Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Adamant]

As of now it looks like Bumrah and Arshdeep are gonna be selected.

 

Arshdeep isn’t a good choice for t20s, if he doesn’t get any movement in the air he is cannon fodder.

 

Siraj looks out of touch and I am not sure if he is actually a t20 bowler.

 

Prasidhs stock has fallen down and I don’t think he is even in selectors mind.

 

Mayank is out of the IPL

 

 

Akashdeep’s IPL stats are terrible plus he is from Bihar.

 

Khaleel looks like the best option right now but I am not sure about him.

 

Shami is inured so won’t be considered.

 

Overall our pace bowling looks pretty weak for this t20 Wc, god forbid if Bumrah gets injured we will be a proper minnow level attack

 

 

[express bowling]

On 4/12/2024 at 5:47 PM, Nikhil_cric said:

Bumrah and Arshdeep have gotten the most seam movement in the Powerplay of this IPL.

 

Just need 2 more fast bowlers in the World T20 squad to back them up.

 

These 2 should be locks in the squad at this point. 

 

Arshdeep's swing with the new ball has reduced. The pace and accuracy of his yorkers have reduced too. 

 

Not inspiring confidence this time.

[express bowling]

Apart from Bumrah and Kuldeep Y, we don't have many dependable T20 bowlers. Slow or fast, most will get hit.

 

Among proper pacers not named Bumrah, only Harshit Rana is displaying some T20 skills and ability keep the batsman guessing. He can bowl with the new ball, at the death and in the middle overs too. He can bowl the slower ball without much change in action and it helps that his preceeding faster ball can be 145 k+. He gets good bounce too. Can bowl wide yorkers, slower balls and bouncers and tries to out-think batters. Plus he can hit big shots. Only thing missing is the straight yorker. 

 

Mayank Yadav, if fit, can be an asset in the middle overs. Apart from raw pace, his accuracy and steep bounce will be very difficult to handle. 

 

My choice of Indian bowlers for World T20

 

Bumrah

Harshit .. can hit big 

Arshdeep .. picked because of lack of options

Mayank

 

Kuldeep

Axar .. A/R

Washington .. A/R

Edited April 15, 2024 by express bowling

[Need4Speed]

5 hours ago, express bowling said:

Apart from Bumrah and Kuldeep Y, we don't have many dependable T20 bowlers. Slow or fast, most will get hit.

 

Among proper pacers not named Bumrah, only Harshit Rana is displaying some T20 skills and ability keep the batsman guessing. He can bowl with the new ball, at the death and in the middle overs too. He can bowl the slower ball without much change in action and it helps that his preceeding faster ball can be 145 k+. He gets good bounce too. Can bowl wide yorkers, slower balls and bouncers and tries to out-think batters. Plus he can hit big shots. Only thing missing is the straight yorker. 

 

Mayank Yadav, if fit, can be an asset in the middle overs. Apart from raw pace, his accuracy and steep bounce will be very difficult to handle. 

 

My choice of Indian bowlers for World T20

 

Bumrah

Harshit .. can hit big 

Arshdeep .. picked because of lack of options

Mayank

 

Kuldeep

Axar .. A/R

Washington .. A/R

I wished Mayank remained injury free else Boom Mayank and KY could have been a great bowling line up..but as Mayank is still developing he may be prone to injury which our lack of ARs wont be able to cover..unless we add Abshishek Sharma in the xi..

Thoughts on Mohsin khan due to extra bounce and death bowling??

I still want him to be more fit though…

Hopefully Harshit matures even further during ipl too as he is getting regular chances at kkr

Edited April 15, 2024 by Need4Speed

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, Need4Speed said:

I wished Mayank remained injury free else Boom Mayank and KY could have been a great bowling line up..but as Mayank is still developing he may be prone to injury which our lack of ARs wont be able to cover..unless we add Abshishek Sharma in the xi..

Thoughts on Mohsin khan due to extra bounce and death bowling??

I still want him to be more fit though…

Hopefully Harshit matures even further during ipl too as he is getting regular chances at kkr

 

Mohsin's motivation to play for India is a bit unclear to me. 

[TellTheTruth]

Looking indian T20I bowling stats is embarrassing, only 4 bowlers have taken 50+ wickets. Indian Pace Bowlers with 50+ t20 wickets

Arshdeep has been an expensive wicket taker, and BK on opposite end of spectrum of being an a containing bowler that rarely picks up a wicket, and Bumrah being the Goldilocks of being a wicket taker that also doesn't give up runs.  Pandyas stats are pretty bad considering he doesnt have to bowl in the powerplay or bowl at the death.

[tapandrun]

42 minutes ago, TellTheTruth said:

Looking indian T20I bowling stats is embarrassing, only 4 bowlers have taken 50+ wickets. Indian Pace Bowlers with 50+ t20 wickets

Arshdeep has been an expensive wicket taker, and BK on opposite end of spectrum of being an a containing bowler that rarely picks up a wicket, and Bumrah being the Goldilocks of being a wicket taker that also doesn't give up runs.  Pandyas stats are pretty bad considering he doesnt have to bowl in the powerplay or bowl at the death.

Its hard to be a bowler in T20s, its either they have some mystery or they are Pathirana/Malings. TMs need to create a rounded up T20 bowling attack if those 2 kind of bowlers not available to the teams.

 

Yesterday's match was a perfect example why Ind team lack potency in their bowling, Bhumrah bowled well but batters were able to keep him away from taking wkts, and scored off other bowlers and in the end over all the batters can have a swing at Bhumrah too.

 

Now where else Pathirana not just stopped the run flow but too the wkts too, breaking the game for their side.

 

And for CSK those were not Intnl batters still they kept Bhumrah way from taking wkts

Edited April 15, 2024 by tapandrun

[Adamant]

As of now only Bumrah looks like having a fix spot in the team.

 

There is no other pacer which inspires any confidence.

 

Mayank looked good but is inured, Shami is out, Siraj looks like a shadow of his former self. Pandya looks spent.

 

 

Arshdeep is probably gonna be picked bcoz of lack of options as others are saying.

 

Khaleel might be picked coz he is actually bowling with some zip .

 

The pace attack in our squad can be

Bumrah

Khaleel

Arshdeep

Pandya

 

[Need4Speed]

7 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Mohsin's motivation to play for India is a bit unclear to me. 

his lazy approach to fielding and fitness is disappointing..but his control and execution is good most of the times..

if Mayank and Harshit will need some more time to mature then we may think about Mohsin as a backup option as unfortunately..I am not seeing anyone reliable after Bumrah..Arshdeep has gone down badly..

[singhvivek141]

7 hours ago, Need4Speed said:

his lazy approach to fielding and fitness is disappointing..but his control and execution is good most of the times..

if Mayank and Harshit will need some more time to mature then we may think about Mohsin as a backup option as unfortunately..I am not seeing anyone reliable after Bumrah..Arshdeep has gone down badly..

Even Arshdeep is very lazy and has a pathetic attitude, simply gives up midway while chasing the ball. Compare him with Pathirana or Suyyash who despite being average fielders actually dive and put effort to take catches/stop runs.

 

I don't want such lazy players with lethargic attitude anywhere around Indian team.

[devisreeprasadmahesh]

9 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Even Arshdeep is very lazy and has a pathetic attitude, simply gives up midway while chasing the ball. Compare him with Pathirana or Suyyash who despite being average fielders actually dive and put effort to take catches/stop runs.

 

I don't want such lazy players with lethargic attitude anywhere around Indian team.

True. Well said. Avesh khan, prasidh krishna are similar fellows. Lazy and non committed. From the 90s Indian cricket era

[ind_hyd1]

Simarjeet was impressive in the match against Punjab, hope he gets more oppurtunities

[Vijy]

On 4/16/2024 at 9:10 AM, devisreeprasadmahesh said:

True. Well said. Avesh khan, prasidh krishna are similar fellows. Lazy and non committed. From the 90s Indian cricket era

they would have fit team culture well then

[express bowling]

Fastest Balls by Indians in IPL 2024   ( rounded off  )

 

What I have seen ... may have missed a few

 

 

 

Mayank      157 kph

 

 

Umran         149 kph  ( just ONE fresking over bowled )

Tyagi           149 kph  ( just ONE match played )

Sen              148 kph

Harshit       147 kph

Bumrah      147 kph

 

 

Siraj              146 kph

Simarjeet   146 kph

Umesh         145 kph

Khaleel        145 kph 

Mohsin        145 kph 

Avesh           144 kph

Ishant           144 kph

 

**  Shami.and Prasidh were injured. 

Edited May 27, 2024 by express bowling

[tapandrun]

Not sure if this is up to date , here are fastest ipl bowler 2024.

Think Pathirana would be difficult to face in t20 wc, low action hitting 145+ kmph v.often and targeting lbw eachtime

 

 

Bowler	Team	Fastest ball in IPL 2024
Mayank Yadav	LSG	156.7 kmph
Nandre Burger	RR	153.0 kmph
Gerald Coetzee	MI	152.3 kmph
Alzarri Joseph	RCB	151.2 kmph
Matheesha Pathirana	CSK	150.9 kmph

Edited May 27, 2024 by tapandrun

[Vijy]

5 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Not sure if this is up to date , here are fastest ipl bowler 2024.

Think Pathirana would be difficult to face in t20 wc, low action hitting 145+ kmph v.often and targeting lbw eachtime

 

 

Bowler	Team	Fastest ball in IPL 2024
Mayank Yadav	LSG	156.7 kmph
Nandre Burger	RR	153.0 kmph
Gerald Coetzee	MI	152.3 kmph
Alzarri Joseph	RCB	151.2 kmph
Matheesha Pathirana	CSK	150.9 kmph

burger will be hard too. left arm quicks bowling at 150+ are v. difficult

[tapandrun]

26 minutes ago, Vijy said:

burger will be hard too. left arm quicks bowling at 150+ are v. difficult

Donot think Burger was hitting 145+ kmph that often, that was the only game he was bowling that fast.

Only Barbados is kind of zippy surface, not sure what is going kind of pitches are prepared for us matches

[Vijy]

2 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Donot think Burger was hitting 145+ kmph that often, that was the only game he was bowling that fast.

Only Barbados is kind of zippy surface, not sure what is going kind of pitches are prepared for us matches

even a left-armer at 145 will be harder to play than a rightie of same pace, if all other factors are the same

[tapandrun]

Why was Wood not playing IPL this season -- he bowled fast against Pak in the t20i match.

 

Eng bowling looks good for WC -- Wood, Archer is back, Rashid and Moeen and Livigstone to and the Topley 

 

 

[Adamant]

5 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Why was Wood not playing IPL this season -- he bowled fast against Pak in the t20i match.

 

Eng bowling looks good for WC -- Wood, Archer is back, Rashid and Moeen and Livigstone to and the Topley 

 

 

True, England bowling surprisingly is top notch in this tournament.
Topley Can move the ball in the initial overs, Archer obviously is a quality bowler and Mark wood Can do the job of the enforcer in the middle overs.
Then they have Rashid and Moeen, leg spin and off spin.
Sam Curran will also play, so they have got more than enough bowling options too.

For me they are the favourites to win this t20 WC.