Austin 3:!6 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Rahane and Vijay need a kick at the rear side. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk SecondSlip 1 Link to comment
Dinx - the Jinx Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 21 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: That may be a good idea. No its a very poor idea. India have a poor record in promoting non-openers to openers slot and screwing up their career even more. Tell me one batsman in India's 500+ tests who was a non-specialist and went on to become successful? Link to comment
Dinx - the Jinx Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 IMO - Rahane has to be sent back to Ranji games immediately and get some form back before the Australians hit our shores. Link to comment
Dinx - the Jinx Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 And yeah.. don't pick him for the ODIs against England too. Give him time in Ranji to get back to Form as test player. The 188 against a hapless NZ attack cannot be considered as a justification for his prolonged stay in the team Link to comment
sandeep Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 No excuses - he's got to get his $hit together. His failure today is the turning point if we don't win this test. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Was our best bat in the SA series on raging turners.Did well againist NZ.And then thry put him in the ODIs where he looked so incompatible and that has affected his confidence. best batsman? He scored runs only in the last test at Delhi and that pitch wasnt a raging turner. Mohali and Nagpur were raging turners and he failed there. Pitches against apart from Kanpur NZ were not rank turners too. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Dinx - the Jinx said: Rahane is getting bad to worse. Shouldnt be picked in the next test at Mumbai. Would serve him well to be dropped for a home test No, should not be dropped. He plays at least one good innings every series. He was struggling against SA and then played good knock in last test. Same against NZ in the last test. He will another good innings in the last test. Edited November 27, 2016 by rkt.india Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) Rahane needs to practice playing spin in the nets for long hours. Play Ashwin, Jaddu and Mishra a lot. All 3 types of spinners. Practice reading the googly from the hand. That should help him a lot. Removing him from the test team is a big NO. Edited November 27, 2016 by express bowling mancalledsting 1 Link to comment
Dinx - the Jinx Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 14 minutes ago, rkt.india said: No, should not be dropped. He plays at least one good innings every series. He was struggling against SA and then played good knock in last test. Same against NZ in the last test. He will another good innings in the last test. Bad logic. So you want to keep him in the team with the hope that he will come good in the last test? Unlike NZ series, this England series is a High profile series and a lot is at stake. Virat knows the importance of winning this series and winning it convincingly. So its imperative that we give ourself the best chance by playing the best and in form players. Link to comment
Dinx - the Jinx Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Its not about Rahane. Its about team India. England didnt think twice before dropping Ben Ducket and replaced him with Buttler who hant played FC for a long time. They didnt think this will dent Ben's confidence or spoil his career. They are here to win the series not nurture Ben Ducket Sidhoni, Forever Indian and WC2011INDIA 1 2 Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 Its not about Rahane. Its about team India. England didnt think twice before dropping Ben Ducket and replaced him with Buttler who hant played FC for a long time. They didnt think this will dent Ben's confidence or spoil his career. They are here to win the series not nurture Ben Ducket Rahane is not Ben Duckett.5 innings back he scored a 188. Link to comment
sandeep Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, Dinx - the Jinx said: Its not about Rahane. Its about team India. England didnt think twice before dropping Ben Ducket and replaced him with Buttler who hant played FC for a long time. They didnt think this will dent Ben's confidence or spoil his career. They are here to win the series not nurture Ben Ducket If you don't understand the difference between a Duckett and a Rahane, then not sure what to say to you. Link to comment
Dinx - the Jinx Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Rahane is not Ben Duckett.5 innings back he scored a 188. 5 innings back... my friend.. thats a long time in modern cricket Forever Indian 1 Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 5 innings back... my friend.. thats a long time in modern cricket Thats 2 and a half tests.Not long time by any stretch. Laaloo, Forever Indian and SecondSlip 3 Link to comment
Dinx - the Jinx Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, sandeep said: If you don't understand the difference between a Duckett and a Rahane, then not sure what to say to you. I dont want to understand the difference either. The point is if you havent contributed across 3 tests and 6 innings, then I dont want to keep you in my team with the hope that you'll do it in the next 2. Sidhoni, philcric and Forever Indian 3 Link to comment
Dinx - the Jinx Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 ok.. with just 1 over left, it appears unlikely to go part 283. Lets just ensure that we finish the day with 6 down Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted November 27, 2016 Author Share Posted November 27, 2016 I dont want to understand the difference either. The point is if you havent contributed across 3 tests and 6 innings, then I dont want to keep you in my team with the hope that you'll do it in the next 2. You dont discard players who have scored a lot of runs on basis of 2-3 tests. Forever Indian 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 27 minutes ago, Dinx - the Jinx said: Bad logic. So you want to keep him in the team with the hope that he will come good in the last test? Unlike NZ series, this England series is a High profile series and a lot is at stake. Virat knows the importance of winning this series and winning it convincingly. So its imperative that we give ourself the best chance by playing the best and in form players. Yes, this is a high profile series but you don't drop a proven performer midway. Rahane is an important cog for this team. Rather than punting on unknown players, it is better trust someone who has done it for the team. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 28 minutes ago, Dinx - the Jinx said: Its not about Rahane. Its about team India. England didnt think twice before dropping Ben Ducket and replaced him with Buttler who hant played FC for a long time. They didnt think this will dent Ben's confidence or spoil his career. They are here to win the series not nurture Ben Ducket Ben Duckett has played 4 tests and averages 15. Rahane averages 48 after 31 tests. Comparing chalk and cheese. Link to comment
Dinx - the Jinx Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 14 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Ben Duckett has played 4 tests and averages 15. Rahane averages 48 after 31 tests. Comparing chalk and cheese. I think its you who didnt understand what the object of comparison was. Its not a comparison b/w Ben Ducket and Rahane. Its a comparison between English dropping Ben and India not dropping. Rahane looks clearly out of form since that 188. He has gone through 5 ODI innings and 5 Test innings without registering a 50. His dismissals in this series so far are that of a man in poor form. When someone loses form, it takes long time to get it back. So I am suggesting instead of India having to endure the losses due to his poor form, he can go play for Mumbai to get his form back. If Mumbai loses a few Ranji games due to Rahane's poor form, thats ok. Country comes first. India has long been plagued by this hero worshiping and respect for past records and achievements. Yes, lets give him credit for his achieveents in the past. However right now he looks awfully out of form. Team India is not the place to get his form back. Link to comment
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