express bowling Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 A bouncer can be effective and threatening if the ball lands on the seam and it is directed at the head / neck region . Also, it is from a tall pacer and hence not pitched too short. A 135 k bouncer can be great then . A shorter pacer like Shami needs to have quicker bouncers as he would have to pitch it shorter to get it around the head. Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Ishant should try the multiple bouncer strategy from time to time. To put psychological pressure on the English. Bowl a mixture of good lengths and some bouncers at other times. Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Since the English might be somewhat psyched out by bouncers, I strongly feel that Pankaj Singh should be included in place of Binny. Pankaj Singh can bowl good bouncers if needed and , if the ball swings, he is a good exponent of that too. Would be a very versatile pacer in England and Infact most places. Link to comment
maniac Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 If chin music is the way to go bring in Aaron and further rattle the poms. Link to comment
ThePhenomenal1 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 If chin music is the way to go bring in Aaron and further rattle the poms. but that would supposedly weaken the batting despite increasing chance to take 20 wickets #indialogic Link to comment
Insidious Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Bouncers are always good if you can bowl at decent clip around 140 to keep batsman honest. It can also unsettle the footwork. So' date=' he needs to work on it. Being a tall bowler, he must use bouncers effectively.[/quote'] I think he bowled at really good pace, if not alarmingly fast. Even though the bouncers bowled to prior,stokes n root were not well directed one, but were bowled at good lively pace. Stamina has not been a problem with Ishant, it is his Rhythm that has been problematic. If he is on rhythm he can even crank it up to 90mph Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Hats off to ishant"s stamina too...He was used too much by dhoni in the second innings and even he was sitting down during celebration s at the end. That was a brave and valiant spell. Hope he repeats such a spell once more In this series. Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I guess that's the issue with shammi ..when he bowls a bouncer..its a very Short ball and the batsman gets to adjust or duck down easily.. Ishant"s bouncers were not very short and we're well directed. Link to comment
JourneyMan Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 How about going all out and bringing in Pankaj AND Aaron for Binny and Shami. Pepper them with bouncers from dawn to dusk, their innings won't last more than a day. Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 But will it be smart enough to bowl short before 20overs.? Bowl will be new. England wasted the new ball by giving plunkett to bowl short in last matches. This strategy should not be tried when the ball is new and swinging. Only a few bouncers then. It can work better when the ball is not moving and the pitch has been roughed up a bit later on in the test and there is some variable bounce. But the psychological pressure created by softening up the batsmen should always be kept in mind. Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 How about going all out and bringing in Pankaj AND Aaron for Binny and Shami. Pepper them with bouncers from dawn to dusk' date=' their innings won't last more than a day.[/quote'] I was suggesting the same thing in another thread. Bringing in both Pankaj and Aaron. Going for the jugular when the English are down. If the bouncer strategy does not work then we have Bhuvi and Pankaj who can swing the ball and Ishant can use his good length seaming deliveries. Ishant and Aaron can reverse the ball. Ishant, Aaron and Pankaj can all bowl good bouncers. We would have so many options. Plus, Aaron can bat a bit. Link to comment
Gunner Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I was suggesting the same thing in another thread. Bringing in both Pankaj and Aaron. Going for the jugular when the English are down. If the bouncer strategy does not work then we have Bhuvi and Pankaj who can swing the ball and Ishant can use his good length seaming deliveries. We would have so many options. Plus, Aaron can bat a bit. If only we had a proactive and attacking captain like Clarke, who'd put in place such an aggressive strategy. Hit the English where they're vulnerable. Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 If only we had a proactive and attacking captain like Clarke' date=' who'd put in place such an aggressive strategy. Hit the English where they're vulnerable.[/quote'] Alas ! Only if ...... Link to comment
JourneyMan Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 If only we had a proactive and attacking captain like Clarke' date=' who'd put in place such an aggressive strategy. Hit the English where they're vulnerable.[/quote'] Dhoni: I don't want my bowlers to be too aggressive because they need to remain fit for next year's IPL Link to comment
ShebbySB Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 If anything I hope Ishant will be quicker in this test,he bowls quick when he's in rhythm. Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 the poms played some horrendous shots to balls that were not that short at all,Root's shot especially abysmal. Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 o how quickly the most hated guy is now the leader of chin music :--D Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Since the English might be somewhat psyched out by bouncers, I strongly feel that Pankaj Singh should be included in place of Binny. Pankaj Singh can bowl good bouncers if needed and , if the ball swings, he is a good exponent of that too. Would be a very versatile pacer in England and Infact most places. Pankaj doesnt have good bouncers. Link to comment
maniac Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Pankaj doesnt have good bouncers. Then what is he good for :giggle:....Obviously Indian bowlers are not good with Yorkers and he is not a LOI bowler from what I hear so no variations,Doesn't have the extra pace obviously....Just Kidding. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Then what is he good for :giggle:....Obviously Indian bowlers are not good with Yorkers and he is not a LOI bowler from what I hear so no variations' date='Doesn't have the extra pace obviously....Just Kidding.[/quote'] It is not like he cant bowl bouncers. He can but that is not forte. He is a seam swing bowler and a work horse, can bowl spells in good areas, gets decent bounce at around 135 or so, but to bowl bouncers, you need a bit more pace. Link to comment
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