Champions Trophy 2017: Squads and other news.

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, Autonomous said:

Our fat Sharjeel smashed them in all parts....

For all of what 5 balls? ODIs are a bit longer than 5 overs.  That's why your team is so poor in that format, can either survive for that long, or score quickly for a short burst - not possible for them to do both on a consistent basis.   

 

How sad is it that greenbros are now clamoring to bring fat Sharjeel back - as if he was AB De Villiers - even though he was caught fixing games.  But on second thought, for that team and that fan base, fat sharjeel is like a ABDV.    Man, if Parthiv or Uthappa were born a bit farther west, they would be greenbro "ATGs" by now.  

[Autonomous]

2 hours ago, sandeep said:

For all of what 5 balls? ODIs are a bit longer than 5 overs.  That's why your team is so poor in that format, can either survive for that long, or score quickly for a short burst - not possible for them to do both on a consistent basis.   

 

How sad is it that greenbros are now clamoring to bring fat Sharjeel back - as if he was AB De Villiers - even though he was caught fixing games.  But on second thought, for that team and that fan base, fat sharjeel is like a ABDV.    Man, if Parthiv or Uthappa were born a bit farther west, they would be greenbro "ATGs" by now.  

He averaged 50 in the series. Scored 3 consecutive fifties, I don't think these are 5 balls...

[LegBye]

I have few tickets for Ind v Pak but can't go. Any good sites where I can sell these tickets?

[Vilander]

12 hours ago, Mosher said:

Aussie bowling line up - Starc, Cummins, Hazelwood and Pattinson  

epic bowling lineup, if there is hint of bounce opposition will get peppered.

[Vilander]

4 hours ago, sandeep said:

For all of what 5 balls? ODIs are a bit longer than 5 overs.  That's why your team is so poor in that format, can either survive for that long, or score quickly for a short burst - not possible for them to do both on a consistent basis.   

 

How sad is it that greenbros are now clamoring to bring fat Sharjeel back - as if he was AB De Villiers - even though he was caught fixing games.  But on second thought, for that team and that fan base, fat sharjeel is like a ABDV.    Man, if Parthiv or Uthappa were born a bit farther west, they would be greenbro "ATGs" by now.  

speaking of Parthiv he is actually a very good batsman. Wonder why he does not get a few games for India.

[BeautifulGame]

Our fat Sharjeel smashed them in all parts....

 

Don't think any of three played together in that series.

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, Vilander said:

speaking of Parthiv he is actually a very good batsman. Wonder why he does not get a few games for India.

He's good for what he is.  Gets most of his boundaries in powerplay and against spinners.  Hard for him to sustain his scoring rate once the field restrictions are gone.  Better test bat than most people rate him, but his glove work is still OK at best.   As a package he's useful, and comfortably a few notches ahead of the latest Pakistani Messiah - the aggressive Sarfraz - with gloves and bat - but reality is that there are better batsmen in India than him, better 'keepers than him, and also better 'keeper-batsmen than him.   If he was from Pak, he would have been a 10 year captain by now though.  Miles ahead of the likes of Khatmal, Sarfraz etc.  

[Marshall]

2 hours ago, sandeep said:

He's good for what he is.  Gets most of his boundaries in powerplay and against spinners.  Hard for him to sustain his scoring rate once the field restrictions are gone.  Better test bat than most people rate him, but his glove work is still OK at best.   As a package he's useful, and comfortably a few notches ahead of the latest Pakistani Messiah - the aggressive Sarfraz - with gloves and bat - but reality is that there are better batsmen in India than him, better 'keepers than him, and also better 'keeper-batsmen than him.   If he was from Pak, he would have been a 10 year captain by now though.  Miles ahead of the likes of Khatmal, Sarfraz etc.  

If he is better than sarfraz then why u play the likes of dhawan rahane and even rohit because Sarfraz's record is better than all of these.

There is a limit to hype and idiocity isn't he the same  short fat kid who couldn't buy a run in 2010 in England

[Autonomous]

3 hours ago, BeautifulGame said:

 

Don't think any of three played together in that series.

Watch scorecard please. 

[Sidhoni]

Australia is top heavy. In middle order Head and Lynn are inexperienced, Maxwell is unpredictable. Why haven't they picked Bailey?

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, Sidhoni said:

Australia is top heavy. In middle order Head and Lynn are inexperienced, Maxwell is unpredictable. Why haven't they picked Bailey?

Looks like they are going all in on the T20 style batting lineup - They probably expect flat roads in England.  And the batting unit in this squad will be stacked with power-hitting all the way down.  Apart from Smith, the rest are all power-hitters.  Although Head is supposedly highly rated and can maybe do more than just tonk the ball.  They expect Smith to drop anchor while the hitters will keep coming at the bowling.  Picking Moises and Stoinis over Faulkner also priortizes batting over bowling.  

 

 

[sandeep]

2 hours ago, Marshall said:

If he is better than sarfraz then why u play the likes of dhawan rahane and even rohit because Sarfraz's record is better than all of these.

There is a limit to hype and idiocity isn't he the same  short fat kid who couldn't buy a run in 2010 in England

"record"?? Why does Sarfraz hide at #5 in that weaker than BD and SL batting lineup?  Because he's not technically good enough to face the new ball, even in ODIs.  Guy can't hit a 6 if given a lollipop fulltoss by a spinner.  And you claim he's better than Rohit and Dhawan?  Kiddo, you really don't understand cricket much do you.  

 

Look, harsh truth is that Parthiv Patel is a much better test cricketer than Sarfraz - any day.  Both are average to sub-par wicket-keepers and Parthiv is miles ahead as a test batsman - good enough to open the batting in tests.  And has done it away from home against quality teams.  "Aggressive" Sarfraz comes in and scores a few single-doubles with the tail.  That's about the extent of his abilities - He puts a price on his wicket, and does well.  But his batting abilities have a very clear ceiling.  If you can't see that, then you don't understand what batting is all about.   Its a bit closer in white ball cricket, but even there head to head, Patel would get picked before Sarfraz if a neutral had to pick one out of the 2.  Now run along and think of new "insults" like duckdulkar or some other nonsense, that you think are going to rile up Indians.  Child.  

[Marshall]

First of all his comparison with that Parthiv is nothing short of a Joke.

Secondly he clearly has better stats than rohit and dhawan even though they have added advantage of opening the batting,you can check it stats speak itself and Your argument regarding his absolutely absurd as he maintains 90+ strike rate almost all the time even without "hitting" because he is canny player who knows how to find gaps and hit boundaries regularly though he is not a mascular guy.

And it seems you got offended by "duckdulker" but saying "UAE KHAN" is ok.

You will get what u give kid.Tit for tat

[bowl_out]

5 hours ago, LegBye said:

I have few tickets for Ind v Pak but can't go. Any good sites where I can sell these tickets?

How much are you selling it for?

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, Marshall said:

First of all his comparison with that Parthiv is nothing short of a Joke.

Secondly he clearly has better stats than rohit and dhawan even though they have added advantage of opening the batting,you can check it stats speak itself and Your argument regarding his absolutely absurd as he maintains 90+ strike rate almost all the time even without "hitting" because he is canny player who knows how to find gaps and hit boundaries regularly though he is not a mascular guy.

And it seems you got offended by "duckdulker" but saying "UAE KHAN" is ok.

You will get what u give kid.Tit for tat

Parthiv-Sarfraz comparison is no joke - the joke is on you for getting so worked up over a simple reality.  Parthiv >> Sarfraz in test cricket - this is not even worthy of a debate.  I've seen Sarfraz keep wicket - he makes Parthiv looks professional and reliable by comparison.  

 

For ODIs, here's some "stats' for you  - Sarfraz averages 8 runs against Aus in Aus - Dhawan averages 42+ at 99+ SR  Dhawan has scored clutch match-winning ODI innings in champions trophy and world cup.  Sarfraz only looks decent compared to the pile of incompetents that make up the rest of the Pak batting lineup.  He wouldn't even make it into India 'A' team  for ODIs.  Good for Pakistan's standards though.

 

 

 

 

[Sidhoni]

12 hours ago, sandeep said:

Looks like they are going all in on the T20 style batting lineup - They probably expect flat roads in England.  And the batting unit in this squad will be stacked with power-hitting all the way down.  Apart from Smith, the rest are all power-hitters.  Although Head is supposedly highly rated and can maybe do more than just tonk the ball.  They expect Smith to drop anchor while the hitters will keep coming at the bowling.  Picking Moises and Stoinis over Faulkner also priortizes batting over bowling.  

 

 

True, looks more of a T20 lineup.

 

England are doing the same thing as well, with Root playing Smith's role. But they don't have the luxury of a pace attack as good as Aussies.

 

 

[BeautifulGame]

England squad :

 

 

Eoin Morgan, Moeen Ali, Jonny Bairstow, Jake Ball, Sam Billings, Jos Buttler, Alex Hales, Liam Plunkett, Adil Rashid, Joe Root, Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, David Willey, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood

 

Think Wood coming back from injury could potentially be the surprise package with the ball and add an extra dimension to the attack.

 

What pace does he bowl?

 

Is he 140k or 150k like Cummins .I am seeing lot of hype around his selection .But seems too much to put on a guy returning from long term injury layoff.

[sandeep]

England are 2nd favorites according to me after the chokers.   South Africa, England, Australia, India, and the rest.  That's how I see them ranked going into the Champions trophy.   England's fate will depend on how they bowl the middle overs - if Rashid does well, they will be hard to beat.  South Africa have AB, Amla, DeKock, Duplessis and Miller to counter the pommie batting, and then have Tahir to take wickets in the middle.  

[cric_fan]

Azhar Ali who was dropped..did not play in PSL or vs WI..has been recalled for CT..??

 

[chewy]

As usual SA's squad looks strongest (even with quotas!)

Aus's bowling looks strongest on paper, but batting is suspect, will be heavily reliant on Smith. 

NZ batting better than Aus