sachinrox Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 There's some news going around that the exit poll agency used by Times Now was fake - I guess that accounts for the discrepancy in their statewise numbers in many states. The seats they gave to the BJP in MP and Rajasthan are definitely questionable especially after a strong support of the masses in the assembly elections not too long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Mr Kejriwal is the right person to lead AAP' date=' the votes have chipped in only because of him. Vishwas doesn't have the presence amongst the crowds. Having said that, Mr Kejriwal needs to understand that he must change his tactics and be symbol of an "Aam Aadmi" portray himself as someone who is here to do something and not just to cry and crib. As long as he keeps the personal attacks in his pants, he is fine.[/quote'] Kejriwal is made by media. Once Anna Hazare bowed out of this camp, media needed someone to be made a hero to get TRPs and that person was Kejriwal. Aajtak used to have special shows for Kejriwal, to show his life, and how he revolutionized Indian politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 There's some news going around that the exit poll agency used by Times Now was fake - I guess that accounts for the discrepancy in their statewise numbers in many states. Rahul Kanwal @rahulkanwal 2h Owners of ORG trademark shoot off complaint alleging bogus firm misused their trademark to generate an unauthorised Exit Poll for TV channel TimesNow used ORG..:hysterical: Arnab has played a big con Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 not sure about owned by Ambani. Check TV18 ownership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 not sure about owned by Ambani. it is. Anyway most national media groups have received HUGE amounts from BJP in the last one year to give maximum (and positive) coverage to Modi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 it is. Anyway most national media groups have received HUGE amounts from BJP in the last one year to give maximum (and positive) coverage to Modi. Even Aaj tak has been acquired by CNN-IBN. Only yesterday, I saw Aaj tak anchor calling CNN-IBN their cooperative TV channel (sahyogi TV channel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 In 2008, Reliance Industries (RIL) Chairman Mukesh Ambani bailed out Ramoji Rao of Eenadu, a Hyderabad headquartered media house. In 2010, a conversation between corporate lobbyist Niira Radia and a journalist, taped by income tax investigators, alluded to RIL wanting to support NDTV. And now, in 2012, Ambani is lending a tidy sum to Raghav Bahl, promoter of the Network18 Group. Clearly, Ambani is the go-to man for media moguls in distress. On January 3, Ambani and Bahl confounded all and sundry when they announced an optionally convertible debentures (OCDs) deal that is widely seen as a lifebuoy for the debt-laden Network18 Group. The deal, structured between an RIL trust and unlisted companies of the Network18 Group, stood out for its opacity even if it did not contravene any rules. RIL's press release stated that the deal would give the group's broadband subsidiary, Reliance Infotel, preferential access to Network18's content for its 4G mobile data services platform. In reality, however, it could give Ambani control over 17 news channels in the English, regional and business genres, including CNN-IBN, CNBC TV18 and IBN 7. Nowhere in the press statements was it mentioned how much RIL would lend but the money that Bahl and promoters of Network18 need for a proposed rights issue of two listed firms is Rs 1,700 crore. Under the terms of the multi-layered deal, Independent Media Trust, set up by RIL, will subscribe to OCDs being issued by the unlisted promoter companies of Network18 Media & Investment and TV18 Broadcast. Network18 and TV18 are coming up with rights issues of Rs 2,700 crore each and the promoter companies will invest in them using the money they receive from the RIL trust. Given that Network18 is the majority owner of TV18, the net amount raised will be about Rs 4,000 crore. The two Bahl companies will use this money to reduce their combined debt - Rs 2,116 crore as of September 30, 2011 - and partially buy RIL's holding in Rao's television channels, grouped under Ushodaya Enterprises, for Rs 2,100 crore (see RIL: Big Brother) giving the Ambani company a solid return on its investment. NO ANSWERS YET What is the nature of the optionally convertible debentures in the deal between RIL and Network18? What is the coupon rate of interest on the OCDs? If RIL’s Independent Media Trust decides to convert the OCDs, what will its stake size be? Bahl has the option to buy out the remainder of RIL's holding - 50 per cent in the non-Telugu entertainment channels and 24.5 per cent in the Telugu news and entertainment channels at a later stage. But, a senior media source close to Bahl indicates that it has probably been left for Viacom Inc. to pick in an all-cash deal. Viacom is a 50 per cent partner in Viacom18, a Network18 company. "It's complicated," says Kalpesh Makwana, Deputy Vice President, Metals, Mining and Media, Quant Global Research. "There are several unanswered questions. But, the two main questions are over the structure of the debentures and the final ownership (of Network18) by RIL, post-conversion of the OCDs." In other words, will RIL gain control over Network18 if it exercises its option of converting its debentures into equity? A Network18 press statement was cryptic over ownership. Bahl, it said, "shall continue to retain management and 51% control over Network18 and 51% control over TV18 through Network18". It also isn't clear when the option for RIL to convert will come up. BT has been in touch with both RIL and Network18 spokespersons over the telephone and email. Neither side had responded at the time of this issue going to press. Rao, founder of the Telugu daily Eenadu, also owns the ETV network of channels. As with Bahl now, Ambani had bailed him out of a financial pickle in 2008. His chit fund company, Margadarsi, which was said to have collected Rs 2,600 crore from the public, was accused of delaying repayment to several depositors. The matter went to the Andhra Pradesh High Court and Rao had to assure it that he would repay the amount. He cracked a deal with Blackstone, the world's largest private equity firm, but it failed to pass regulatory muster. Soon after, Ambani stepped in to the rescue. Some details of that bailout emerged two years after Andhra Pradesh chief minister Y.S.R. Reddy's death when his widow Y.S. Vijayalakshmi filed a petition in the state's High Court in October 2011. She was seeking a probe into the assets of former chief minister N. Chandrababu Naidu, who counts Rao as one his most influential supporters. Among other things, the petition alleged that Ambani bailed Rao out through two companies, Equator Trading and Anu Trading, controlled by Nimesh Kampani and Vinay Chajlani, respectively. The companies, it added, invested Rs 2,600 crore in the loss-making Ushodaya Enterprises, which runs Eenadu TV, in 2008. The premium paid on the shares amounted to a whopping 528,630 per cent. Ushodaya recorded a net loss of Rs 56.6 crore in 2007/08, according to an ICRA Ratings report released in March 2011. RIL's January 3 press release put out details of its shareholding in Rao empire for the first time. Both the Network18 and Ushodaya deals raise many questions: what was the rationale for the valuation of the Ushodaya deal? Does it make sense for the RIL shareholder? Why didn't RIL disclose the investment earlier? Are the minority shareholders of TV18 being treated fairly, considering that their holding will get diluted if they do not subscribe to the rights issue? Bahl refused to lift the cloak of secrecy on an analyst call on January 3 but when the call ended, many concluded he had sold out to Ambani. "TV18 has paid aggressively for the ETV channels," says Ritwik Rai, media analyst at Kotak Securities. In a report on the deal, he notes that TV18 has acquired only 50 per cent of the non-Telugu entertainment channels, and only 24.5 per cent of the Telugu channels - which make significant revenues for ETV. "…TV18 has likely overpaid by Rs 1,260 crore - significant considering its market capitalisation," says Rai. Few doubt that but for more clarity investors will have to wait for Ambani to exercise his option on the RIL trust debentures. http://businesstoday.intoday.in/story/ril-network18-deal-conversion/1/21776.html Here I got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Even Aaj tak has been bought by CNN-IBN. Only yesterday' date=' [b']I saw Aaj tak anchor calling CNN-IBN their cooperative TV channel (sahyogi TV channel). Don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Don't think so. Only yesterday, I read somewhere that India Today group magazine is acquired by someone, cannot remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Mr Kejriwal is the right person to lead AAP' date=' the votes have chipped in only because of him. Vishwas doesn't have the presence amongst the crowds. Having said that, Mr Kejriwal needs to understand that he must change his tactics and be symbol of an "Aam Aadmi" portray himself as someone who is here to do something and not just to cry and crib. As long as he keeps the personal attacks in his pants, he is fine.[/quote'] IMO he is not the right person to lead AAP. Many people have been saying for a long time that he doesn't listen to anyone expect 2-3 people (Sisodia, Gopal Rai, Yogendra Yadav etc), is not willing to accept that he is wrong, he is still in the "protester" mode. Another big problem is that his attitude is now exactly the same as that of leaders of other parties - as long as his party's workers are praising him, they are honest, good workers but that moment they question him (has happened in case of many former AAP members who left the party), they are said to have been looking for tickets or they are agents of other parties etc. He is always ready to blame other parties for mistakes made by their leaders but when Somnath Bharti went on his night raids, Kejriwal supported him and till date no action has been taken. And then of course there are the many u-turns... When the party began there was only one target - Delhi Cong led by Sheila Dixit. For months and months they went all around Delhi shouting how it was the most corrupt Govt. in the country. When results came out they accepted support from Cong, formed the Govt. and then ran away in 49 days and then suddenly when AAP saw that BJP led by Modi was set to become the biggest party, the target changed to BJP and Modi. In the last few weeks there has been almost no mention of Cong from Kejriwal's mouth. Ab sirf Modi/BJP dikh rahe hain - ths is plain and simple opportunism. Nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Leaving Delhi and participating in national elections was the worst decision by AAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 There's some news going around that the exit poll agency used by Times Now was fake - I guess that accounts for the discrepancy in their statewise numbers in many states. no wonder. LOL those Rajasthan and Assam predictions especially were a joke. :cantstop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sachinrox Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 no wonder. LOL those Rajasthan and Assam predictions especially were a joke. :cantstop: And MP too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Such a long election, people who voted in early April must be feeling they must have voted in an earlier election! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precambrian Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 AK played into BJP's hands. Wherever there was a semblance of Anti-Modi votes polarizing, these guys went, chillaya and split it up. So as a BJP supporter, I am not complaining. Just irked at some AAP supporters now blaming Indian citizens for their miserable showing :cantstop: Your electorate doesn't want you, so whom are you working for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 AK played into BJP's hands. Wherever there was a semblance of Anti-Modi votes polarizing, these guys went, chillaya and split it up. So as a BJP supporter, I am not complaining. Just irked at some AAP supporters now blaming Indian citizens for their miserable showing :cantstop: Your electorate doesn't want you, so whom are you working for? Lol,link plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precambrian Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Lol' date='link plz[/quote'] Sample this sour grapes all the way. :phehehe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Chanakya Exit poll gives 70 (+/- 9) to the BJP in UP. So if its '+' , it is 79 out of 80. Wonder who will get the other 1 seat Dumbo, that 70 is the max, so 63-70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Dumbo' date= that 70 is the max, so 63-70. :cantstop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Dumbo' date=' that 70 is the max, so 63-70.[/quote'] :cantstop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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