maniac Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 I had to open this comparison as after today's innings a lot of newer fans might think of Gayle as a hack in the same league of his teammates like Smith,Pollard etc. A lot of newer fans might also know Gayle for his IPL and T20 exploits but I have always rated Chris Gayle the total batsman Test+ODI+T20 in the same league or maybe a notch below as Sehwag. Obviously in T20 Gayle emerges the clear winner and in Tests it is Sehwag but nothing much to seperate these two in ODI's. People may write off Gayle the test player but Gayle pre-IPL days scored in all countries,has 2 300'sand played some fantastic innings in Aus and S.A like his 100 from 70 odd balls in perth etc. Also Sehwag had a batting line up of SRT,R.D,VVS,Ganguly etc and a more stable opening partner in Gambhir where as Gayle was a one man opening show and had Lara and Chanderpaul. Bowling wise Indian bowling was better as a unit during Sehwag's success compared to the team Gayle had. So who is better?
adi B Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 tests: sehwag>>gayle odis: gayle>sehwag t20s: gayle>>sehwag maniac is correct,many will think gayle as a modern t20 hack but he avgs 42in tests iirc which is a healthy avg for an opener,avges 39 in odis with close to 20 tons and has 2 300+ scores in tests. gayle was a good batsman during 2004-2008 and contributed well for the windies along with lara,chander,sarwan
maniac Posted April 3, 2014 Author Posted April 3, 2014 tests: sehwag>>gayle odis: gayle>sehwag t20s: gayle>>sehwag maniac is correct,many will think gayle as a modern t20 hack but he avgs 42in tests iirc which is a healthy avg for an opener,avges 39 in odis with close to 20 tons and has 2 300+ scores in tests. gayle was a good batsman during 2004-2008 and contributed well for the windies along with lara,chander,sarwan Also he has played some terrific innings against Aus,S.A and England on their turf. He averages nearly 50 in Aus and S.A,2 best bowling attacks of the last decade.Sehwag averages in Aus are comparable but he has a very mediocre record in S.A in Eng both have been mediocre but Gayle has done much better than Viru. in Nzl Gayle has an average way above Sehwag. Gayle has a mediocre-average record in S.C averages in the 30's where as Sehwag has some beastly averages against Pak and SL
maniac Posted April 3, 2014 Author Posted April 3, 2014 One thing where Sehwag trumps Gayle is S/R....Sehwag has an 80+ S/R after 104 tests which is unheard of where as Gayle is not the same kind of crazy hitter he is in LOI's....he has a more modest S/R of nearly 60 which is still superb but 80 in tests is something else.
Gollum Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Sehwag was, is and will continue to be better than Predator.
Austin 3:!6 Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Sehwag was' date=' is and will continue to be better than Predator.[/quote'] This. Cant believe people comparing a legeng like Viru with this Chinnaswamy hack :facepalm:
maniac Posted April 3, 2014 Author Posted April 3, 2014 This. Cant believe people comparing a legeng like Viru with this Chinnaswamy hack :facepalm: Did you even read the entire OP :facepalm:
vvvslaxman Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Sehwag never allows to be bullied. He doesn't target just weak bowlers. Sometimes he goes berserk after the premiere bowler of opposition. Akhtar, Saqlain, Murali, Steyn.
maniac Posted April 3, 2014 Author Posted April 3, 2014 Sehwag never allows to be bullied. He doesn't target just weak bowlers. Sometimes he goes berserk after the premiere bowler of opposition. Akhtar' date=' Saqlain, Murali, Steyn.[/quote'] Yeah but the Myth that Gayle only plays % cricket by going after weaker bowlers is due to his IPL heroics......He has done incredibly well as an opener in AUS and S.A so that could not have been possible could it? As I said he has done better or the same as Sehwag in Aus,S.A,Eng and Nzl and I atleast remember 2 of his classy and attacking overseas innings.
Mahaa Raavana Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Sehwag was' date= is and will continue to be better than Predator. :hysterical: shewack was,is and will be a brainless ftb hack...Afridi is better than the cry-baby on any day :giggle:
vvvslaxman Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Yeah but the Myth that Gayle only plays % cricket by going after weaker bowlers is due to his IPL heroics......He has done incredibly well as an opener in AUS and S.A so that could not have been possible could it? As I said he has done better or the same as Sehwag in Aus,S.A,Eng and Nzl and I atleast remember 2 of his classy and attacking overseas innings. Against spin he is very poor compared to Viru. Viru plays a high risk game. He lives and dies by the sword. Gayle is more a percentage cricketer. Against pace bowler he is much more at ease. He uses his height well to negate bouncier wickets. But he can't dominate like Viru dominates
maniac Posted April 3, 2014 Author Posted April 3, 2014 Against spin he is very poor compared to Viru. Viru plays a high risk game. He lives and dies by the sword. Gayle is more a percentage cricketer. Against pace bowler he is much more at ease. He uses his height well to negate bouncier wickets. But he can't dominate like Viru dominates He has an incredible S/R and a terrific average,so I wnt jump on the padosi bandwagon and call him flattrack Bully but as per stats he has absolutely dominated our padosis on both sides ,but Gayle has done better than him everywhere elseat a pretty reasonable test S/R of 60. Gayle has failed to step up in S.C against all 3 teams despite him having a 300 in SL.
South_Paw Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 :hysterical: shewack was' date='is and will be a brainless ftb hack...Afridi is better than the cry-baby on any day :giggle:[/quote'] Thanks for once again proving all of u lunguns are retards.
vvvslaxman Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 :hysterical: shewack was' date='is and will be a brainless ftb hack...Afridi is better than the cry-baby on any day :giggle:[/quote'] Still but hurt over Viru's 284 in 2.5 sessions against your chuckers :hysterical:
Sachin=GOD Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Sehwag, at his peak, was the better batsman while Gayle was the more destructive batsman. Tests - Sehwag>Gayle ODIs - Gayle>Sehwag
South_Paw Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 If there is one fearless player, then it is Sehwag. People like Gayle simply click in one out of 5 matches that too by targeting weaker bowlers. Don't even have to mention about lunatics like Afridi who chop wood irrespective of format, situation, bowler and condition. Sehwag, when he was in prime, went over all the bowlers with class. This doesn't mean sehwag is a world class legend or Gayle is a bad player. This is just to state that, out of all the attacking batsmen of last decade Sehwag is the best when considered all formats together.
maniac Posted April 3, 2014 Author Posted April 3, 2014 If there is one fearless player' date=' then it is Sehwag. [b']People like Gayle simply click in one out of 5 matches that too by targeting weaker bowlers. Don't even have to mention about lunatics like Afridi who chop wood irrespective of format, situation, bowler and condition. Sehwag, when he was in prime, went over all the bowlers with class. This doesn't mean sehwag is a world class legend or Gayle is a bad player. This is just to state that, out of all the attacking batsmen of last decade Sehwag is the best when considered all formats together. That again is a myth of too much IPL,No one can average in the 50's especially in Aus and S.A by doing that....% cricket works in LOIs but not in tests and doesn't work at all especially if you are an opener.
vvvslaxman Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 That again is a myth of too much IPL' date='No one can average in the 50's especially in Aus and S.A by doing that....% cricket works in LOIs but not in tests and doesn't work at all especially if you are an opener.[/quote'] One reason he does well in OZ is because Australia never had great spinners. Essentially Australian bowling is the favorite bowling of his. Not out and out swing bowlers either. COnditions also do not allow such kind of swing.
SLICKR392 Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Gayle's downfall as a batsman began during that period when he was constantly ignored by the selectors after the issue over that comments he made on a radio program. Was never very consistent and neither did he pose the sort of threat like Viru did against the opposition bowlers. Don't be fooled by his T20 records. He wasn't half as dominate in ODI, as he is in T20s. Good, but not dominant. But as mentioed in the OP, Gayle has scored runs against better sides at higher average. Also, he isn't all that great against a team which has got a good spin attack. Likes the pace on the bat. Its a no brainer in Test cricket. Overall Sehwag easily edges him but agree with Maniac, Gayle was miles better than what he is now. Honestly, he has become a joke by playing in almost all the leagues around the globe, looks uncertain in Test cricket. Hasn't played a lot of ODIs since his return. As a spectator I don't really fear him now when he is up against India, nevermind the format, i.e. T20 included. In the past 2-3 years, Gayle, while playing for Windies has rarely looked unstoppable. You can contain him quiet effortlessly. Probably their best bat (in all formats) since Lara's departure.
SLICKR392 Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 One reason he does well in OZ is because Australia never had great spinners. Essentially Australian bowling is the favorite bowling of his. Not out and out swing bowlers either. COnditions also do not allow such kind of swing. +1
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