express bowling Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) 16 hours ago, gattaca said: Gupta bhai @MCcricket has hyped a fast bowler from Rajasthan as well pankaj Singh who took loads of wickets in Ranji. I thought he was the best fast bowler in India at that time. He bowled horribly in England on a green wicket. Swing was his strength but he failed horribly. I am not saying did the wrong thing in hyping. Pankaj's stats were really good as well. There is a difference between pointing out the potential of a player and hyping him ( like if someone says that Rohit will be the next Bradman at test level ). All players with potential won't succeed in international cricket. In fact, way more players fail than those who are successful. Reasons would include lack of temperament, loss of focus, injury, lack of stamina or fitness etc. But, until you try players with potential in international cricket, there is no way of knowing whether they are good enough. Pankaj Singh started off as a medium paced swing bowler and worked hard to become a fast-medium pacer. Developed a decent bouncer too. Still retained the ability to swing the ball, was reasonably accurate, was very tall at 6'6" and had loads of domestic experience. The main problem he displayed, while playing in England, was that he ran out of steam after his first rather quickish spell and was trundling for the rest of the day. Otherwise, just 2 test matches are not sufficient to dub a player as a failure. He was definitely a pacer who deserved to be tried at test level. Why would the selectors not even try a 6'6" , accurate , fast-medium swing bowler with great FC stats ? Edited August 27, 2016 by express bowling tweaker and MCcricket 2
rkt.india Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 problem with Pankaj was he lacked the zip of the pitch. dont know why but he always looked slower than the speed gun readings.
gakgupta Posted August 27, 2016 Author Posted August 27, 2016 There is a difference between pointing out the potential of a player and hyping him ( like if someone says that Rohit will be the next Bradman at test level ). All players with potential won't succeed in international cricket. In fact, way more players fail than those who are successful. Reasons would include lack of temperament, loss of focus, injury, lack of stamina or fitness etc. But, until you try players with potential in international cricket, there is no way of knowing whether they are good enough. Pankaj Singh's started off as a medium paced swing bowler and worked hard to become a fast-medium pacer. Developed a decent bouncer too. Still retained the ability to swing the ball, was reasonably accurate, was very tall at 6'6" and had loads of domestic experience. The main problem he displayed, while playing in England, was that he ran out of steam after his first rather quickish spell and was trundling for the rest of the day. Otherwise, just 2 test matches are not sufficient to dub a player as a failure. He was definitely a pacer who deserved to be tried at test level. Why would the selectors not even try a 6'6" , accurate , fast-medium swing bowler with great FC stats ? I personally thought pankaj was very good.....just 2 matches was very little sample to judge a bowler... Even the commentators were surprised that India has such talent His only issue was he played for Rajasthan Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk tweaker and MCcricket 2
MCcricket Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 16 hours ago, gattaca said: Gupta bhai @MCcricket has hyped a fast bowler from Rajasthan as well pankaj Singh who took loads of wickets in Ranji. I thought he was the best fast bowler in India at that time. He bowled horribly in England on a green wicket. Swing was his strength but he failed horribly. I am not saying did the wrong thing in hyping. Pankaj's stats were really good as well. Pankaj was dealt badly by selectors, he is better the Ishant anyday, being from Rajasthan n after 5 years of topping domestic cricket he gets two tests where he does ok and is talked about as being good n then ignored, he moved the ball quite well and bowled similar pace to Ishant, he was ignored when he was fit n bowling at 26 years tweaker 1
express bowling Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) 47 minutes ago, rkt.india said: problem with Pankaj was he lacked the zip of the pitch. dont know why but he always looked slower than the speed gun readings. Yes...he lacked zip off the deck. His deliveries must have slowed down after pitching , more than it usually does for international level fast bowlers. Roughly speaking, a 140 k release speed delivery reaches a batsman at 120 k to 105 k depending on the pitch and the bowler. He must have been close to that 105 k range. Edited August 27, 2016 by express bowling tweaker 1
Vilander Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 9 hours ago, renjith said: Stats is only one of the criteria for judging quality. There are so many other factors. You can try to get some details on pragmatic selections policies. I am saying give some credence to your statement, like say you could argue that stats is relevant only when the quality of opposition is the same --> that would mean you compare pak/sl/ind bowlers against particular opponent only, you could say stats against a particular opponent in a particular location only matters --> that would mean you compare pak/sl/ind bowlers against a particular opponent in a particular country. bah i loose patience with you, thoughtful readers evaluate the generalization with facts and statements in any written comment, they form opinions and judgement on the posters comments thus. You make generalized cliched statements, your limited ability on display here to think and write about cricket does not encourage me to continue this conversation basically.
Vilander Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 6 hours ago, MultiB48 said: pankaj didnt look that bad .just 2 failed inngs and thats it ,others keep getting chances galore yup he was evidently unlucky in one of them, but it was a spectacular failure though, one could feel bad for him. I remeber a Jarod Kimber piece on this as well.
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now