express bowling Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) For T20Is and even for ODIs maybe --- Rahul Rohit Kohli Dhoni Pant Hooda Krunal / Axar Hardik Ashwin Bhuvi / Sran Bumrah Umesh for ODIs as backup to Bhuvi - will give us 4 high SR lower-middle order batters - Will give us 6 bowling options including 3 seamers - Top 3 high SR top-order batters Edited November 20, 2016 by express bowling
rkt.india Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 16 minutes ago, express bowling said: For T20Is and even for ODIs maybe --- Rahul Rohit Kohli Dhoni Pant Hooda Krunal / Axar Hardik Ashwin Bhuvi / Sran Bumrah Umesh for ODIs as backup to Bhuvi - will give us 4 high SR lower-middle order batters - Will give us 6 bowling options including 3 seamers - Top 3 high SR top order batters I would like Pant open the innings. Rahul can bat at 4 and is good enough to do that like he did against WI in T20s and ODIs.
express bowling Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 19 minutes ago, rkt.india said: I would like Pant open the innings. Rahul can bat at 4 and is good enough to do that like he did against WI in T20s and ODIs. Dhoni has said that he will bat at No.4 as it suits him better. That means Rahul at No.5...which I feel is too low for him. Also, it is better to let Pant get acclimatized to international pace while batting at No.5. He can open after a year if he shapes up well.
rkt.india Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 45 minutes ago, express bowling said: Dhoni has said that he will bat at No.4 as it suits him better. That means Rahul at No.5...which I feel is too low for him. Also, it is better to let Pant get acclimatized to international pace while batting at No.5. He can open after a year if he shapes up well. I am talking about T20s. For ODIs, Dhawan is still pretty good. Dhoni is useless in T20s whether he bats 4 or 5.
express bowling Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, rkt.india said: I am talking about T20s. For ODIs, Dhawan is still pretty good. Dhoni is useless in T20s whether he bats 4 or 5. But he will play as the captain. Both Rohit and Dhawan are good in ODIs but none of the 2 are explosive starters. We often end up performing below par by today's ODI standards in the first 7 to 10 overs. Edited November 20, 2016 by express bowling Ankit_sharma03 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 59 minutes ago, express bowling said: But he will play as the captain. Both Rohit and Dhawan are good in ODIs but none of the 2 are explosive starters. We often end up performing below par by today's ODI standards in the first 7 to 10 overs. With Rohit injured Dhawan vs Rahul debate of opening might end this Odi series as they both wud open and have chance The only problem that might force the team to bat rahul in middle is failure of Pandey. If pandey fails and dhawan score rahul wud go to middle order. About Pant lets try him in t20s 1st as opener in Ind vs eng t20 series, as rohit is injured and dhawan n rahane are pure shit in T20 Whats good for the team is we have someone who uses powerplay as rohit, dhawan takes their own time. But a batsman in middle order is also needed. So its really important that Manish pandey comes good and also deepak hooda whenever he gets a chance. express bowling and sandeep 2
rkt.india Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: With Rohit injured Dhawan vs Rahul debate of opening might end this Odi series as they both wud open and have chance The only problem that might force the team to bat rahul in middle is failure of Pandey. If pandey fails and dhawan score rahul wud go to middle order. About Pant lets try him in t20s 1st as opener in Ind vs eng t20 series, as rohit is injured and dhawan n rahane are pure shit in T20 Whats good for the team is we have someone who uses powerplay as rohit, dhawan takes their own time. But a batsman in middle order is also needed. So its really important that Manish pandey comes good and also deepak hooda whenever he gets a chance. Pandey will bat at 6. Dhoni 5, Rahul 4, Rahane will open with Dhawan.
express bowling Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: Pandey will bat at 6. Dhoni 5, Rahul 4, Rahane will open with Dhawan. Then who will be our part-time bowler ?
rkt.india Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, express bowling said: Then who will be our part-time bowler ? for that Rahane will have to sit out or will pandey be dropped. Though I dont see Jadhav getting another game. He only played against NZ because Rahul was injured. You wont play him just because he can bowl part time. Edited November 20, 2016 by rkt.india
express bowling Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 11 minutes ago, rkt.india said: for that Rahane will have to sit out or will pandey be dropped. Though I dont see Jadhav getting another game. He only played against NZ because Rahul was injured. You wont play him just because he can bowl part time. I got the feeling that the team was trying to groom Jadhav as the No.6. Until we take guys like Pant, Hooda etc....he is our finisher. Rahane should be dropped. sandeep and tweaker 2
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 18 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Pandey will bat at 6. Dhoni 5, Rahul 4, Rahane will open with Dhawan. Why would rahane play after such poor series. Dhoni wont go without 6th bowler as he has talked about the importance of it so many times And i dnt see jadhav getting dropped. Infact m pretty certain just to have that batsman who can bowl part times- raina, hooda and yuvraj (1,2 among them would surely be selected) Rahane wnt be in 11. 13 minutes ago, rkt.india said: for that Rahane will have to sit out or will pandey be dropped. Though I dont see Jadhav getting another game. He only played against NZ because Rahul was injured. You wont play him just because he can bowl part time. Jadhav hasnt done to bad either to be dropped to. If we have to play pandya as 5th bowler we need that 6th bowler from somewere. Jadhav, raina, hooda, yuvraj .....someone would definitely play tweaker 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 1 minute ago, express bowling said: I got the feeling that the team was trying to groom Jadhav as the No.6. Until we take guys like Pant, Hooda etc....he is our finisher. Rahane should be dropped. Either One of hooda or yuvraj would get selected this Odi series, specially since kumble asked yuvraj to also report to NCA with gambhir. Depending how their remaining matches go one of them would most certainely get selected tweaker 1
express bowling Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Either One of hooda or yuvraj would get selected this Odi series, specially since kumble asked yuvraj to also report to NCA with gambhir. Depending how their remaining matches go one of them would most certainely get selected Let's see. Yuvraj would be a step backward like the Gambhir experiment. Don't think he retains the reflexes to hit genuine pace ...like he did between 2000 and 2011. sandeep 1
express bowling Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 With an eye to the future and based on current form and in an attempt to include new-age big hitters...I feel Hooda is our best bet as big-hitter/ part-time spinner.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: Let's see. Yuvraj would be a step backward like the Gambhir experiment. Don't think he retains the reflexes to hit genuine pace ...like he did between 2000 and 2011. True, m not in favour it but then cant be certain about his failure to . But we know he would make that last come back specially now that he has piled on runs in domestic. Deepak hooda should ask his team to give him more bowling so he can add wkts to his tally and increase his chance . I dnt knw why he has started to bowl so less. express bowling 1
rkt.india Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, express bowling said: I got the feeling that the team was trying to groom Jadhav as the No.6. Until we take guys like Pant, Hooda etc....he is our finisher. Rahane should be dropped. Jadhav cant be our #6, just not good enough for that position. I think they are grooming Axar more than anyone. Edited November 20, 2016 by rkt.india
ShebbySB Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 On 10/19/2016 at 10:21 PM, maniac said: I think finally we need to give up on Irfan Pathan....even 2 years back I still had some hopes for him but I think water has passed under that bridge However here are some other names that I think that have hopes of a renaissance and it will be sad if their careers are over. Jesse Ryder-New Zealand.....one of the most talented cricketers I have seen..Big fan....sad what has become of him Varun Aaron-India-career getting wasted away....needs to be in the scheme of things fast Andre Russell-Westindies-Why is this guy a T20 expert....he needs to play every WI Test and ODI games....Yes I realize all those crappy WI board politics and inefficiency.....we are losing out on a once in a generation kind of cricketer. Alex Hales-England-Still a Regular in the ODI squad but test career over for now....still think he has it in him to become a good test cricketer...with Billings and Duckett breathing down his neck...he might soon lose his spot across all formats. Yusuf Pathan-Needs to be in every T20I line up we field for the next few years at least The Australian fast bowling talent-Pattinson and Cummins etc etc-I beleive they are always injured.....they will only get match fit by actually playing a lot more games...I think Aussies have been over-cautious with them in playing them in ODI's and T20I's....play them in some meaningless bilaterals too Ishant Sharma in LOI's- The guy has a gun average and strike rate in LOI's.....right now will find it tough to break in but should be played as a back up seasoned bowler...Right now are Top 3 ODI bowlers are Shami,Umesh,Bhuvi with Pandya being the back up and then it is sad to see Dhawal etc in the next category..Sran is fine though....no way......Ishant over all these backup options 9/10 times. Adam Milne-Why is he not playing a lot lot more? Ravi Bopara-Pure Class...why isn't he playing a lot more too....I think he will fix the England middle order crisis Any more names to add? Bumrah is our no.1 LOI bowler.
express bowling Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Jadhav cant be our #6, just not good enough for that position. I think they are grooming Axar more than anyone. Grooming Axar for no.7 i think. We need to bring in Hooda and Pant.
rkt.india Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 We need to groom Hardik Pandya as a finisher at 6 and not Jadhav. We cannot have him bat in last 5. Purpose is lost if you do not play him in top 6 or at least 7. This way, we can play 3 semears and 3 spinners in India, Pandya being the third seamer and could include both Axar and Jaddu or someone like Krunal Pandya as 3rd spinner in the future. I would like this team for T20s played in India in the future. Pant Rohit Kohli Rahul Dhoni H Pandya K Pandya Axar Ashwin Bumrah B o o b y Mosher 1
Sidhoni Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 Sran should be given more chances, might be a better option than Umesh for LOIs.
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