rkt.india Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, express bowling said: Read a report that our team management is very impressed with the speeds Thampi bowled at in the Team India nets. Thampi is bowling more front on than side on these days. He can be very quick if he goes side on with his action. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Thampi is bowling more front on than side on these days. He can be very quick if he goes side on with his action. Is he ? I have not see him bowl this season. Why did he change his action ? Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I have not seen Thampi bowl in recent months. Will try seeing and then comment. Link to comment
Mosher Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 If Khaleel can learn to move the ball into the right hander at this pace, he will be a serious prospect. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Mosher Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 When Nathu comes back, Rajasthan will probably be the strongest pace attack in domestic cricket. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Indian fast bowlers bowling like Cho*ts! Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Player Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 VD Philander (SA) 3* 5 75.1 28 177 12 6/42 9/75 14.75 2.35 37.5 1 0 K Rabada (SA) 3* 5 81.4 17 235 12 3/34 5/75 19.58 2.87 40.8 0 0 M Morkel (SA) 3* 5 77.1 20 213 10 4/60 4/70 21.30 2.76 46.3 0 0 Mohammed Shami (INDIA) 3* 5 63.0 14 197 9 4/49 5/107 21.88 3.12 42.0 0 0 L Ngidi (SA) 2* 3 41.2 12 117 8 6/39 7/90 14.62 2.83 31.0 1 0 B Kumar (INDIA) 2* 3 39.2 16 127 8 4/87 6/120 15.87 3.22 29.5 0 0 R Ashwin (INDIA) 2 4 76.3 17 215 7 4/113 5/191 30.71 2.81 65.5 0 0 JJ Bumrah (INDIA) 3* 5 80.2 13 263 7 3/39 4/112 37.57 3.27 68.8 0 0 I Sharma (INDIA) 2* 3 44.0 9 93 5 3/46 5/86 18.60 2.11 52.8 0 0 HH Pandya (INDIA) 3* 4 43.0 6 144 3 2/27 3/80 48.00 3.34 86.0 0 0 AL Phehlukwayo (SA) 1* 1 7.0 1 25 2 2/25 2/25 12.50 3.57 21.0 0 0 DW Steyn (SA) 1 1 17.3 6 51 2 2/51 2/51 25.50 2.91 52.5 0 0 KA Maharaj (SA) 2 4 36.0 3 125 1 1/67 1/93 125.00 3.47 216.0 0 0 Averages of 37 and 48 in such a pacer friendly conditions. Both have been as good as part timers. Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Thampi's action is lot less round arm now so may be generating less pace. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 46 minutes ago, Mosher said: If Khaleel can learn to move the ball into the right hander at this pace, he will be a serious prospect. why do you think he does not do that? Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Player Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 VD Philander (SA) 3* 5 75.1 28 177 12 6/42 9/75 14.75 2.35 37.5 1 0 K Rabada (SA) 3* 5 81.4 17 235 12 3/34 5/75 19.58 2.87 40.8 0 0 M Morkel (SA) 3* 5 77.1 20 213 10 4/60 4/70 21.30 2.76 46.3 0 0 Mohammed Shami (INDIA) 3* 5 63.0 14 197 9 4/49 5/107 21.88 3.12 42.0 0 0 L Ngidi (SA) 2* 3 41.2 12 117 8 6/39 7/90 14.62 2.83 31.0 1 0 B Kumar (INDIA) 2* 3 39.2 16 127 8 4/87 6/120 15.87 3.22 29.5 0 0 R Ashwin (INDIA) 2 4 76.3 17 215 7 4/113 5/191 30.71 2.81 65.5 0 0 JJ Bumrah (INDIA) 3* 5 80.2 13 263 7 3/39 4/112 37.57 3.27 68.8 0 0 I Sharma (INDIA) 2* 3 44.0 9 93 5 3/46 5/86 18.60 2.11 52.8 0 0 HH Pandya (INDIA) 3* 4 43.0 6 144 3 2/27 3/80 48.00 3.34 86.0 0 0 AL Phehlukwayo (SA) 1* 1 7.0 1 25 2 2/25 2/25 12.50 3.57 21.0 0 0 DW Steyn (SA) 1 1 17.3 6 51 2 2/51 2/51 25.50 2.91 52.5 0 0 KA Maharaj (SA) 2 4 36.0 3 125 1 1/67 1/93 125.00 3.47 216.0 0 0 Averages of 37 and 48 in such a pacer friendly conditions. Both have been as good as part timers. Pandya is a 5th bowler. Their 5th bowler was maharaj. and last test was not in seam bowling friendly conditions. first test Pandya averaged 26. Bumrah is certainly a question mark IMO. he has pace but his wide of the crease bowling approach is not suited to test cricket overseas. Link to comment
Mosher Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, rkt.india said: why do you think he does not do that? Maybe something to do with his wrist position. He reminds me of a young Zaheer Khan. He needs to get closer to the stumps. express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: Bumrah is certainly a question mark IMO. he has pace but his wide of the crease bowling approach is not suited to test cricket overseas. This just his first test series. Bumrah is a quick learner and I expect him to learn. sandeep and speedheat 2 Link to comment
Mosher Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) In hindsight Umesh should have played in place of Bumrah. Umesh has a good outswinger and could have bowled with the new ball with Bk. I felt the new ball was being wasted yesterday with Bumrah. With Bumrah also playing the ODI's and T20's some rest would have done him good. Edited January 25, 2018 by Mosher sandeep and speedheat 2 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Pandya is a 5th bowler. Their 5th bowler was maharaj. and last test was not in seam bowling friendly conditions. first test Pandya averaged 26. Bumrah is certainly a question mark IMO. he has pace but his wide of the crease bowling approach is not suited to test cricket overseas. Very simplistic analysis. Its a lack of experience and lack of knowledge of tactics/techniques. Bowling wide of the wicket is the least of the issue here. Peshust and express bowling 2 Link to comment
CoverDrive Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 remember when shami and umesh were going to win us series abroad Link to comment
CG Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Very simplistic analysis. Its a lack of experience and lack of knowledge of tactics/techniques. Bowling wide of the wicket is the least of the issue here.Agreed every bowler has his style .Bumrah has bowled well but prone to one bad over in a spell where he tries too much. Peshust 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 20 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said: Very simplistic analysis. Its a lack of experience and lack of knowledge of tactics/techniques. Bowling wide of the wicket is the least of the issue here. it is one of the reasons. Bumrah needs to take the ball away from right handers, which is not going to happen often by bowling so wide of the crease. Outswing bowlers are the most successful bowlers in these conditions. by bowling wide of the crease, you are giving batsmen an easy angle to work with. why people like Steyn, Philander, Hazlewood, even BK are so good because they do not give any angle to work with. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 28 minutes ago, Mosher said: In hindsight Umesh should have played in place of Bumrah. Umesh has a good outswinger and could have bowled with the new ball with Bk. I felt the new ball was being wasted yesterday with Bumrah. With Bumrah also playing the ODI's and T20's some rest would have done him good. Saini should have played. he would be an ideal foil to BK with the new ball. He swings and seam both. Bumrah should have been rested in this test. Umesh would have leaked runs at 4-5 rpo. i have no confidence in him at all. sandeep 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 31 minutes ago, express bowling said: This just his first test series. Bumrah is a quick learner and I expect him to learn. he will still have to bowl from closer to the stumps to get that outswing going which i dont see happening. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, rkt.india said: he will still have to bowl from closer to the stumps to get that outswing going which i dont see happening. Not every successful pacer is an outswing bowler. He will just have to bowl more deliveries that hold their line or seam away Link to comment
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