, Prabhakar, Sandhu,Binny, who could do well only in England and the like. Generally we see that a combination of really quick bowlers, really skilled pacers and tall bouncy pacers above 135 k who are good , form really potent attacks. If a team is lucky to have really skilled actually quick bowlers then it is even better. The selectors should think about the potency and composition of the attack as a whole and not pick individual pacers randomly based on domestic performance mainly
express bowling Posted October 21, 2013 Author Posted October 21, 2013 how many 135K+ bowlers we have got ? Umesh, Aaron, Suyal, Shukla, Dhawal, - tallish Shami, Pankaj, - tall Nehra (old), -tallish Zaheer(old), - tallish Gony, - tall Awana, Dinda, Kaul, Ishant, - tall Abu Nechim, Tyagi used to be, I don't know his current status. He was tall too. p.s -- 6'2" or more classified as tall for a pacer. 6'0" and 6' 1" classified as tallish.
Hafeez Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 India need Junaid Khan,Mohd Irfan Type of Fast bowlers and Pakistan need Kohli,Dhoni type of Batsman,s Both team,s are Unlucky Indians dont have Fast bowler Pakistan dont have Match Winning Batsman,s :(
Hafeez Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Umesh, Aaron, Suyal, Shukla, Dhawal, - tallish Shami, Pankaj, - tall Nehra (old), -tallish Zaheer(old), - tallish Gony, - tall Awana, Dinda, Kaul, Ishant, - tall Abu Nechim, Tyagi used to be, I don't know his current status. He was tall too. p.s -- 6'2" or more classified as tall for a pacer. 6'0" and 6' 1" classified as tallish. Only Yadav is 140kph Bowler from this List and Yadav Ave is around 138kph Touch 140kph at Time only all Other Fast bowlers of Your List are Worse than ishant :finger:
Zanjeer Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Only Yadav is 140kph Bowler from this List and Yadav Ave is around 138kph Touch 140kph at Time only all Other Fast bowlers of Your List are Worse than ishant :finger: If you don't know about Indian cricket, you better shut the **** up or get ready to be abused..:finger:
express bowling Posted October 21, 2013 Author Posted October 21, 2013 India need Junaid Khan,Mohd Irfan Type of Fast bowlers and Pakistan need Kohli,Dhoni type of Batsman,s Both team,s are Unlucky Indians dont have Fast bowler Pakistan dont have Match Winning Batsman,s :( If you see, the combination of Md. Irfan who is fast and bouncy and Junaid who is really skilled and fast medium has worked for you. The combination is good. That is what I want to emphasize.
express bowling Posted October 21, 2013 Author Posted October 21, 2013 Only Yadav is 140kph Bowler from this List and Yadav Ave is around 138kph Touch 140kph at Time only all Other Fast bowlers of Your List are Worse than ishant :finger: I would request you not to hijack the thread with a pace war between our countries. Feel free to think that Umesh is a spinner if that makes you happy.
express bowling Posted October 21, 2013 Author Posted October 21, 2013 Mohit Sharma and Ishwar Pandey have the potential to bowl 135 to 140 k consistently. Question is..... would they ?
SLICKR392 Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 India need Junaid Khan' date=Mohd Irfan Type of Fast bowlers and Pakistan need Kohli,Dhoni type of Batsman,s Both team,s are Unlucky Indians dont have Fast bowler Pakistan dont have Match Winning Batsman,s :( One averaged over 100 in CT and the other 80+ in SA. Now STFU and **** off !
King Tendulkar Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 I simply cant believ we cant find bowlers who bowl 135 to 140 consistently. This is shocking 134-140 is not even a fast bowler. Yet we cant find bowlers who can do this!!! Scary. We had in the past!!! There must be some now, selctors are just insane
King Tendulkar Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 One averaged over 100 in CT and the other 80+ in SA. Now STFU and **** off ! Lets be honest. Juniad and Mohd Irfan would walk in to our team. But of course the top 50 indian batters would walk into paki team and be made captain!
King Tendulkar Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Mohit Sharma and Ishwar Pandey have the potential to bowl 135 to 140 k consistently. Question is..... would they ? Does he??
coffee_rules Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Indian Selectors' definition of players' role - Batsmen - Batting karnewale Bowlers - Batting karaanewale Wicketkeepers/fielders - Batting dekhnewale
rkt.india Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Indian definition of players' role - Batsmen - Batting karnewale Bowlers - Batting karaanewale Wicketkeepers/fielders - Batting dekhnewale Corrected.
msb1991 Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Does he?? That is the pace he bowled in the IPL.
G_B_ Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Ishant Sharma for eg started off bowling in the 140 bracket regularly The real question we should be asking is why bowlers like RP Munaf etc keep losing significant pace.
rkt.india Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Ishant Sharma for eg started off bowling in the 140 bracket regularly The real question we should be asking is why bowlers like RP Munaf etc keep losing significant pace. Lack of focus, commitment. Ishant's issue is different which is technical .
div Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Umesh, Aaron, Suyal, Shukla, Dhawal, - tallish Shami, Pankaj, - tall Nehra (old), -tallish Zaheer(old), - tallish Gony, - tall Awana, Dinda, Kaul, Ishant, - tall Abu Nechim, Tyagi used to be, I don't know his current status. He was tall too. p.s -- 6'2" or more classified as tall for a pacer. 6'0" and 6' 1" classified as tallish. Dhawal,Gony,Awana,Kaul,Abu Nechim,Nehra..all of them are medium fast
express bowling Posted October 21, 2013 Author Posted October 21, 2013 Does he?? I have seen Mohit do so in the IPL sometimes. In a recent zonal match, he was bowling with a lot of effort and zip. But he does not always bowl with effort or above 135 k .
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