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By the way, why the f are we still investing in Axar Patel, the panauti of panautis? Is being taken to cleaners by Dhoni against CSK the only reason for his selection? He is the most talentless cricketer we ever produced. Even MSK Prasad, Noel David, and Ashish Kapoor had more talent than him :wall:

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1 hour ago, Sandeep99 said:

Saini's yorker to Dowrich is one for the ages. To make a good batsman look like a tailender is something to be proud about. Khaleel and Sainai are surely the finds of this tour. The hostility in their bowling is really awesome to watch for a viewer. But we can be sure they won't be given chances as Indian team management will be looking to give more overs to Bhuvi and Shami as they 'need confidence back' after the world cup :facepalm::whack3:

 

India A's batting has been thoroughly deplorable though. Apart from Gaekwad and Gill, none of the other batsmen look the part to step up to Indian team. Watching Manish Pandey can be made an official punishment for the most heinous crimes. Vihari looks alright. Iyer will not come good even if chances are given to him. But I can safely bet both Iyer and Pandey will be selected in the Indian squad so that Ravi Bombay Shastri and Virat Basket case Kohli can be satisfied. :wall:

Woah man r u for real..  Iyer scored a match winning 77 last ODI when all others fell like pack of cards..  One failure doesn't mean he is not good enough. Even Gill & Gaikwad failed in 1st ODI. Manish Pandey is useless can't believe why he is given so many chances in IND A when they know he will fail on big stage. 

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9 hours ago, prudent_kreeda said:

We need to lower our expectation. They will get hammered in death overs along the way. Let's just take it in our chin and hope they will tighten up their death bowling further. 

Real test is against better power hitters.

Today, everyone gets hit by power hitters. Rabada was a flop in the WC, Archer got tonked for 15 yesterday and Starc went for 73 against us. 

 

Just because they may get hit is no reason to call them average or below average when even the very best are leaking runs. 

 

No more testing Saini. If he is bowling 150+, he should be in the team over Bhuvi or Shami. Period.

 

There are maybe 8-10 bowlers in the world ATM bowling at that pace, why should we waste him on these "A" matches. But guess what, that's exactly what we'll do and then bring him in when he is hurt or post injury, bowling in low 140s and claim he was never any good. 

 

Stupid Indian selectors.

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11 hours ago, urnotserious said:

Today, everyone gets hit by power hitters. Rabada was a flop in the WC, Archer got tonked for 15 yesterday and Starc went for 73 against us. 

 

Just because they may get hit is no reason to call them average or below average when even the very best are leaking runs. 

 

No more testing Saini. If he is bowling 150+, he should be in the team over Bhuvi or Shami. Period.

 

There are maybe 8-10 bowlers in the world ATM bowling at that pace, why should we waste him on these "A" matches. But guess what, that's exactly what we'll do and then bring him in when he is hurt or post injury, bowling in low 140s and claim he was never any good. 

 

Stupid Indian selectors.

 

11 hours ago, urnotserious said:

Today, everyone gets hit by power hitters. Rabada was a flop in the WC, Archer got tonked for 15 yesterday and Starc went for 73 against us. 

 

Just because they may get hit is no reason to call them average or below average when even the very best are leaking runs. 

 

No more testing Saini. If he is bowling 150+, he should be in the team over Bhuvi or Shami. Period.

 

There are maybe 8-10 bowlers in the world ATM bowling at that pace, why should we waste him on these "A" matches. But guess what, that's exactly what we'll do and then bring him in when he is hurt or post injury, bowling in low 140s and claim he was never any good. 

 

Stupid Indian selectors.

Never said do not select but do not go overboard like out of this world ..  like stuff based on this opposition. Both will have to learn quite a bit before we say ... Out of this world. We also need to check how quality players work against same short rising ball like aus. Eng players before going overboard. Also need to check what options they have if batters attack their this stock ball the short rising ball ?

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The main thing I look for in any fast bowler, new or old, is ... whether he is combining pace and bounce with accuracy.

 

As long as he is doing this ... that is, a quick bowler is not dropping pace or not just floating the ball up or not spraying the ball ... I am happy.

 

If he does any of these then whether he gets hit or not or ends ups getting some fluke wickets ... I would be unhappy.

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37 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

so far of the 2 televised matches , only Gaikwad & Gill looked good among batters . 

 

  I was thinking Vihari could be that one of top 6 main batsmen who can bowl 3-4 overs of spin. 

  But looking at his innings he does not seem to have the game where he can change gears . 

  I think  he could be a non-starter for that position by the looks of it. 

Lets see.

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4 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

  I was thinking Vihari could be that one of top 6 main batsmen who can bowl 3-4 overs of spin. 

  But looking at his innings he does not seem to have the game where he can change gears . 

  I think  he could be a non-starter for that position by the looks of it. 

Lets see.

Exactly..  Selectors should've picked Nitish Rana who at least is a big hitter & can bowl spin. 

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7 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

  I was thinking Vihari could be that one of top 6 main batsmen who can bowl 3-4 overs of spin. 

  But looking at his innings he does not seem to have the game where he can change gears . 

  I think  he could be a non-starter for that position by the looks of it. 

Lets see.

Though he is organized, he has a problem dealing with short-pitched stuff. Will be hard for him to be successful at the Intl level.

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5 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Exactly..  Selectors should've picked Nitish Rana who at least is a big hitter & can bowl spin. 

Nitish Rana is an astonishing hitter. He hits better than Pant and he is no slogger. Worth a gamble to test him in internationals. We desperately need a hitter in the middle order.

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34 minutes ago, nitinbwj said:

Nitish Rana is an astonishing hitter. He hits better than Pant and he is no slogger. Worth a gamble to test him in internationals. We desperately need a hitter in the middle order.

He has a huge short ball problem.

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43 minutes ago, nitinbwj said:

Nitish Rana is an astonishing hitter. He hits better than Pant and he is no slogger. Worth a gamble to test him in internationals. We desperately need a hitter in the middle order.

I agree...  That boy has muscle as well as decent strike rotation game plus a left hander which we desperately need in middle order. 

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48 minutes ago, nitinbwj said:

Nitish Rana is an astonishing hitter. He hits better than Pant and he is no slogger. Worth a gamble to test him in internationals. We desperately need a hitter in the middle order.

 

56 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Exactly..  Selectors should've picked Nitish Rana who at least is a big hitter & can bowl spin. 

 

13 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

He has a huge short ball problem.

Agreed! Glaring problem with short balls. And also is an inferior shot maker compared to Pant and Pandya. The lesser said about his bowling, the better.

 

Don't think we have anyone better than Jadeja for the role atm. Krunal, Axar and Sundar are all inferior options atm.

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21 hours ago, urnotserious said:

Today, everyone gets hit by power hitters. Rabada was a flop in the WC, Archer got tonked for 15 yesterday and Starc went for 73 against us. 

 

Just because they may get hit is no reason to call them average or below average when even the very best are leaking runs. 

 

No more testing Saini. If he is bowling 150+, he should be in the team over Bhuvi or Shami. Period.

 

There are maybe 8-10 bowlers in the world ATM bowling at that pace, why should we waste him on these "A" matches. But guess what, that's exactly what we'll do and then bring him in when he is hurt or post injury, bowling in low 140s and claim he was never any good. 

 

Stupid Indian selectors.

Sorry, but he needs to toil for a couple of more years in domestics.  Then, he should be introduced into the team on absolute road pitches as part of a character building process.  Then, when he gets thrashed, he can be anointed as another failure and discarded.  It worked for Siraj, Pankaj Singh and many other fast bowlers.  

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40 minutes ago, ExtremeBrainfade said:

Sorry, but he needs to toil for a couple of more years in domestics.  Then, he should be introduced into the team on absolute road pitches as part of a character building process.  Then, when he gets thrashed, he can be anointed as another failure and discarded.  It worked for Siraj, Pankaj Singh and many other fast bowlers.  

LOL. I get your sarcasm but Saini is different than any and all fast bowlers that we've had. He is about 10 km/h faster than any you've mentioned. Consistently. 

 

If there was ever a case for a bowler to be fast tracked in India, this is it. 

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41 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Avesh traps the batter LBW with a really quick ball that seams in.  He has looked sharp.

 

How does he get to warm the benches while trundler D.Chahar plays all the games. !!

exactly,guys who have no future for the senior team should not be selected for the A teams.

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2 hours ago, express bowling said:

Avesh traps the batter LBW with a really quick ball that seams in.  He has looked sharp.

 

How does he get to warm the benches while trundler D.Chahar plays all the games. !!

Answer: the Dhoni effect, whereby the selection of half-assed trundlers who are "accurate" (which they are not) over genuine pace bowlers with potential is favored.

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Avesh bowled well today, Saini was a bit off. Comfortable win for India. They are not getting tested in this series at all. India A needs to visit SENA countries to be more effective than these tours.


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7 hours ago, urnotserious said:

LOL. I get your sarcasm but Saini is different than any and all fast bowlers that we've had. He is about 10 km/h faster than any you've mentioned. Consistently. 

 

If there was ever a case for a bowler to be fast tracked in India, this is it. 

Fast tracked? He is already playing FC cricket for last 5 years, India A 2 years. It's not fast tracked. Fast tracked was Khaleel, already played for India at 21 without much FC experience.

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