CG Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 PK did well in England last time.No reason why BK' date='whos a better bowler cant do well too[/quote'] P.k and b.k are too different types of bowlers,just because both bowl at similar speeds do not make them similar.I had high expectations of b.k in sa ,he really was ordinary in odis,never looked like picking a wicket and he has lost his wicket taking ability.
Cricket_Hacker Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 Bhuvan has to be our 3rd seamer..... Would go in with Bhuvi,Ishant/Shami and Yadav with Ashwin being the allrounder........Has better technique than Jadeja for sure. Can't beleive people want to drop Ishant.....check who is the highest wicket taker in Newzealand and check his last 4 test performance....give the guy a break. Yes he has had mediocre time in ODI's but has improved his test bowling you conveniently missed out the 0/164 in new zealand bowling 129 kmph thunderbolts
velu Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 Can't beleive people want to drop Ishant.....check who is the highest wicket taker in Newzealand and check his last 4 test performance....give the guy a break. Yes he has had mediocre time in ODI's but has improved his test bowling whatever you are smoking , patent it immediately :--D
maniac Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 you conveniently missed out the 0/164 in new zealand bowling 129 kmph thunderbolts So you conviniently forgot the 3 innings he bowled before that? Yes he was bad in that innings but so was everyone else.......A guy just hit a 300 so why only one person to blame...everyone sucked in that innings including a guy who picked up a fifer. He was the best bowler in Newzaland....Yes SHami was good in patches too but the love he gets here overshadows everything else,while as Ishant's one bad performance on that tour nullifies all his efforts before that? Not fair.
maniac Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 whatever you are smoking ' date=' patent it immediately :--D[/quote'] Did you even watch the test series? Again you think SRT is mediocre,so what can I say to convince you :banghead:
gattaca Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 So you conviniently forgot the 3 innings he bowled before that? Yes he was bad in that innings but so was everyone else.......A guy just hit a 300 so why only one person to blame...everyone sucked in that innings including a guy who picked up a fifer. He was the best bowler in Newzaland....Yes SHami was good in patches too but the love he gets here overshadows everything else,while as Ishant's one bad performance on that tour nullifies all his efforts before that? Not fair. Ishant is consistently bad whereas shami is good and bad few times. if you see SA stats , Australia Tour stats you will know.
velu Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 Did you even watch the test series? Again you think SRT is mediocre,so what can I say to convince you :banghead: five wickets against a tier 2 test team :hysterical::hysterical: what he learned in saffalanad ?? what he did when baz scored a triple ??
maniac Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 Ishant 15 wickets @25(that too due to one bad innings) S/R 42 2nd best was Southee with 11@23 with S/R 42.00 Shami 10 wickets @35.00,S/R 59.00 Zak 9 wickets @42.00,S.R 71.00 Hope that puts things in perspective
velu Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 averaging 40 in 50 matches .. enough said :cantstop:
maniac Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 averaging 40 in 50 matches .. enough said :cantstop: 37 :poink: Getting his average down slowly but surely
velu Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 37 :poink: Getting his average down slowly but surely 37.57 can you change ur siggy "No more trolling" :giggle: IPL season is not far
maniac Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 37.57 can you change ur siggy "No more trolling" :giggle: IPL season is not far I have been critical of Ishant when he deserved it but when he was our best bowler he deserves acclaim....dropping him when he did well in the last series is stupid.....place in the XI debatable but has to be as a backup
SLICKR392 Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 Ishant 15 wickets @25(that too due to one bad innings) S/R 42 2nd best was Southee with 11@23 with S/R 42.00 Shami 10 wickets @35.00,S/R 59.00 Zak 9 wickets @42.00,S.R 71.00 Hope that puts things in perspective And did Ishant win us anything with these figures? He went for 150 in the last innings for no 0 wicket. That's how bad he is. He hasn't been able to win us any game but has always managed to put us in the losing side. Was a joke in the 0-8 debacle. End of they day, you yourself admitted he sucks. :--D
SLICKR392 Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 P.k and b.k are too different types of bowlers' date='just because both bowl at similar speeds do not make them similar.I had high expectations of b.k in sa ,he really was ordinary in odis,never looked like picking a wicket and he has lost his wicket taking ability.[/quote'] Test is a different format. And the conditions in NZ would have suited him but was never given a chance. And BK bowls much quicker than PK nowadays. He is yet to bowl a delivery in overseas Test matches. We have absolutely nothing to judge him on in these pitches.
maniac Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 And did Ishant win us anything with these figures? He went for 150 in the last innings for no 0 wicket. That's how bad he is. He hasn't been able to win us any game but has always managed to put us in the losing side. Was a joke in the 0-8 debacle. End of they day, you yourself admitted he sucks. :--D So did Shami,Jaddu and Zak....atleast he gave us a shot in both 1st and 2nd test.....cricket is a team game last time I checked. As I said....getting dropped after being the best bowler on either sides sets a bad precedent.....Indian cricket is very disciplined
SLICKR392 Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 So did Shami,Jaddu and Zak....atleast he gave us a shot in both 1st and 2nd test.....cricket is a team game last time I checked. As I said....getting dropped after being the best bowler on either sides sets a bad precedent.....Indian cricket is very disciplined Shami deserves a long run. He's played only 6 games so far and he doesn't have an average of a decent middle order Test batsman like Ishant does. Zaheer should hang his boots, everyone agrees with that but having a trundler like Ishant in the side is only going to hurt us more in the future. Its a team game and we have to look forward as well. A good trio of Shami, Yadav, Bhuvi/Pandey/Pankaj will only benefit us in the future rather than having a temp bowling like Ishant. He reveled his consistency in both series; SA & NZ. After picking 6 wickets he goes on to get whacked for a 150 runs without any wicket.
Lord Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 P.k and b.k are too different types of bowlers' date='just because both bowl at similar speeds do not make them similar.I had high expectations of b.k in sa ,he really was ordinary in odis,never looked like picking a wicket and he has lost his wicket taking ability.[/quote'] he played a grand total of one ODI there dude.You guys talk about mismanagement of Yadav n Aaron bt quick to pounce on Bhuvi. was decent in NZ too
SLICKR392 Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 he played a grand total of one ODI there dude.You guys talk about mismanagement of Yadav n Aaron bt quick to pounce on Bhuvi. was decent in NZ too Bhuvi and Shami got us wicket early on as well. Our problem in NZ was during the middle overs and he bowled really well in the death overs there.
CG Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 Test is a different format. And the conditions in NZ would have suited him but was never given a chance. And BK bowls much quicker than PK nowadays. He is yet to bowl a delivery in overseas Test matches. We have absolutely nothing to judge him on in these pitches. Its not about pace,P.k used to swing the ball out of the hand ,he was a classical swing bowler with great control over both swings.B.k basically bowls too short and main weapon is the inswinger which seams also.
CG Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 he played a grand total of one ODI there dude.You guys talk about mismanagement of Yadav n Aaron bt quick to pounce on Bhuvi. was decent in NZ too He has played every odi after sa and he has been ordinary.His average is up to 38.He bowls to contain runs now.
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