Crookbond Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 An article by an ex-Army officer who served in the Kashmir valley from 1994-97. One Haider is not enough https://in.news.yahoo.com/one-haider-not-enough-051759836.html
FischerTal Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 Haider – The One True Chutzpah! article by kashmiri pandit, quite interesting Source: http://dimplekaul.wordpress.com/2014/10/04/haider-the-one-true-chutzpah/
BeautifulGame Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 It takes some amount of guts, ambition and skill to ride two wild horses — at the same time. And Vishal Bhardwaj is in glorious form as he churns out the best of his Shakespeare trilogy, an adaptation of*Hamlet… which is also an unflinching look at the recent political history of Kashmir that bred many Haiders thirsting for revenge against the brothers of their fathers based on a ghost version of history. A story so audacious that Mother India crosses the Line of Control, not just metaphorically. While the political repercussions of juxtaposing the Kashmir situation with*Hamlet*can be argued endlessly, especially in the context of the depiction of the Indian army, there is no denying that mass graves of disappeared people were indeed found. It is a proven and uncomfortable part of Kashmir’s history where a few people with power gave an entire force a bad name. But the Kashmir issue is not just about who did what but about the why: Revenge. Misguided youth baying for blood goaded on by manipulative politicians. Haider*then is the story of a flawed, misguided, conflicted man, not a*hero. Shahid Kapoor is a revelation as a man with a wounded soul and existential crisis torn between his love for* Arshia, his Ophelia (even Shraddha Kapoor is thoroughly convincing) and his hate for her father. He represents Kashmiri youth (whose homes were destroyed during a painfully turbulent phase in recent history) haunted by the past and coping with the newly formed alliance at home. Genre:*Drama*Director:*Vishal Bhardwaj*Cast:Tabu, Shahid Kapoor, Kay Kay Menon, Shraddha Kapoor, Irrfan Khan*Storyline:*Haider must avenge his father’s death by killing his uncle who coveted his mother*Bottomline:*An absolutely delightful and lyrical adaptation of Hamlet that takes some liberties, for Kashmir’s sake Haider’s old home was destroyed thanks to the war between militants and the army. His father (Narendra Jha is quite the find of the film) was a casualty of a misunderstanding, representative of a generation that literally disappeared because of doubt — when the State could not take a chance or tell who was a militant and who wasn’t. The mother (Tabu representing Mother India shines in one of the strongest roles ever written for women in modern cinematic history) is trying to move on and trying to embrace normalcy, even if this sense of security is given by the people responsible for the destruction of her family (Kay Kay Menon, as the uncle with designs on the mother, pulls off an equally complex role with ease). What happens when the boy is given a gun to get his revenge? This is a murderous and explosive family dynamic — a ticking time-bomb and*Haider*is all about the tension that goes down to the wire with the timeless question that echoes all through the narrative. Vishal Bhardwaj crafts this nervous tension in pale white Kashmir, lets it simmer all through the first half, soaking you in the environment slowly and indulgently till the dramatic entry of the ghost (Irrfan Khan in simply one of the finest roles he has ever got) and then stokes the flames, sexes it up with a rocking score, loaded lyrics, colourful choreography and brilliantly staged monologues — all as interesting interpretations of scenes from the source material. The second half is when the politics of Kashmir impregnates*Hamlet. Shahid’s long monologue and the choreography of ‘Bismil’ are two of the best moments in Hindi cinema of recent times. Will he or won’t he take the revenge he has been craving for? Haider*is about one man’s journey from the ruins of his home to the refuge of a graveyard and his ultimate choice. Vishal bookends his film with these two homes: A home that gets blasted into a graveyard and the second a graveyard that shows him the way home. It doesn’t get more lyrical than this in Hindi cinema. Lyricist Gulzar, writer-director* Vishal Bhardwaj, and writer Basharat Peer have given us an instant classic, a literary epic (the screenplay is out in the stores too) with a lesson to learn from recent history.*Haider*is an incredibly brave uncompromising film made with loads of conviction with blatant disregard to market conventions, one that will make you cheer during the meta-moment in the film when Salman Khan fans get their skulls crushed. Get your minds blown. Forget your phone, forget your watch. Brush up on your Shakespeare or at least Wiki it. And you will find*Haider*to be a truly rewarding cinematic experience. http://m.thehindu.com/features/cinema/cinema-reviews/haider-review/article6469064.ece/
rkt.india Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 watching it. KK tryng hard to produce the accent. Needless songs. Don't need songs in such films.
Yoda-esque Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Bollywood standards are so low that any half decent film is hailed as a masterpiece
rkt.india Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Bollywood standards are so low that any half decent film is hailed as a masterpiece :agree: Its not a masterpiece by any means that reviewers are making out yo be. It could have been, but not to be.
rkt.india Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 IST half was good engaging, second was dragged and it became a family revenge drama. Some absured scenes put needlessly too. Songs weren't needed. It's neither here nor there kind of a film.
surajmal Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Seems like a decent movie. Will watch when quality torrent gets leaked.:--D
veer Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 An article by an ex-Army officer who served in the Kashmir valley from 1994-97. One Haider is not enough https://in.news.yahoo.com/one-haider-not-enough-051759836.html Read the article.. It changed my perspective. will catch this movie soon.
Tiger80 Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Machis' date= Shaurya - there have been movies with showing Indian Army in the grey area. It's the truth because war/worn-torn regions brings about the best and worst in humans. Nobody knows how an individual will react to traumatic stress. Machis ? was there even India army in Macihis?
coffee_rules Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Machis ? was there even India army in Macihis? I meant law enforcement.
coffee_rules Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Seems like a decent movie. Will watch when quality torrent gets leaked.:--D this..:giggle:
rkt.india Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Haider is not about Kashmir much. So people who think there is a lot about Kashmir issue then they will be disappointed. Film has more preaching than anything else. So there was no need to include Kashmir there. As someone said, Vishal Bhardwaj made bhurji instead of homlet.
Yoda-esque Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Haider is not about Kashmir much. So people who think there is a lot about Kashmir issue then they will be disappointed. Film has more preaching than anything else. So there was no need to include Kashmir there. As someone said' date=' Vishal Bhardwaj made bhurji instead of homlet.[/quote'] You are wrong on this .. :)
rkt.india Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 You are wrong on this .. :) It has Kashmir but it goes nowhere after first half. Center point becomes Hero and his revenge. After a point, it started to feel too long. Director was confused what's his priority. If his priority was this then he did not need to preach about Kashmir and those issues or he should have concentrated more on that. That is where it becomes pretentious and fails to reach the peak.
rkt.india Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 A Kashmiri Separatist, a MSM News Reporter and a tough Para-Commando were captured by terrorists in Kashmir. The Chief of the terrorists told them he'd grant each of them one last request before they were beheaded in front of a Camera. The Kashmiri Separatist said,'Well, before I die I want to drink a last cup of Kahwah (Kashmiri Green-Tea).' The Chief nodded to an underling who left and returned with the Kahwa. The Kashmiri Separatist drank it all and said, 'Now I can die content.' Now the Chief turned towards the News-reporter and repeated the same question - "What is your last wish before you die?" The News-reporter said - "I'm a reporter to the end. I want to take out my Camcorder and describe the scene here and what's about to happen. Maybe, someday, someone will watch it and know the Truth. The Chief directed an aide to hand over the Camcorder and the reporter dictated her comments. She then said, "Now I can die happy.." The Chief turned to the Commando and asked - "And now, Army Dog, what is your final wish?" 'Punch me hard,' said the Para-Commando. "What?" - asked the Chief, surprised a bit- " You dare to mock us? " "No, I'm NOT kidding. I want you to punch me as hard as you can' insisted the Para-Commando. "With pleasure" - replied the Terrorists' Chief, grinning from face to face. The Terrorists' Chief then punches the Commando so hard that he falls back a couple of feet on his back. But as the Commando touches the ground, he rolls over, pulls a 9 mm Silenced pistol hidden in his boots and shoots the Chief dead. In the resulting confusion, he emptied his Pistol on six terrorists, then with his knife he slashed the throat of one, and with an AK-47, which he took from one of the already dead terrorists, sprayed the rest of the terrorists killing the remainder. In a flash, all of the Terrorists including their Chief, were dead. As the soldier was untying the Kashmiri Separatist and the reporter, they asked him - 'Why didn't you just shoot them all in the first place? Why did you ask him to punch him? 'Because' replied the soldier, 'if I had fired the First Shot, you two would have reported that I was the aggressor and the root cause of all the blood shedding in Kashmir !!' From Gen. VK SIngh's FB page.
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