Ricky Ponting says he played two years too much

[Scarves]

Yes' date=' Ponting averaged around 40ish after 2007.[/quote'] He averaged just under 60 odd after the 2006/07 Ashes. He was around 58 in the 08 Indian series. When he was less than 55 it was 2010 Federer still plays because he can, he loves the sport so much so that he wants to keep on playing and rightly so. But Tennis isn't a team sport and that's where you can see the differences in a team makeup compared to a individual sport. I don't believe in the notion of retiring at the top. You should retire if you aren't mentally 100% in or you are injured so much so that you can't press on.

[kaptaan]

sanath was never all that flash in tests to begin with.

ofcourse !! but his last 3 years avg is no where near his career avg

[kaptaan]

Tendulkar clearly wanted that 100th ton, and that cost indian team big time, as he was the one of worst no 4s in world cricket after world cup. Unlike punter who showed up in crunch matches and tendulkar even on good days rarely showed up especially in overseas tests.

Ponting never averaged 50+ during his last 6 years of test career

[rkt.india]

He wasn't even near his best but he certainly wasn't a pushover like most of the other batsmen. He had his moments in both the series which he couldn't capitalize. He became a liability in the NZ and England tours at home. And he retired 2 series after that didn't he?

Overall, his average in tests was in low 30s after 2011 that is what the point was.

[vamos_rafa]

He averaged just under 60 odd after the 2006/07 Ashes. He was around 58 in the 08 Indian series. When he was less than 55 it was 2010 Federer still plays because he can, he loves the sport so much so that he wants to keep on playing and rightly so. But Tennis isn't a team sport and that's where you can see the differences in a team makeup compared to a individual sport. I don't believe in the notion of retiring at the top. You should retire if you aren't mentally 100% in or you are injured so much so that you can't press on.

Then what makes you think that these guys weren't 100% mentally? That's what I am trying to say. These guys weren't injured and they were still ready to give one last shot. And they retired when they finally lost the will.

[vamos_rafa]

Overall' date=' his average in tests was in low 30s after 2011 that is what the point was.[/quote'] I agree. But, that was more so coz of the series against NZ and England at home where he couldn't put bat to ball.

[rkt.india]

He averaged just under 60 odd after the 2006/07 Ashes. He was around 58 in the 08 Indian series. When he was less than 55 it was 2010

Ponting averages 38 in his last 43 tests. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/7133.html?class=1;spanmin1=08+Dec+2008;spanval1=span;template=results;type=allround;view=match

[rkt.india]

I agree. But' date=' that was more so coz of the series against NZ and England at home where he couldn't put bat to ball.[/quote'] He averaged around 35 on England and Aus tour too. I didn't say he hanged on for longer. It was his right to play because he was batting well before that and he took less time O2 years) than Ponting or Dravid who both averaged around 40 in their last 4 years of test cricket.

[Lord]

second best batsman does not mean much when you average 35.

That also doesnt mean you are hurting your team mainly or solely when there are 4 batsmen doing worse

[rkt.india]

That also doesnt mean you are hurting your team mainly or solely when there are 4 batsmen doing worse

all four were hurting.

[zep1706]

Ponting definitely dragged his career, not 2 years but a few more than that. He was not the same player after 2007-08. For Tendulkar, in hindsight yes he should have retired after the 2011 world cup but he was in supreme form back then, so the question of retirement wasn't even there. He couldn't handle the media hype about his 100th ton. I think he should have retired maybe a year earlier in one of those home series, either against England or Australia.

[nevada]

Ponvict was fit and he was still sharp in fielding so he kept deluding himself that he is just 1-2 good knocks away from rediscovering his form. At one point he looked like he would easily overtake Sachin's records but as the years went by the distance between the two grew larger. The aussie selectors gave him a long leash to gove him a chance to break the record but he just coulnd not get the job done. He is a one trick pony who did well when he had champion players to back him up but laid an egg when he had to carry a weak team.

[Sidhoni]

He was our 2nd best batsman in both Eng and Aus,how did he hurt us big time? also if he stayed only for 100th ton,why did he stay after getting it?:hmmm:

He did leave ODIs after that.

[vamos_rafa]

Ponting definitely dragged his career' date=' not 2 years but a few more than that. He was not the same player after 2007-08. For Tendulkar, in hindsight yes he should have retired after the 2011 world cup but he was in supreme form back then, so the question of retirement wasn't even there. He couldn't handle the media hype about his 100th ton. I think he should have retired maybe a year earlier in one of those home series, either against England or Australia.[/quote'] After the Oz series with the 200th Test in sight, there was no question of him retiring.

[Vilander]

Tendulkar's 100th 100 was the one that spoiled his average from 56 to 53.. it was really unnecessary.. from great he became good test bat in terms of stats.

[Lord]

He did leave ODIs after that.

100th ton was a collective record.he still stayed in Tests

[Temujin Khaghan]

The chase for 100th ton revealed that no one had any respect for all the match winning 90s scored by Sachin. The 98 at centurion park versus Pakistan is the second best ODI knock for Sachin after the Desert Storm 144. Sachin was pressurized by the media. he was a decent man and he absorbed everything. Every moron in India including room service and BCCI idiots would keep pestering him about when the knock was coming. he would just smile and move on. if it was kohli, he would have said smthg back in sanskrit which would have verbally disemboweled the moron for the rest of his life. after the 100th 100, sachin was not at all feeling bad about the defeat to bangladesh. he was like " this was what you wanted you morons, now eat it". It was a the most bitter century of them all.

[vamos_rafa]

The chase for 100th ton revealed that no one had any respect for all the match winning 90s scored by Sachin. The 98 at centurion park versus Pakistan is the second best ODI knock for Sachin after the Desert Storm 144. Sachin was pressurized by the media. he was a decent man and he absorbed everything. Every moron in India including room service and BCCI idiots would keep pestering him about when the knock was coming. he would just smile and move on. if it was kohli, he would have said smthg back in sanskrit which would have verbally disemboweled the moron for the rest of his life. after the 100th 100, sachin was not at all feeling bad about the defeat to bangladesh. he was like " this was what you wanted you morons, now eat it". It was a the most bitter century of them all.

:two_thumbs_up: That's an awesome way of looking at it bro

[CSK Fan]

Tendulkar clearly wanted that 100th ton, and that cost indian team big time, as he was the one of worst no 4s in world cricket after world cup. Unlike punter who showed up in crunch matches and tendulkar even on good days rarely showed up especially in overseas tests.

How did it cost India big time and which matches we would have won if he was not there? This crunch matches thing is the biggest pile of nonsense posted usually by complete trolls and I thought you were better than it People like to simply discard the fact that Tendulkar and Dravid lingering led a long way to groom players like Kohli and Pujara and even Rohit. We are so used to take our wonderful batting assembly for granted that we do not stop for a moment to consider how much behind the scenes actions go to make them transition smoothly from domestic to internationals. Take a look at how even the most skillful of our bowlers fall away because of lack of mentoring and guidance. Pujara and Kohli are on record accepting the contribution of players like Sachin in their development and how they learned by being with them on the pitch If we had lost Sachin too just after Dravid and Laxman, there was a good chance these youngsters might have lost their way. Just wait and watch for a few more years

[Sidhoni]

100th ton was a collective record.he still stayed in Tests

He waited for his best chance to get that 100 which was against Bangladesh on the flattest of tracks. He would've never scored a century with that form in tests in South Africa or even against Aussies at home.