MCcricket Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Akhtar is very underrated his record in tests is outstanding considering the roads he bowled on. Akhtar had huge fitness issues, he couldn't bowl anything more then 3 or 4 covers in a spell, I would have Steyn any day over Akhtar .
CG Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Akhtar had huge fitness issues' date=' he couldn't bowl anything more then 3 or 4 covers in a spell, I would have Steyn any day over Akhtar .[/quote'] U are right about fitness issues ,but a young akhtar was the most fearsome and difficult fast bowler to face in world cricket ever if i may say.Ricky pointing,hayden have said that and most batsman would agree.If he had steyn work ethic he would have a great bowler.But still if u ever wanted to pay to watch fast bowling akhtar would be top on that list.
vishalvirsingh Posted November 7, 2013 Author Posted November 7, 2013 His record in home conditions is far better. Thats why i was saying that where the conditions are not Swinging or helpful....Umesh shud be preferred to BHUVI as well as Shammi. IN this form Shammi shud be a Good pick ahead of BHuvi.... Umesh is the First choice test pacer today and I pity he is not playing.
MCcricket Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Let's cross our fingers, another bowler from s small town or village, reminds me of Munaf and how well he had bowled on his debut taking 7 wickets with swinging new and old ball at 147 being fastest and I was wondering he might go onto become India's best test bowler , what a waste a 6 3' bowler who could bowl in 90s and seam and swing the ball from s small runup to a discard
express bowling Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Talking of bowling combos in TESTS Umesh - Fast + Wicket taker Shami - Fast medium + skills + wicket taker Pandey - Tall + bouncy + skill + wicket taker maybe a good combination in SAF tests. Backup - Aaron if fit, BK. Zak - am not sure selectors would pick.
MCcricket Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Talking of bowling combos in TESTS Umesh - Fast + Wicket taker Shami - Fast medium + skills + wicket taker Pandey - Tall + bouncy + skill + wicket taker maybe a good combination in SAF tests. Backup - Aaron if fit, BK. Zak - am not sure selectors would pick. Selectors would be crazy not to pick Suyal a left arm fast, skillful bowler, Delhi prefers Trundler Narwal, washed out Nehra ahead of him is crazy
express bowling Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Let's cross our fingers' date=' another bowler from s small town or village, reminds me of Munaf and how well he had bowled on his debut taking 7 wickets with swinging new and old ball at 147 being fastest and I was wondering he might go onto become India's best test bowler , what a waste a 6 3' bowler who could bowl in 90s and seam and swing the ball from s small runup to a discard[/quote'] I know ..... Munaf , at debut, looked the most talented and lethal pacer I have ever seen from India. One thing though ... Munaf always looked lazy, even RP to some extent. Sree was not level headed. Shami looks like a hard worker to me.
express bowling Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Selectors would be crazy not to pick Suyal a left arm fast' date=' skillful bowler, Delhi prefers Trundler Narwal, washed out Nehra ahead of him is crazy[/quote'] Suyal looks very promising. He has pace as well as movement. Attacks the stumps. Can be a wicket taker. I think he should be tried in the India A team first. If he is not playing for Delhi, that is a crime. Perhaps the most talented Delhi pacer I have ever seen. Great FC record too. What plays in the minds of our state selectors is a mystery.
CG Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Let's cross our fingers' date=' another bowler from s small town or village, reminds me of Munaf and how well he had bowled on his debut taking 7 wickets with swinging new and old ball at 147 being fastest and I was wondering he might go onto become India's best test bowler , what a waste a 6 3' bowler who could bowl in 90s and seam and swing the ball from s small runup to a discard[/quote'] Munaf never had stamina.If u remember his speeds on his debut varied much in diff spells.He was 130ks in many spells .But shami has the stamina which will help and not to mention munaf seam position was not upright where as shami is as good as it gets.
cowboysfan Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Yadav is completely out of sorts,loi cricket has messed him up.I bet that he was outbowled in the nets by Bhuvi and Shami,we cant afford yadav's waywardness in these low scoring games.
vvvslaxman Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I don't rate Sham/Yadav differently after Shamis recent improvement i saw in one dayers. But looking both Shami has more control, accuracy than Ummi. Bhuvan will always be my first choice. He is a kind of guy who is capable of picking 2 or 3 wickets in one spell.
adi B Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I don't rate Sham/Yadav differently after Shamis recent improvement i saw in one dayers. But looking both Shami has more control' date=' accuracy than Ummi. Bhuvan will always be my first choice. He is a kind of guy who is capable of picking 2 or 3 wickets in one spell.[/quote'] i`ll pick umesh anyday over bhuvi and shami in tests..i dont care how the 3 fared in LOIs ,umesh has looked cut above the rest in tests..i would have played shami and yadav because they are more potent with the old ball compared to bhuvi.. yadav,bhuv,shami are WAD the 3 pacers to play in saf
vvvslaxman Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 i`ll pick umesh anyday over bhuvi and shami in tests..i dont care how the 3 fared in LOIs ,umesh has looked cut above the rest in tests..i would have played shami and yadav because they are more potent with the old ball compared to bhuvi.. yadav,bhuv,shami are WAD the 3 pacers to play in saf You need someone to do well with new ball as well. In foreign conditions if all 3 are in form they can be deadly. Hope Ashwin improves his bowling abroad so that we can dispense with one spinner.
CoverDrive Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 i would have selected these two only. Bhuvi has done decently in test and shami is in great form. Umesh is coming of a break and has not done great in build up matches. he needs some time. Bhuvi got only 1 big wicket but he bowled very well. he started accurately straightaway in the first spell when Shami was settling in.
fineleg Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 If Varun Aaron recovers - then we have the basic pool of: Fast - Umesh Yadav (erratic) and Varun Aaron (injury prone) Medium fast - Shami Medium - Ishwar Pandey Slow Medium - Bhuvi Same side goal - Ishant Sharma
gaurav92 Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Umesh ahead of Vijay. Pujara to open, Rohit coming in at no. 3.
StriKe Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 If Varun Aaron recovers - then we have the basic pool of: Fast - Umesh Yadav (erratic) and Varun Aaron (injury prone) Medium fast - Shami Medium - Ishwar Pandey Slow Medium - Bhuvi Same side goal - Ishant Sharma :hysterical: Yadav,Bhuvi,Bhuvi and Shami - Good peace attack for us !
Brainfade Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 If Varun Aaron recovers - then we have the basic pool of: Fast - Umesh Yadav (erratic) and Varun Aaron (injury prone) Medium fast - Shami Medium - Ishwar Pandey Slow Medium - Bhuvi Same side goal - Ishant Sharma Just pointing out the true size of the "if."
vishalvirsingh Posted November 8, 2013 Author Posted November 8, 2013 I agree Munaf bowled a few overs between 140 to 147K n was kinda Real fast but I believe he had turned into a under 135K bowler from second test itself Nobody can Decline that fast - debut bowling between 136 to 147 and then all balls below 135 Incredible DECLINE
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