Number Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 No 100 outside SC in any format. That proves you are right.
velu Posted August 15, 2014 Author Posted August 15, 2014 No 100 outside SC in any format. That proves you are right. for a #7 batsmen , other end shld support him .. wats this obsession with 100s :giggle:
CSK Fan Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 for a #7 batsmen , other end shld support him .. wats this obsession with 100s :giggle: Because this is 5 day cricket, not IPL where a 50 would make any difference to the score, you need big ones. Even average guys like Akmal and Prior have scored 100s and turned the course of the match. Dhoni at best would manage a 50, Pujara and Kohli at best would score over 150. That is the difference. Having said that, no doubt true grit can conquer many an obstacle including lack of technique
velu Posted August 15, 2014 Author Posted August 15, 2014 Because this is 5 day cricket, not IPL where a 50 would make any difference to the score, you need big ones. Dhoni at best would manage a 50, Pujara and Kohli at best would score over 150. That is the difference. Having said that, no doubt true grit can conquer many an obstacle including lack of technique you already agreed dhoni is gritty ( not now , long back ) :icflove: pujara too doesnt seem to have pretty technique like rat or nohit.. dhoni got criticized when he came down the track to defend jimmy in the last tests when the ball was moving towards leg.. it might have looked ugly , but kewl eliminated his inswinger and LBW
Straight Drive Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Well batted, Dhoni. Is he now the second highest Indian batsmen in this series?
velu Posted August 15, 2014 Author Posted August 15, 2014 Well batted' date=' Dhoni. Is he now the second highest Indian batsmen in this series?[/quote'] yes .. but averaging arnd 40 .. best is vijay who is averaging 45
Straight Drive Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 yes .. but averaging arnd 40 .. best is vijay who is averaging 45 If a teams wicket keeper is their second highest run scorer in the series, then it helps a lot with the team combination. I would any day take 349 runs in 9 innings from a wicket keeper.
Lord Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 ]If a teams wicket keeper is their second highest run scorer in the series' date=' then it helps a lot with the team combination[/b']. I would any day take 349 runs in 9 innings from a wicket keeper. Or it shows other specialist batsmen have been poor
Precambrian Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Yeah blame Dhoni for poor batting by others.
Straight Drive Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 Or it shows other specialist batsmen have been poor Let's for a moment consider Dhoni's batting average in isolation. He averages 38.77 in this series. Personally, i would take that batting average from a Indian wicket keeper in England over a 5 match series. Talking about specialist batsmen, they have not given us results of specialist batters. None of the batsman is averaging over 50, so nobody is in prime form.
rkt.india Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 you already agreed dhoni is gritty ( not now , long back ) :icflove: pujara too doesnt seem to have pretty technique like rat or nohit.. d After a long time, Dhoni is showing any grit in test cricket. Since Aus tour 2008, he was a walking wicket whenever there is any help for bowlers. He used to throw his bat at balls wide outside giving catching practice to slips.
Sidhoni Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 Don't waste your time..its a useless innings to boost the average if I go by the standards here :winky:
kubrickian Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 He really battled it out. He is one of the most mentally tough cricketers to have played for India. Technically not great but his temperament is excellent. If technique is everything, Sanjay Manjrekar would have scored 10,000 runs in tests.
Sachin=GOD Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 Don't waste your time..its a useless innings to boost the average if I go by the standards here :winky: Aah...look who's here :giggle:
BeautifulGame Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 I think even Dhoni would be surprised by how much he succeed in the last 2 tests . No one can question his grit but thats hardly enough to survive when its swing. Anyone actually has an idea how he has managed to do well when in the past he struggled so bad when it was swinging ? Technique improved ? Luck? Experience?
Lord Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 I think even Dhoni would be surprised by how much he succeed in the last 2 tests . No one can question his grit but thats hardly enough to survive when its swing. Anyone actually has an idea how he has managed to do well when in the past he struggled so bad when it was swinging ? Technique improved ? Luck? Experience? no,he has learnt to leave the balls outside off which he earlier used to flash at. MS Dhoni, the batsman, finds a way around ‘away’ problem This comes straight from the horse’s mouth: “Mahendra Singh Dhoni has a horrible technique when it comes to Test cricket.†That’s what the Indian captain said at The Oval on Thursday. Within days of being the team’s highest scorer in the Test played under the toughest conditions, the Indian captain candidly spoke about the way he has conducted himself at the crease in this series, while proudly touching upon his limitations as a batsman. Scoring 71 in the team’s total of 152 in the first innings and following it up with a fighting 27 in the second at Old Trafford, Dhoni (267) is just behind Murali Vijay (382) and Ajinkya Rahane (295) on the run-makers’ list. However, he hasn’t been able to better his previous highest in England, the 92 he scored at Oval in 2007. Even his series average of 33 is same as his career ‘away’ average. But there seems to be something about Dhoni’s batting which conveys in a subtle way that Dhoni might have found a permanent solution to his ‘away’ problem. Or at least a better way to deal with swinging ball. In the past, Dhoni has so often got out, reaching out or pushing at the balls pitched outside the off-stump. Bowlers have repeatedly bowled the away going delivery and Dhoni, so used to the hustle-bustle of shorter version cricketer, has tried to sneak singles to covers. In this series he is more guarded. The ‘push’ hasn’t been removed his ‘stroke bouquet’ but it’s been modified. In England this time, especially at Old Trafford, his back lift has been the same but the bat speed seems slower now. That means he is in more control of his ‘stock stroke’ now. The slower bat flow hasn’t affected the run flow. That’s because Dhoni’s powerful bottom hand gripping the bat neck lends enough momentum to the ball to send it across the fence. The new Dhoni is more assertive in his front foot play and, like in the past, doesn’t get caught in the crease. The short ball hasn’t scared him. Bowlers tried to scare him away but he has taken body blows while standing way out of the crease. Over the years, pundits have endlessly scrutinised Dhoni’s technique, especially when he has failed abroad. Invariably they have concluded that his skills are inadequate to do well outside the sub-continent. The early habits formed while playing on the slow and low tracks needed to be tempered. The master of the shorter version knew this and he had been working hard to change his batting. The results are now showing. Not just about runs Dhoni explains how it took so long. “The problem I was facing was that what I was doing in the nets, I wasn’t able to take it to the middle. That’s the big step http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/dhoni-the-batsman-finds-a-way-around-away-problem/ Here Dhoni himself saying he has a horrible technique (as usual just taking credit and not accepting his faults:winky:) and that hes been working on leaving and slowing bat speed
velu Posted August 16, 2014 Author Posted August 16, 2014 Aah...look who's here :giggle: dont troll him.. he is not posting here only bcoz of you :((
Sidhoni Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 dont troll him.. he is not posting here only bcoz of you :(( Not posting anywhere man..busy..if that was the case I would have disappeared just one random day but I haven't been here since Fifa final.
KFC_Zinger Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 Should Binny's 25 runs yesterday also qualify for grit over technique ?
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