FischerTal Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Temperament is very very vital. Brad Haddin proved it. But if you are going to be afraid of bouncer and afraid of coming forward and poking one to slip then no technique can save you because you don't move your feet because you are terrified to come forward. Problem is these guys are so used to scoring all the time on pattas that they dont measure their shots properly on wickets with some pace and bounce.
vvvslaxman Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Problem is these guys are so used to scoring all the time on pattas that they dont measure their shots properly on wickets with some pace and bounce. True.. even 1 inch of extra bounce can turn your usually authoritative pull shot into a miscued one. If you have the basics of getting on top of the ball instead of pulling the ball flush on the side, you should be good anywhere against any bounce. If you are used to pulling the ball with bat parallel to ball instead of on top of ball then you will have trouble on bouncier surface.
Sajid_Rana Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Cullinan is right. Kohli test record has been ordinary so far despite playing most matches on home pitches.
JourneyMan Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Cullinan made a good point when answering the question about Dhawan and Sharma and it doesn't only concern them but Indian batsmen in general. You should use each format to it's advantage, and in test cricket you really need to take the time to settle in and build big innings. Batting lineups really shouldnt be crumbling when batsmen have entire days of play ahead of them. One Sehwag on the team is affordable, but when the entire top order try and race their way through to big scores then you inevitably have collapses.
vvvslaxman Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Nothing like a paki delivering a sober assessment of Indian batsmen. They are yet to produce a batsman of Ashwin's class :cantstop:
Trundler27 Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Paki batsmen are mostly used to allow their bowlers some rest for 30-40 overs max before they get back on the field I agree with one of the earlier posts that technique is overrated for sure..... Most of the English batters have a decent technique and look at how they get destroyed innings after innings in the ongoing ashes
CG Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Paki batsmen are mostly used to allow their bowlers some rest for 30-40 overs max before they get back on the field I agree with one of the earlier posts that technique is overrated for sure..... Most of the English batters have a decent technique and look at how they get destroyed innings after innings in the ongoing ashes English batsman have premeditated trigger movements.Cook does not get forward much and just camps mostly on back foot ,K.p just is on the front foot for every ball,Trott gets too much across. All of these proved to be downfall against a good attack and 10 tests allows pop to study and target your weakness consistently.
Muloghonto Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Kohli weak against swing and entire team too' date='why he pointed only kohli. Only pujara will perform.[/quote'] Err read the post. The interviewer specifically asked him if he thought Kohli is the man for the job at #4, so Cullinan responded. As for Cullinan being Warne's bunny- yep, its true but how the heck does it negate what he is stating about playing fast bowlers off the backfoot in South Africa ?! As far as facing up to fast bowlers on tracks with seam and bounce go, Cullinan was miles ahead of anyone in this Indian team and probably only 3 Indians in the last 30 years even merit comparison to Cullinan in Saffie conditions- SunnyG, Sachin and Dravid! So i have tons of respect for what Cullinan says about facing fast bowlers in South Africa. Sort of how Sidhu was a strokeless plonker against any competent medium pacer, nevermind fast bowler but I have plenty of time for Sidhu when he talks about how to face spin bowlers as he was clearly one of the top 5 batsmen against spinners I've ever seen.
Precambrian Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Hahahahahhahaha cope that Warne bunny!!! Wanna see that face now...
Precambrian Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Cullinan is right. Kohli test record has been ordinary so far despite playing most matches on home pitches. Indeed
zep1706 Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Temperament is very very vital. Brad Haddin proved it. But if you are going to be afraid of bouncer and afraid of coming forward and poking one to slip then no technique can save you because you don't move your feet because you are terrified to come forward. I said slightly overrated. Of course you need to good technique to succeed in these conditions, case in point Raina or Yuvraj. But for a player like Kohli small glitches in technique can be overcome with good temperament which he has.
Sidhoni Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 What an answer! ****ing attention seeker Cullinan
Silva Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 He did praise pujara's technique last tour even though he didn't score runs. Also praised rahane in the last odi. I don't think He's biased kohli doesn't have the most text book technique. But as long as he keeps scoring centuries at the rate that he does i don't really care about his technique.
peterparker Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Err read the post. The interviewer specifically asked him if he thought Kohli is the man for the job at #4, so Cullinan responded. As for Cullinan being Warne's bunny- yep, its true but how the heck does it negate what he is stating about playing fast bowlers off the backfoot in South Africa ?! As far as facing up to fast bowlers on tracks with seam and bounce go, Cullinan was miles ahead of anyone in this Indian team and probably only 3 Indians in the last 30 years even merit comparison to Cullinan in Saffie conditions- SunnyG, Sachin and Dravid! So i have tons of respect for what Cullinan says about facing fast bowlers in South Africa. Sort of how Sidhu was a strokeless plonker against any competent medium pacer, nevermind fast bowler but I have plenty of time for Sidhu when he talks about how to face spin bowlers as he was clearly one of the top 5 batsmen against spinners I've ever seen. In this line up, the present one, I rate only two Indian batsman who are best - rohit sharma and chetshwar pujara, and rohit's technique is slightly better , especially the way he handles bounce, swaying out of line, even pujara struggles. But then, people in this forum don't watch cricket, they watch stats.
Old guy Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 In this line, the present one, I rate only two Indian batsman who are best - rohit sharma and chetshwar pujara, and rohit's technique is slightly better , especially the way he handles bounce, swaying out of line, even pujara struggles. But then, people in this forum don't watch cricket, they watch stats. You actually have no idea what technique is.. There is a reason others have better stats..
vvvslaxman Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 In this line up' date=' the present one, I rate only two Indian batsman who are best - rohit sharma and chetshwar pujara, and rohit's technique is slightly better , especially [b']the way he handles bounce, swaying out of line, even pujara struggles. But then, people in this forum don't watch cricket, they watch stats. The way he handles movement is still a f***ing joke. M Vijay played better in that regard. Rohit has lot of technical issues that need to be sorted out before even being labelled as technical wizard. Graeme Smith, Alistair cook are not exactly technical wizards. They have incredible reilience, temperament knowing which ball to leave, which ball to defend and attack. I don't see that in Rohit yet. Every now and then he plays an airy fairy shot.
peterparker Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 You actually have no idea what technique is.. There is a reason others have better stats.. ha ha ha, you have no idea on what technique is actually. If a batsman does not sway out of line of shot pitch delivery, then he will always struggle against pace and bounce, his feet will never move. That's why sachin and dravid were class apart, they were very good in their feet movement, not ganguly. And even in the stats, then, it is not flamboyant ganguly who leads, but people with technique, sachin and dravid. And on kohli making this century, he had several failures also, was given many chances, 21 tests. Raina was picked up ahead of rohit sharma, that's the biggest joke which can happen.
SLICKR392 Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 The way he handles movement is still a f***ing joke. M Vijay played better in that regard. Rohit has lot of technical issues that need to be sorted out before even being labelled as technical wizard. Graeme Smith' date= Alistair cook are not exactly technical wizards. They have incredible reilience, temperament knowing which ball to leave, which ball to defend and attack. I don't see that in Rohit yet. Every now and then he plays an airy fairy shot. Left the ball way better than Rohit and played the swing pretty nicely as well.
Old guy Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 ha ha ha, you have no idea on what technique is actually. If a batsman does not sway out of line of shot pitch delivery, then he will always struggle against pace and bounce, his feet will never move. That's why sachin and dravid were class apart, they were very good in their feet movement, not ganguly. And even in the stats, then, it is not flamboyant ganguly who leads, but people with technique, sachin and dravid. And on kohli making this century, he had several failures also, was given many chances, 21 tests. Raina was picked up ahead of rohit sharma, that's the biggest joke which can happen. Hana no Rohit did not get out to short ball so ur point is what exactly ? We are talking about technique against swing and u keep talking about short ball
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