Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[MediumPacer]

no speedometers

[MediumPacer]

54 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

And Kuggeleijn and Tickner are not good enough regardless of their pace. Considering all are fully fit, they can't play ahead of an attack of Boult, Jamieson, and Ferguson. Kuggeleijn especially averages 30 and 32 in domestic formats. 

Tickner around 35 in both.  Milne can be a decent back up option for Lockie but that's about it.

they have a couple of youngsters but i cant recall their names.

[MediumPacer]

slow pitch,slow bowling, slow batting,very boring

[rkt.india]

https://youtu.be/PH6q3etT4GM

 

 

Ben Sears is fast

[Nikhil_cric]

1 hour ago, MediumPacer said:

he is like siraj

I don't see the similarity here to be honest.

[Lone Wolf]

Hmmm....  Yeah this is good stuff.  Naseem should stay away from T20s & stick to ODIs & Tests. 

 

 

[Axl100mph]

Presently one of the best in the world if not the best when there is reverse on offer because he moves it both ways unlike many and has that skiddy trajectory which is always threatening the stumps. 

 

The middle phase skills though are lacking. Needs to develop the wobble seam or the 3 quarter seam to be more effective then and further improve his bouncer which has come up this series but was almost non existent before. 

Because there has been less emphasis on test cricket ever since his debut, his attacking skills didnt develop at the same speed as his defensive skills which I feel are the most rounded when it comes to any all format pacer playing right now. 

 

There is a reason Tait was waxing lyrical about him and not Shaheen in every interview or exchange of his. 

[Axl100mph]

49 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Hmmm....  Yeah this is good stuff.  Naseem should stay away from T20s & stick to ODIs & Tests. 

 

 

Presently one of the best in the world if not the best when there is reverse on offer because he moves it both ways unlike many and has that skiddy trajectory which is always threatening the stumps. 

 

 

 

The middle phase skills though are lacking. Needs to develop the wobble seam or the 3 quarter seam to be more effective then and further improve his bouncer which has come up this series but was almost non existent before. 

 

Because there has been less emphasis on test cricket ever since his debut, his attacking skills didnt develop at the same speed as his defensive skills which I feel are the most rounded when it comes to any all format pacer playing right now. 

 

 

 

There is a reason Tait was waxing lyrical about him and not Shaheen in every interview or exchange of his

Edited July 28, 2023 by Axl100mph

[Lone Wolf]

4 minutes ago, Axl100mph said:

Presently one of the best in the world if not the best when there is reverse on offer because he moves it both ways unlike many and has that skiddy trajectory which is always threatening the stumps. 

 

 

 

The middle phase skills though are lacking. Needs to develop the wobble seam or the 3 quarter seam to be more effective then and further improve his bouncer which has come up this series but was almost non existent before. 

 

Because there has been less emphasis on test cricket ever since his debut, his attacking skills didnt develop at the same speed as his defensive skills which I feel are the most rounded when it comes to any all format pacer playing right now. 

 

 

 

There is a reason Tait was waxing lyrical about him and not Shaheen in every interview or exchange of his

Such bowlers (skiddy)  could be under fire in Australia as they don't generate much bounce.  So it will be interesting how he copes up with that.  Needs a mean short ball as well...  as he has good pace. 

He was quite green last time he went to Australia & was bashed around.  

 

He may find success in SA though.  Lateral movement is always there...  And has got that outswing naturally. 

[Gollum]

21 minutes ago, Axl100mph said:

Presently one of the best in the world if not the best when there is reverse on offer because he moves it both ways unlike many and has that skiddy trajectory which is always threatening the stumps. 

 

 

 

The middle phase skills though are lacking. Needs to develop the wobble seam or the 3 quarter seam to be more effective then and further improve his bouncer which has come up this series but was almost non existent before. 

 

Because there has been less emphasis on test cricket ever since his debut, his attacking skills didnt develop at the same speed as his defensive skills which I feel are the most rounded when it comes to any all format pacer playing right now. 

 

 

 

There is a reason Tait was waxing lyrical about him and not Shaheen in every interview or exchange of his

Aus will be the ultimate test. Short, skiddy bowlers rarely do well there. 

[Suhaan]

4 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Something is wrong...it shows Sandeep Sharma gave 8 runs in 10 overs on cricinfo. In reality he was smashed for 89 runs 

Trundler ecosystem supports trundlers

[wazza]

54 minutes ago, Axl100mph said:

Presently one of the best in the world if not the best when there is reverse on offer because he moves it both ways unlike many and has that skiddy trajectory which is always threatening the stumps. 

 

The middle phase skills though are lacking. Needs to develop the wobble seam or the 3 quarter seam to be more effective then and further improve his bouncer which has come up this series but was almost non existent before. 

Because there has been less emphasis on test cricket ever since his debut, his attacking skills didnt develop at the same speed as his defensive skills which I feel are the most rounded when it comes to any all format pacer playing right now. 

 

There is a reason Tait was waxing lyrical about him and not Shaheen in every interview or exchange of his. 

Please stop. Shaheen is the best from Pakistan. Naseem will never r2ach his level. Impossible. He doesn't have the natural bounce and variations of shaheen although shah3en himself isn't bouncy but he is much more skilful. 

 

Tyagi has more potential than naseem ever will have. You just need some moron in bcci yo play him more often but we have trundler quotas so another talented wasted. 

[wazza]

49 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Such bowlers (skiddy)  could be under fire in Australia as they don't generate much bounce.  So it will be interesting how he copes up with that.  Needs a mean short ball as well...  as he has good pace. 

He was quite green last time he went to Australia & was bashed around.  

 

He may find success in SA though.  Lateral movement is always there...  And has got that outswing naturally. 

He can't cope for crap . He will get blown away. Mark these words. 

He will get exposed badly. 

 

He will only suit u.a.e and dustbowl pitches that are abrasive in Asia. 

[wazza]

Mukesh kumar

Undakutha

Sakaria 

Leftie swinger for nets forget his name

Siddarth kaul

Sandeep sharma

Ishan porel

 

No bounce no pace no nothing

 

Management should select from these for sena. 

 

Missing about 6 more

 

[Nikhil_cric]

57 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Such bowlers (skiddy)  could be under fire in Australia as they don't generate much bounce.  So it will be interesting how he copes up with that.  Needs a mean short ball as well...  as he has good pace. 

He was quite green last time he went to Australia & was bashed around.  

 

He may find success in SA though.  Lateral movement is always there...  And has got that outswing naturally. 

Naseem will get enough bounce in Australia. I believe he has worked with Steffan Jones recently and that shows in his new ball performance in SL. The issue is finding the right length in places like Perth.  Also, coming back for spell after spell is crucial as you don't get appreciable reverse over there.

 

If he can bowl the right length and maintain speed, he will definitely be effective. The problem for PAK is that even if Naseem and Shaheen do that, they have no 3rd seamer to do that and OZ will target that ruthlessly.

 

[Axl100mph]

39 minutes ago, wazza said:

He can't cope for crap . He will get blown away. Mark these words. 

He will get exposed badly. 

 

He will only suit u.a.e and dustbowl pitches that are abrasive in Asia. 

Was the MCG final last year also played on an abrasive dustbowl?

 

How come was he not blown away there and instead look the most threatening bowler on show from both sides?

 

 

Edited July 28, 2023 by Axl100mph

[MediumPacer]

3 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

I don't see the similarity here to be honest.

https://www.bcci.tv/videos/5559865/prof-d-b-deodhar-trophy-2023-24-fantastic-five-red-hot-kaverappas-lethal-517

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MediumPacer]

2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Hmmm....  Yeah this is good stuff.  Naseem should stay away from T20s & stick to ODIs & Tests. 

 

 

cant see

[MediumPacer]

15 minutes ago, Axl100mph said:

Was the MCG final last year also played on an abrasive dustbowl?

 

How come was he not blown away there and instead look the most threatening bowler on show from both sides?

 

 

Need tall pacers there ,but he does bowl very straight .Thats his strength.

[express bowling]

5 hours ago, MediumPacer said:

he is like siraj

 

Siraj hits top speeds of 143 k to 148 k in different matches. Bowls lots of 140 k+ deliveries. 

 

Doubt Kaverappa will come anywhere close.