India vs Pakistan ICC WC 2019 match on June 16

[Khota]

Why is India grouped with Pakistan?

[cric_fan]

Why is India grouped with Pakistan?

Before you throw a hissy fit- It’s a round robin. Every team plays eachother. Now calm down

[Gollum]

However much I dislike Dhoni, he at least put Pak in their place in these world events. Only once did he captain us to a loss (CT 2009) but that was partly due to an umpiring error against Raina which effed up our chase. MSD had nerves of steel and Indo-Pak matches are played 80% in the mind and only 20% on the field. It all boils down to that and I won't trust a headcase like Kohli to keep his mind in control,  the minute things go awry the obnoxious knob will start flapping his hands like a retard chicken and make funny faces whilst abusing all and sundry, literally zero leadership for the group in such situations......

 

The legendary Polish chess GM Tartakower once said "Tactics is what you do when there is something to do, strategy is what you do when there is nothing to do". Same funda applies to cricket: White ball cricket is all about the former, test cricket is mostly strategy. Dhoni is a gifted tactician, Kohli is a better strategist hence a better test captain. It was a mistake by BCCI to make Kohli ODI/T20 captain because tactics is the soul of white ball cricket and unfortunately our hero is a big zero in this department, is it a coincidence or bad luck that he is yet to win a single IPL trophy with a gun team after so many attempts? Answer is a resounding NO... It is more or less given that we aren't winning the 2019 edition under Kohli but the least we can hope is a SF spot and win against Pak. If he can't even deliver that his stint will be confined to the dustbin, FFS even Azhar has a 3-0 record against Pak in WCs, that too against gun teams led by stalwarts like Imran and Wasim...this Pak whilst not exactly rubbish still doesn't have the quality 90s Pak had. It is beyond Kohli to match Dhoni's 2011 and 2015 leadership, this edition will tell us whether he is at least comparable to Azhar or not. 

[Khota]

5 hours ago, cric_fan said:

 

Before you throw a hissy fit- It’s a round robin. Every team plays eachother. Now calm down

 

Just a question. Far from hissy fit.

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 hours ago, Gollum said:

However much I dislike Dhoni, he at least put Pak in their place in these world events. Only once did he captain us to a loss (CT 2009) but that was partly due to an umpiring error against Raina which effed up our chase. MSD had nerves of steel and Indo-Pak matches are played 80% in the mind and only 20% on the field. It all boils down to that and I won't trust a headcase like Kohli to keep his mind in control,  the minute things go awry the obnoxious knob will start flapping his hands like a retard chicken and make funny faces whilst abusing all and sundry, literally zero leadership for the group in such situations......

I have the same fear, specially if its a knock out game.

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

11 hours ago, Khota said:

Why is India grouped with Pakistan?

so that one ind-pak clash is confirmed n everyone can make money out of it . Kya pata kuch 2007 Wc jaisa ho jaye , dono pehle round se ghar wapis 

Ind-pak wc game is box office for every one.

[Ankit_sharma03]

On 4/24/2018 at 10:31 PM, Gollum said:

Hope we have a decent captain instead of that peacenik buffoon Kohli.

cant change captain now, to late 

Wud be unfair on new captain

[Ellipsism]

It’s going to be a walk in the park for India. If they survive the two threatening overs Amir bowls every game then a victory is set in stone. 

[Ellipsism]

30 minutes ago, BeardedAladdin said:

Pakistan winning the champions trophy was the worst thing that could have happened to them.

 

Now they'll go into the world cup with huge expectation and pressure. People will expect them to repeat the Champions trophy victory. Same thing is true for the India game. People will expect pakistan to smash india like they did in the CT final.

 

I have never seen a pakistani team play well in a big tournament when it's expected of them. They never do well when they're favorites. All their greatest victories were achieved when people had given up on them, and they had nothing to lose.

 

Past can't always predict the future, but for pakistan to win the world cup - or even reach the semis - they'll have to make history.

Yeah exactly. That’s why I get the sense we might pull off something against SA or England this year. 

 

In in terms of the WC it’ll take a miracle for us to progress past the group stages.

[Ellipsism]

9 minutes ago, BeardedAladdin said:

Are those test matches? If so, its unlikely.

 

In test matches, it's difficult - at times impossible - to win without experience. Especially away from home. Players need a certain number of games in those conditions before they're confident.

 

In ODIs, you can definitely win with a young team.

Yeah. We did it against England when expectations were real low. Our test team is young which after years of watching the likes of Misbah and Younus dance around in foreign conditions is a pleasant sight. Some real good players but the experience is almost non existent, 10 of the 16 member squad have played less than 10 test test matches of which 4 are yet to make their debut; but you never know with Pakistan lol.

 

Here’s the squad selected to play against England and Ireland:

 

Sarfraz Ahmed (cap &wk), Azhar Ali, Imam-ul-Haq, Sami Aslam, Haris Sohail, Babar Azam, Fakhar Zaman, Saad Ali, Asad Shafiq, Usman Salahuddin, Shadab Khan, Mohammad Amir, Mohammad Abbas, Hasan Ali, Rahat Ali, Faheem Ashraf 

 

 

Edited April 26, 2018 by Ellipsism

[Khota]

5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

so that one ind-pak clash is confirmed n everyone can make money out of it . Kya pata kuch 2007 Wc jaisa ho jaye , dono pehle round se ghar wapis 

Ind-pak wc game is box office for every one.

I know it is all about money but really India should play pakistan as little as possible. They always bring their A+ game and India sometimes is not motivated enough. Kohli should be stripped of the captaincy for the CT loss.

[Khota]

3 hours ago, Ellipsism said:

Yeah. We did it against England when expectations were real low. Our test team is young which after years of watching the likes of Misbah and Younus dance around in foreign conditions is a pleasant sight. Some real good players but the experience is almost non existent, 10 of the 16 member squad have played less than 10 test test matches of which 4 are yet to make their debut; but you never know with Pakistan lol.

 

Here’s the squad selected to play against England and Ireland:

 

Sarfraz Ahmed (cap &wk), Azhar Ali, Imam-ul-Haq, Sami Aslam, Haris Sohail, Babar Azam, Fakhar Zaman, Saad Ali, Asad Shafiq, Usman Salahuddin, Shadab Khan, Mohammad Amir, Mohammad Abbas, Hasan Ali, Rahat Ali, Faheem Ashraf 

 

 

England is a poor team. You should be able to beat them.

[kira]

Just now, Khota said:

England is a poor team. You should be able to beat them.

Pakistan is even more poor than england, these phateechars got their a$$es handed to them by lankans in their own backyard, ghar mein ghus ke phainta maara tha lanka ne  This phateechar team won't even come close to winning anything in England

[kira]

3 hours ago, Ellipsism said:

Yeah. We did it against England when expectations were real low. Our test team is young which after years of watching the likes of Misbah and Younus dance around in foreign conditions is a pleasant sight. Some real good players but the experience is almost non existent, 10 of the 16 member squad have played less than 10 test test matches of which 4 are yet to make their debut; but you never know with Pakistan lol.

 

Here’s the squad selected to play against England and Ireland:

 

Sarfraz Ahmed (cap &wk), Azhar Ali, Imam-ul-Haq, Sami Aslam, Haris Sohail, Babar Azam, Fakhar Zaman, Saad Ali, Asad Shafiq, Usman Salahuddin, Shadab Khan, Mohammad Amir, Mohammad Abbas, Hasan Ali, Rahat Ali, Faheem Ashraf 

 

 

Experience doesn't matter when you don't have any talent, a fatso is leading your team, he's a walking talking embarrasment

[Khota]

5 hours ago, Ellipsism said:

It’s going to be a walk in the park for India. If they survive the two threatening overs Amir bowls every game then a victory is set in stone. 

No game is ever a walk in the park at that level. All I can say with certainity is that if India brings their A game to the table the odds are they should win. 

[Austin 3:!6]

Hope its not on the Royal Ascot day. I will be in a dilemma whether to be in Manchester or Ascot.

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, Khota said:

I know it is all about money but really India should play pakistan as little as possible. They always bring their A+ game and India sometimes is not motivated enough. Kohli should be stripped of the captaincy for the CT loss.

till now against india its pakistan who have lost the battle of nerves in Wc

[Khota]

5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

till now against india its pakistan who have lost the battle of nerves in Wc

Well last CT which was the better team? So far India has done well but should not have lost to that poor Pakistani team.

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, Khota said:

Well last CT which was the better team? So far India has done well but should not have lost to that poor Pakistani team.

that was CT m talking about WC, pak also won in 2009 CT

but yet to win against us in WC

[Khota]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

that was CT m talking about WC, pak also won in 2009 CT

but yet to win against us in WC

My concern was that moron Kohli after the SL game failed to see what was going on and make any adjustments. Did not change anything and cost the CT.