Karan114 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 gives me sreesanth vibes TBH (not a bad thing) Maybe not for you, but I doubt Aaron or any other cricketer would like to be compared with a lying, cheating, filthy piece of **** who was sent to prison like that little scumbag Sreesanth. Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 There has been criticism that he picked only one wicket.Give him a break.He is coming back to international cricket after a long time.It's too early to say he is below average or average bowler.He has played just 5 ODI's. Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Surprised how quick he is for his height Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Many Indian bowlers start with 140. After one or two injuries or after realizing that the batters are using their pace to tonk them for runs, they come back to 135 and try to give importance to line and length rather than wayward bowling.having said that all our pacers fail even after attempting that.The last good pace bowlers we had were Kapil and ZAK who played for a long time.Just two class pacers in about few decades.Others get dropped between debut to 4 years.Only a couple of years will tell where he stands as an international bowler. Link to comment
Old guy Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Many Indian bowlers start with 140. After one or two injuries or after realizing that the batters are using their pace to tonk them for runs' date=' they come back to 135 and try to give importance to line and length rather than wayward bowling.having said that all our pacers fail even after attempting that.The last good pace bowlers we had were Kapil and ZAK who played for a long time.Others get dropped between debut to 4 years.Only a couple of years will tell where he stands as an international bowler.[/quote'] He just came of very major injury and still bowled with this pace Problem in past was Zaheer,munaf. ,irfan ect were never quick bowlers they just bowled occasional quick spells while varun and umesh are fast bowlers and this was not even his quickest I am sure in coming matches we will see better bowling Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 He just came of very major injury and still bowled with this pace Problem in past was Zaheer,munaf. ,irfan ect were never quick bowlers they just bowled occasional quick spells while varun and umesh are fast bowlers and this was not even his quickest I am sure in coming matches we will see better bowling Have to disagree. Munaf was definitely 140+ bowler and he was given debut because he was the fastest India had at that point of time. Srinath bowled 140 at times and the slip fielders even said that he was faster than what the speed guns record. Varun and Umesh will have to come back to proper line and length.Just bowling 140+ will take them nowhere in the long run. Either they will get injured due to stress or they will err on line and length only to see they have been dropped from ODI's for leaking runs.One just has to see at Philander.He is not a consistent 140+ bowler but he moves it both ways and that is enough to even take wickets of the batters who are born and brought up on pacy wickets.Umesh is not even considered as one of the top 3 bowlers in India.After all the hype about his pace, he has fallen behind in the pecking order. Link to comment
kubrickian Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Many Indian bowlers start with 140. After one or two injuries or after realizing that the batters are using their pace to tonk them for runs' date=' they come back to 135 and try to give importance to line and length rather than wayward bowling.having said that all our pacers fail even after attempting that.The last good pace bowlers we had were Kapil and ZAK who played for a long time.Just two class pacers in about few decades.Others get dropped between debut to 4 years.Only a couple of years will tell where he stands as an international bowler.[/quote'] He is a tear away fast bowler, whose main weapon is pace. Don't think him or Umesh will ever compromise on pace. They are quite different from Munaf, Sreesanth, RP Singh etc. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Surprised how quick he is for his height he is not short. Taller than Shami, Yadav, BK. Akalpit Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Many Indian bowlers start with 140. After one or two injuries or after realizing that the batters are using their pace to tonk them for runs' date=' they come back to 135 and try to give importance to line and length rather than wayward bowling.having said that all our pacers fail even after attempting that.The last good pace bowlers we had were Kapil and ZAK who played for a long time.Just two class pacers in about few decades.Others get dropped between debut to 4 years.Only a couple of years will tell where he stands as an international bowler.[/quote'] He has already suffered 3-4 back stress fractures and has still maintained pace. Yadav has suffered two, still has pace. Akalpit Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 He has already suffered 3-4 back stress fractures and has still maintained pace. Yadav has suffered two, still has pace. Akalpit The point is whether he will be able to play even 50 ODI's for India by bowling sheer pace. Just pace is useless in long run if it is not accompanied by line and length.Whether he has that quality or not is yet to be seen.He has just started his ODI career and is hyped just because people are crazy about the number.Team think tank will not keep him because he can bowl 140 or 150.What they will look is whether he has control over the ball or not and takes wickets while keeping runs per over reasonably down.We haven't found such a bowler yet since ZAK was dropped.Many have been tried but none above average quality. Also, Umesh is now finding it tough even to get in the playing 11 after all the hype about the pace he bowls at. Link to comment
ThePhenomenal1 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 There has been criticism that he picked only one wicket.Give him a break.He is coming back to international cricket after a long time.It's too early to say he is below average or average bowler.He has played just 5 ODI's. It's unbelievable i read on twitter people saying he has taken over role of ishant sharma by conceding runs?! :omg: They didn't appreciate that he got McCullum on a duck, big wicket. Bowled well, deserved another wicket. Do people forget the bashing ishant got as soon as he is dropped? Also the fact that this ground was short as hell What a way to disrespect someone coming back and someone who runs in hard with skill to win. Pathetic fans, can't even call them that! Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 He is a tear away fast bowler' date=' whose main weapon is pace. Don't think him or Umesh will ever compromise on pace. They are quite different from Munaf, Sreesanth, RP Singh etc.[/quote'] Agreed that some pacers do not compromise on pace irrespective of whatever happens with their international career.Example being Tait. He played few tests and got dropped from ODI's and T20's as well, but even in the ongoing Big Bash he is still bowling sheer pace.So there is a chance that either Umesh or Varun too will continue bowling sheer pace in domestic cricket even if they get dropped from internationals for some reason or other. Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 It's unbelievable i read on twitter people saying he has taken over role of ishant sharma by conceding runs?! :omg: They didn't appreciate that he got McCullum on a duck, big wicket. Bowled well, deserved another wicket. Do people forget the bashing ishant got as soon as he is dropped? Also the fact that this ground was short as hell What a way to disrespect someone coming back and someone who runs in hard with skill to win. Pathetic fans, can't even call them that! LOL. The last thing he would want is being compared with Ishant Sharma or Vinay kumar. :cantstop: Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Before his injury, Aaron was an accurate bowler. He is a bowler who uses his brains and bowls objectively. I did not see him bowl today but most reports regarding his accuracy and objectivity have been favourable. All of the above is very encouraging. Link to comment
ThePhenomenal1 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 LOL. The last thing he would want is being compared with Ishant Sharma or Vinay kumar. :cantstop: Especially when he is in leagues above them Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Back him, play him, groom him Use him correctly ( we all know dhobi does not know how to handle fast bowlers, or does it purpose to destroy them for lover boy) The fella has some spunk and wants to be involved. Like the way he came out to bat and knew what was needed from him and started telling jadeja what to do. Wants it and has good brain Like I have been saying for ages get this guy in. Our group of semaers should be bk, shami, yadav and aaaron Link to comment
Cricketics Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 He started well when he came to bowl. NZ were around about 56 in 10 overs and I remember Scott Styris praising him and other bowlers for keeping the line tight. After when Guptill looked settled, I see Aaron was trying too many things. He should have just stuck to his basic line on these small grounds. But this was just his first odi. He will leave this game with lot of thoughts and will come back as a better bowler. He will surely be thinking about all the things he did wrong in the first game of his. Sometimes on the field, you can't focus how you will bowl in your 2nd spell, but you actually can dwell on it between a game. I am sure he will be a better bowler next game. We need to invest in this dude. He deserves a run. Link to comment
ShebbySB Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Back him, play him, groom him Use him correctly ( we all know dhobi does not know how to handle fast bowlers, or does it purpose to destroy them for lover boy) The fella has some spunk and wants to be involved. Like the way he came out to bat and knew what was needed from him and started telling jadeja what to do. Wants it and has good brain Like I have been saying for ages get this guy in. Our group of semaers should be bk, shami, yadav and aaaron +Pandey....these 5 are my test bowlers. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 If Aaron can bowl this quick after such a long injury layoff then he is a naturally quick guy. Coupled with his accuracy, he can be the real deal. The captain and team management must handle him with care so that his workload is within limit. Link to comment
Switchblade Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Dhoni On Aaron About Aaron, well, he needs to play a few more games and find consistency in his line and length. Also, if he is bowling at 140-145 km/hr, he needs to bowl two bouncers every over, irrespective of where he is playing. This is something we want our bowlers to understand. More than pace, the height of the bouncer is very important. So far in this series, we have used bouncers more than often and got some success as well. http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/ravindra-jadeja-just-needs-to-get-his-thinking-right-mahendra-singh-dhoni/ Link to comment
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