Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[singhvivek141]

2 hours ago, the don said:

South africa doesnt even hype its talent.

This Burger kid is bowling quicker than Umran yet never heard about him. 

Burger is 28, not a "kid" in any sense.

Umran is faster than Burger.

[tapandrun]

11 hours ago, Mosher said:

Steyn hyping up Burger's pace even when he is going for runs. We know what some Indian commentator would have said if it was some young Indian fast bowler.

Yes Ind commentators tries to bring down the Ind genuine pacer, the situation is worse in Domestics. 

Inlpace of endorsing pace and pacer they uses old cliche- faster it comes faster it goes.  

 

Any1 can become line length bowler it take a huge effort to become genuine pacer. Knowing well that the carrier will be not that long, will be riddled with injuries and then any bad day you will be labeled as waste of a bowler

Edited December 15, 2023 by tapandrun

[tapandrun]

Pak red-ball bowling has given-up on test cricket, they are lot more focused on t20i,  PCB is also lot more focused on t20s.

 

 

 

 

 

[Suhaan]

10 hours ago, the don said:

Naseem is a star. Consistently quick in tests for the last three or four years. He hits 140 most consistently out of all teat bowlers.

Naseem will only get slower as he is already doing it

[singhvivek141]

3 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Yes Ind commentators are tries to bring down the Ind genuine pacer, the situation is worse in Domestics. 

Inlpace of endorsing pace and pacer they uses old cliche- faster it comes faster it goes.  

 

Any1 can become line length bowler it take a huge effort to become genuine pacer. Knowing well that the carrier will be not that long, will be riddled with injuries and then any bad day you will be labeled as waste of a bowler

True....yesterday during VHT all 3 Khaleel, Arafat & Aniket were bowling 128-135 and leaking runs left right & center. Not once that Ashok Malhotra used the same "wayward" word against them.

[express bowling]

Speed ranges for the Aussies on Day 2

 

Starc            135 k to 143 k

Cummins     133 k to 140 k

Hazelwood  127 k to 136 k 

 

The Aussie bowling has lacked fire and accuracy. 

Edited December 15, 2023 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Very few balls from the Aussie pacers have hit the stumps.

 

Poor line and length too short.

[harpicP]

7 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Speed ranges for the Aussies till the 34th over

 

Starc           137 k yo 143 k

Cummins     133 k to 140 k

Hazelwood  132 k to 136 k 

 

The Aussie bowling has lacked fire and accuracy. 

that has been their standard pace tbh on average. 

starc is 140 to 142 on average. in his prime maybe 145 on average to 146

 

cummins is around 137 on average to 138

 

 

 

lastly hazlewood ysed to be 137 138 ish on average but has dropped to 134 135 now in tests.

[Suhaan]

Australia needed Lance Morris here

[express bowling]

20 minutes ago, harpicP said:

that has been their standard pace tbh on average. 

starc is 140 to 142 on average. in his prime maybe 145 on average to 146

 

cummins is around 137 on average to 138

 

 

 

lastly hazlewood ysed to be 137 138 ish on average but has dropped to 134 135 now in tests.

 

What is missing are the quicker balls.

 

Cummins used to bowl some at 142 k to 144 k .. Starc some at 145 k to 148 k

[express bowling]

21 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Australia needed Lance Morris here

 

Was thinking the same 

 

No fiery pacer on view today despite game at Perth. 

[express bowling]

Hazelwood often bowling high 120s now.

 

 

[harpicP]

9 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

What is missing are the quicker balls.

 

Cummins used to bowl some at 142 k to 144 k .. Starc some at 145 k to 148 k

yea i feel bumrah shami and sometimes even siraj does more 140 balls than cummins and hazlewood. only starc has higher % of 140 plus balls. 

bumrah shami at times can consistently be around 140 to 145 if they are fired up/ 

[vishalvirsingh]

23 hours ago, express bowling said:

Siraj maiden over in a T20I 

 

Consistent outswing at 135 k to 142 k with 3 slips.

 

He was angling it in and swinging it away. 

perfect line n length in this over...

pace 136 to 142- could be a shade better but still OK.

each ball moved a little.

not even a single ball was a short ball , all were little short to good length.

Smart bowling , he bowled balls hitting the seam and also bowled cross seam

[Suhaan]

Arey ye kya hua re,ab ka hoga

 

[tapandrun]

17 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Was thinking the same 

 

No fiery pacer on view today despite game at Perth. 

They have Lance Moris (which they are saying is quick, was not touching 145 + kmph that oftenin BBL last season)  in their team.

Not sure why he is not getting the chances, he was in Ind tour as well, where they played Boland over him 

Edited December 16, 2023 by tapandrun

[harpicP]

28 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

They have Lance Moris (which they are saying is quick, was not touching 145 + kmph that often) in their team.

Not sure why he is not getting the chances, he was in Ind tour as well, where they played Boland over him 

2 reasons. 

He is not a kmh over 140 and avg speed in tests is around 138.

He is also just not that good. 

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, tapandrun said:

They have Lance Moris (which they are saying is quick, was not touching 145 + kmph that oftenin BBL last season)  in their team.

Not sure why he is not getting the chances, he was in Ind tour as well, where they played Boland over him 

 

Maybe Morris isn't as quick as they claimed. 

 

Australia won't bench a pacer if he is truly 145 k+. 

Edited December 16, 2023 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Cummins bowling 130 k to 135 k mostly .. but with bounce snd pinpoint accuracy. Saw a fastest of 137 k.

Edited December 17, 2023 by express bowling

[Suhaan]

Pace attack fielded today by India in (mind you)SA

Arshadeep

Mukesha

Avesh