Rightarmfast Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 The secret to being a great bowler is also, not depending on other players. Shami and the other bowlers are still not trying to hit wicket, they are depending on wicket keeper and slip fielder. Unless they try bowling them out, their luck will not change. Was just wondering what would Dhawan and Ashwin offer for this team? A waste of 2 spots. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said: The secret to being a great bowler is also, not depending on other players. Shami and the other bowlers are still not trying to hit wicket, they are depending on wicket keeper and slip fielder. Unless they try bowling them out, their luck will not change. Was just wondering what would Dhawan and Ashwin offer for this team? A waste of 2 spots. Dhawan is playing for SA LORD_analyst, Rightarmfast, speedheat and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment
CG Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 The secret to being a great bowler is also, not depending on other players. Shami and the other bowlers are still not trying to hit wicket, they are depending on wicket keeper and slip fielder. Unless they try bowling them out, their luck will not change. Was just wondering what would Dhawan and Ashwin offer for this team? A waste of 2 spots.That's Bs.You need good Slip Fielders Most wickets in cricket as caught by slip or keeper. Peshust 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, CG said: 19 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said: The secret to being a great bowler is also, not depending on other players. Shami and the other bowlers are still not trying to hit wicket, they are depending on wicket keeper and slip fielder. Unless they try bowling them out, their luck will not change. Was just wondering what would Dhawan and Ashwin offer for this team? A waste of 2 spots. That's Bs.You need good Slip Fielders Most wickets in cricket as caught by slip or keeper. The best bowlers in history have had max wickets through lbw or bowled. Check stats! speedheat and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 very poor display by India as far as I am concerned. They could have wrapped the innings up, but they performed like a quintessential Indian team! LORD_analyst and Mosher 2 Link to comment
New guy Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rightarmfast said: The best bowlers in history have had max wickets through lbw or bowled. Check stats! On subcontinent pitches yes. On such pitches with bounce, the ideal length is shorter. All 3 of India wickets have been caught. In India most of Shami and Bhuvi's wickets are LBW or bowled Edited January 5, 2018 by New guy Link to comment
New guy Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, MultiB48 said: becomes easier if opp batsmen makes it easier ,the lines of morkel and philander balls were also wide On sub continent they are hit me balls. Here fuller balls are hit me LORD_analyst 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, New guy said: On subcontinent pitches yes. On such pitches with bounce, the ideal length is shorter. All 3 of India wickets have been caught. In India most of Shami and Bhuvi's wickets are LBW or bowled Not sure about the statement. Srinath used to bowl short in every tour and he suffered. LORD_analyst and Peshust 2 Link to comment
CG Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Not sure about the statement. Srinath used to bowl short in every tour and he suffered. It's not about just bowling full or back of length.Its about setup guys like Morkel can bowl back of length and full ball will be sucker ball.Shami problem was he was down on pace he is a seam bowler he knows how to set-up batsman he needs to work on fitness . Link to comment
CG Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 thats becasue sa dont poke at wide balls making the bowlers go fuller and leaking runs ,that same way pujara scored those runs at eden, very time they went for driving on the up they got out ithere remeber but they have too much confidence and dont learn , dhawan got out the same way he did in the 1st inning last tour, again went to pull the new ballAlso we hardly bowled bouncers to Abdv or faf to push them back we just bowled one length. express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment
CG Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 you have to bowl those short balls with the new ball else when it gets old it becomes easier but thats where you need to get it right also need confidence,in ind we always get onto the bowlers case if they bowl short making them bowl too full Shami is clearly unfit he has a great bouncer today he could not even get one up to throat height Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 47 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: he has been like his since the ct,may be carrying some injury who knows Shami bowled some the fastest and nastiest spells of his life on the SL 17 tour, after CT. Was quick at Eden 17 too. He may not be 100% after Manoj Tiwary made him bowl 40 overs in 4 sessions in the Ranji SF. This is what I was warning about at that time. Mosher 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: i think they should keep this bowling line up of 5 bowlers, it gives the likes of shami some breathing space ,else it will only get more difficult I like this team composition Just bring in Rahul and Rahane in place of Dhawan and Rohit Bowling looks fine . Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, express bowling said: I like this team composition Just bring in Rahul and Rahane in place of Dhawan and Rohit Bowling looks fine . Ashwin is a misfit. We neednt play players on reputation. Jadeja would have been better. Even the new spinners have been much better. Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 3 hours ago, express bowling said: I like this team composition Just bring in Rahul and Rahane in place of Dhawan and Rohit Bowling looks fine . bowling doesn't look all that great either. bumrah was thrown in the deep end without proper prep. and shami needs to pull his socks up. but bhuvi has been doing very well of course. Link to comment
New guy Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 9 hours ago, Rightarmfast said: Not sure about the statement. Srinath used to bowl short in every tour and he suffered. He bowled too short. Shami was a bit too full. Bhuvi bowled the ideal length. Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Naah, I dont agree with you about the shorter stuff. Maybe you mean the good length is a bit shorter abroad. ANyway, why dont you switch on ur tv and watch this Fergusson kid from NZ. Link to comment
New guy Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said: Naah, I dont agree with you about the shorter stuff. Maybe you mean the good length is a bit shorter abroad. ANyway, why dont you switch on ur tv and watch this Fergusson kid from NZ. Yes, good length is a bit shorter as you cannot drive through the line because of the bounce Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 10 hours ago, Rightarmfast said: Not sure about the statement. Srinath used to bowl short in every tour and he suffered. Srinath was our best pacer in SA. Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: Srinath was our best pacer in SA. Srinath has been the best pacer ever in SA for any country, not just India. Link to comment
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