South_Paw Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 But again we always have a soft corner towards SA. May be that's preventing us from deeming them as Chokers again. If this would have been the case with Arrogant Aussies, the whole world would have blown their a*s out calling by calling them as Chokers.
someone Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 This South Africa is becoming like the Spain football team pre 2008. Both teams had a lot of talent but a bit of luck, bit of bad referee decisions, and some choking that prevented them from succeeding. However like Spain, South Africa is bound to win a trophy soon and that might just result in domination like Spain had for some years.
CSK Fan Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 This is one of the definition http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/choke [NO OBJECT] informal (In sports) fail to perform at a crucial point of a game or contest as a result of nervousness: So no, doesn't have to be from a winning position. Gibbs drop catch is a classic example of choke. So is Dnald's run out. Neither of them where from great positions, they were errors during crucial stages of the matc
vvvslaxman Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Let us not get all technical. There was a massive drop in fielding standard towards the end. Utter chaos. With 24 runs to get in 2 overs with just 3 wickets in the hand, batsmen is more likely to be under pressure than bowlers. But entire SA was under pressure while Vettori coolly ran byes and placed ball for 4.. Vettori held his nerve brilliantly without wild slogging.
rkt.india Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 If every missed chance is called choking then lets hope India don't miss any chance otherwise you will tell India choked in their SF too. India choked so many times against WI. They dropped 4-5 catches in that game.
profster Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Let us not get all technical. There was a massive drop in fielding standard towards the end. Utter chaos. With 24 runs to get in 2 overs with just 3 wickets in the hand' date=' batsmen is more likely to be under pressure than bowlers. But entire SA was under pressure while Vettori coolly ran byes and placed ball for 4.. Vettori held his nerve brilliantly without wild slogging.[/quote'] This!
rkt.india Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 SA won 2/5 tough matches this WC. Won against WI and SL' date=' but lost to India, Pak and NZ. Imagine a bilateral - does this happen to SA normally? I think they do choke collectively in big tournaments. Amla and AB, #1 and #2 ranked players in both formats, Steyn #1 and #2 bowler in tests and ODIs. #1 spinner Tahir in their ranks. Still they managed to win 2/5 tough matches. If this is not choking, what else is?[/quote'] Winning at home is different than winning overseas. With your argument, India choking in every overseas series because we win most matches at home.
rkt.india Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 De Kock alone fumbled 3 run outs. First without even collecting knocked the bails off. THen two byes.. he had all 3 stumps in vision . He was not even close to the stumps. Its not easy for WK to throw with gloves standing 20 yards back. Lot of times WK misses them.
rkt.india Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Still your premiere bowlers should have been able to defend 24 runs in 2 overs.. There was a drop catch as well. 24 in 12 overs is nothing these days especially on that tiny ground and 4 fielders inside.
vvvslaxman Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Its not easy for WK to throw with gloves standing 20 yards back. Lot of times WK misses them. With 3 stumps to aim at you don't miss by that big. That is criminal Also another run out was he knocked the bails off before collecting the ball. He showed lot of nerves behind the stumps
Stuge Posted March 24, 2015 Author Posted March 24, 2015 Stupid thread. This was a great game. NZ got lucky. And stupid post to call other team being lucky to win...lol Too many people here had their money on SAF lol.
rkt.india Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Let us not get all technical. There was a massive drop in fielding standard towards the end. Utter chaos. With 24 runs to get in 2 overs with just 3 wickets in the hand' date=' batsmen is more likely to be under pressure than bowlers. But entire SA was under pressure while Vettori coolly ran byes and placed ball for 4.. Vettori held his nerve brilliantly without wild slogging.[/quote'] NZ also dropped 4 catches, did they also choke.
vvvslaxman Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 24 in 12 overs is nothing these days especially on that tiny ground and 4 fielders inside. Hmm. don't think so. One of the batsman is just in. All you have to do is keep him on strike. Remember how SA lost to Pakistan when Amla was there they ahd like 12 to get in 2 overs?
vvvslaxman Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 NZ also dropped 4 catches' date=' did they also choke.[/quote'] Massive difference in sitautions. NZ dropped very early.. They had time to come back. If you drop in the end you can't come back.
vijay50 Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 This South Africa is becoming like the Spain football team pre 2008. Both teams had a lot of talent but a bit of luck, bit of bad referee decisions, and some choking that prevented them from succeeding. However like Spain, South Africa is bound to win a trophy soon and that might just result in domination like Spain had for some years. They can win Champions trophy. But oh oh, knock-outs are there even in Champions trophy which can choke the SA. :hysterical:.May be they will win cycle agarbathi trophy.
addicted4444 Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Stupid thread. This was a great game. NZ got lucky. The 1999 Aus-SA is widely considered the greatest ODI. Are you telling me that wasn't a choke either :ohmy:
South_Paw Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 The 1999 Aus-SA is widely considered the greatest ODI greatest ODI Choke. Are you telling me that wasn't a choke either :ohmy: Corrected
adi B Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 NZ also dropped 4 catches' date=' did they also choke.[/quote'] most were very difficult chances unlike the saf ones.see people remember the 'chokes' more vividly when the team loses.did nzl lose?did india lose when they dropped 4-5 catches against windies? saf choked in the field today,period.i would have said this for any team(barring pakistan coz they are a sh1t fielding side) had they missed so many great chances to close out the match,its not that i am targeting saf only
zen Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 From what I am reading about choking here - Dhoni, the captain cool choked too vs. Zim/Ire where he missed some chances :giggle:
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