coffee_rules Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 If we had played normally in the first test, instead of going for the unattainable win, we would still have a live series going into the fourth test. That was big brain fart of a brave act from Kohli. Hope he learns.
goose Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Kohli's approach in Adelaide ensured a timid declaration today which pretty much saved us, so no i don't think so.
peterparker Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 adelaide kind of performance happens in 1 out of 10 matches.
bulbul Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 We don't know saar...Things may not have turned exactly same as it did now.
Number Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Oh the criticism has started even before he has took over as regular captain. Welcome to captaincy Virat. :--D
Sidhoni Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Oh the criticism has started even before he has took over as regular captain. Welcome to captaincy Virat. :--D :hysterical: On topic, completely agree. Especially after the Vijay-Kohli partnership was broken or say Rahane got out they should have shut shop.
maniac Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 What are the odds that if we start winning now....people will say that DHoni has built and left Virat with a winning team :giggle:
maniac Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Love Kohli's in your face attitude but he needs to cut down the part where he yells at his own team mates.
coffee_rules Posted December 30, 2014 Author Posted December 30, 2014 We don't know saar...Things may not have turned exactly same as it did now. Suddenly, everybody is talking about how aggression is going to get us better results. Draw is a fair result in Test cricket. Especially if a test has close to 16 wkts fallen. Just because we tried to outbat Aus on a flat pitch, doesn't mean we always have to go for the win at all costs. In the first test, if we are behind, it is better to play out the 5th day. Probably after Saha had committed suicide. We had to bat 11 more overs in the end. It was not an unplayable pitch on 5th day. They were never going to declare, if they are leading the series already, as some expected Smith to do here in MCG,
coffee_rules Posted December 30, 2014 Author Posted December 30, 2014 Kohli's approach in Adelaide ensured a timid declaration today which pretty much saved us' date=' so no i don't think so.[/quote'] How do you know? MCG pitch was not a demon and better than Adelaide on the 5th day. Sporty declarations don't happen if they have lead already in the series. With one more to go, Smith would never done a timid declaration if they were 1-0 up in the series.
jf1gp_1 Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 There should be count down to see how long before fineleg creates a thread criticising kohlis captaincy.
bulbul Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Suddenly' date=' everybody is talking about how aggression is going to get us better results. Draw is a fair result in Test cricket. Especially if a test has close to 16 wkts fallen. Just because we tried to outbat Aus on a flat pitch, doesn't mean we always have to go for the win at all costs. In the first test, if we are behind, it is better to play out the 5th day. Probably after Saha had committed suicide. We had to bat 11 more overs in the end. It was not an unplayable pitch on 5th day. They were never going to declare, if they are leading the series already, as some expected Smith to do here in MCG,[/quote'] If we see the trend in whole series our tail hardly scores 30/40 runs, so once Saha got out there is no way we can just go for a draw. First test chasing decision is best way.
Kalia_Test Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 I think Kohli should be allowed to build his own legacy...if he wants aggression, then fine but I hope he does not bring disrepute to his nation with his antics... Welcome Kohli...wear the crown of thorns...the thorns whose edges have been blunted a bit by your illustrious predecessor...
maniac Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 If we see the trend in whole series our tail hardly scores 30/40 runs, so once Saha got out there is no way we can just go for a draw. First test chasing decision is best way. No it wasn't.....if you see how they started both Kohli and Vijay,they were playing for the draw initially and picking the ball on merit...once they got close,got well settled is when they started to keep the target in mind...which again was the right desicion. Bit once we lost a few quick wickets,it was time to shut shop.....Saha's brain fart was inexcusable.
bulbul Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 No it wasn't.....if you see how they started both Kohli and Vijay' date=they were playing for the draw initially and picking the ball on merit...once they got close,got well settled is when they started to keep the target in mind...which again was the right desicion. Bit once we lost a few quick wickets,it was time to shut shop.....Saha's brain fart was inexcusable. How do you know? Every chase need a platform, unless you have Sehwag in team. Its planned chase. They cannot chase from first ball without seeing how pitch behaves.
kubrickian Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 No it wasn't.....if you see how they started both Kohli and Vijay,they were playing for the draw initially and picking the ball on merit...once they got close,got well settled is when they started to keep the target in mind...which again was the right desicion. Bit once we lost a few quick wickets,it was time to shut shop.....Saha's brain fart was inexcusable. If they played it safe and played for a draw, then others would say its negative and defensive mentality. You cant win either way as Indian captain. I think it was the right decision to go for the win because you dont get too many chances to win a test in Australia. It was the first test of the series and Kohli's approach to try and win as long as he was at the crease was right. Saha and others should have played anchor but they didnt.
maniac Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 If they played it safe and played for a draw' date=' then others would say its negative and defensive mentality. You cant win either way as Indian captain.[/quote'] After Rohit Sharma's dismissal,given Saha's inexperience and our pathetic tail.....they should have shut shop and we all would have taken a draw. See Phialnder and Steyn's strategy vs India last year.....People had divided opinion on that but at the end of the day S.A did not lose...so no damage done. Hindsight is always 20-20 though
veer Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 I loved the way Kohli played.. it was never seen before counter attacking type of inning from an Indian player. However, I observed following things, which can be a distractor: He likes to stay in lime light all the time. And for that, he invites unnecessary fights and wasted energy.. On your face attitude is good at times but can go wrong if gone against the wrong player. Constantly looking at big screens to see how he looks He has ego which can create frictions in team..
Insidious Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Its baffling here, that some posters here believed that India lost in Adelaide because India went for win. who went for win? Have you seen strike rates of pujara and Vijay?In 40s and 50s. These are pretty normal that doesn't suggest that they gone for win. It was kohli and only kohli who gone for win, with an unbelivable S/R. And except Kohli and Saha, others played normally.
Insidious Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 After Rohit Sharma's dismissal,given Saha's inexperience and our pathetic tail.....they should have shut shop and we all would have taken a draw. See Phialnder and Steyn's strategy vs India last year.....People had divided opinion on that but at the end of the day S.A did not lose...so no damage done. Hindsight is always 20-20 though Philander and steyn case was another thing bcoz there was NOTHING in the pitch. The 5th day Adelaide was quite close to a rank turner. There was no Dhoni or Ashwin. After Rohit Sharma dissimal, we didn't had anyone who could even block. The only chance was kohli to throw Lyon out of the attack by smashing him, and forcing Australia to go defensive. Unfortunately that didn't happen.
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