surajmal Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, randomGuy said: Yeah, all supposed 25 lac bhakts in haryana knew all along that baba was a rapist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 That it's only now (after the verdict) that media is going after the baba and showing the details of this case and of other cases. So his bhakts will realize that he actually was a criminal. Them (plus the non-bhakts of course) would be thankful that he is at his right place (jail). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, randomGuy said: That it's only now (after the verdict) that media is going after the baba and showing the details of this case and of other cases. So his bhakts will realize that he actually was a criminal. Them (plus the non-bhakts of course) would be thankful that he is at his right place (jail). Its a complicated issue. Although I'm sure majority of the dera followers will be at ease that this creep is gone, HC passing orders to confiscate dera properties isn't going to make things easy for them (which I'm hoping dera administrators will challenge). Its a bigger religious issue now than political. Soul Vultures are salivating at the thought of such a large number of followers. For that reason alone, HC order needs to be challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) I'm assuming Real estate mafia in NCR is being dealt with considering how hard the MSM is going after khattar. Edited August 26, 2017 by surajmal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBN Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 police did use real bullets and people throwing stones were gunned down the police/army/crpf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuge Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Writes Retired Lt Gen Who Led Surgical Strikes http://www.news18.com/news/india/opinion-gurmeet-ram-rahim-singh-dera-sacha-sauda-case-panchkula-lt-general-ds-hooda-1501661.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jf1gp_1 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 On 8/26/2017 at 10:55 AM, Muloghonto said: it can be shoot at sight with rubber bullets/mace. No excuse to not use non-lethal force to break up illegal activity. We live in the 21st century- there is no excuse for a government to fail to provide basic law and order while 'playing at' being a super-power and spending billions on Aircaft carriers. We want to master the baddest fighting weapons that will make our enemies shiver, yet we fail at settling a domestic dispute others make a non-issue of. Shame! If you watched latest Game of thrones episode then police vs rapist supporters was exactly like john snow + team on the rock surrounded by undead; not much could have been done by the forces who were put in a terrible position. Also the kind of scrutiny every security personal has to undergo if they shoot and kill a civilian. Also look at the entire situation some AG was carrying his bags, his security attempted a failed escape for him. You want to question then question why such large crowds were allowed to buildup. Once it was there not much could have been done but yes as you wrote govt has to answer specially when we are looking to be the next military super power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 32 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: If you watched latest Game of thrones episode then police vs rapist supporters was exactly like john snow + team on the rock surrounded by undead; not much could have been done by the forces who were put in a terrible position. Also the kind of scrutiny every security personal has to undergo if they shoot and kill a civilian. Also look at the entire situation some AG was carrying his bags, his security attempted a failed escape for him. You want to question then question why such large crowds were allowed to buildup. Once it was there not much could have been done but yes as you wrote govt has to answer specially when we are looking to be the next military super power. Again, these are meaningless excuses for command failure of the police force and policy failure of the government. this is 2017. A nation that can dedicate billions of dollars on developing fancy (and never likely to use) weapons of war that only 4-5 other nations have, has no business making these kind of silly & innane excuses about enforcing law and order on rioting civilians in a non-lethal and containing way. there is no two ways about it, except the fact that our government and police force are both abject failures at enforcing law and order security of the public. A country that is a third world also-ran in enforcing law and order over its citizens will never amount to anything more than a third world also-ran. We need to realize this, fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jf1gp_1 Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Again, these are meaningless excuses for command failure of the police force and policy failure of the government. this is 2017. A nation that can dedicate billions of dollars on developing fancy (and never likely to use) weapons of war that only 4-5 other nations have, has no business making these kind of silly & innane excuses about enforcing law and order on rioting civilians in a non-lethal and containing way. there is no two ways about it, except the fact that our government and police force are both abject failures at enforcing law and order security of the public. A country that is a third world also-ran in enforcing law and order over its citizens will never amount to anything more than a third world also-ran. We need to realize this, fast. Real problem isnt failure of police and govt, its lakhs and cr of people worshiping a rapist. Earlier in the week i was listening to women justifying triple talaq. This is a country where someone in 2017 had to make a movie on why one should build a toilet at home vs open defecation and in this 2017 people are glad swatch bharat is failing, our collective thinking is why we will always be a third world country Edited August 27, 2017 by jf1gp_1 beetle, dial_100 and Tendu_10 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said: Real problem isnt failure of police and govt its lakhs and cr of people worshiping a rapist As far as i am concerned, real problem is failure of police an govt. to enforce law. I couldn't care less about how many worship who and what. that doesnt affect the individual. My govt.'s failure to enforce law affects the individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 6 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said: Real problem isnt failure of police and govt, its lakhs and cr of people worshiping a rapist. Earlier in the week i was listening to women justifying triple talaq. This is a country where someone in 2017 had to make a movie on why one should build a toilet at home vs open defecation and in this 2017 people are glad swatch bharat is failing, our collective thinking is why we will always be a third world country That's not a complete picture. And remember, it's not restricted to babas, there are likes of Salman Khan or even Tejpal who had their support groups. What about the Bollywood gang and their hypocrisy? There are educated, and intellects who are also supporting such elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 On 26/08/2017 at 6:07 PM, Book_Worm said: Isn't this person ram rahim baba sikh?? is he hindu.? He is not a sikh though he was born in sikh Family as Sikhism prohibits anybody call himself Guru.you can call him follower of universal spirituality or creator of new religion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Singh bling said: He is not a sikh though he was born in sikh Family as Sikhism prohibits anybody call himself Guru.you can call him follower of universal spirituality or creator of new religion Seriously. some religions may allow this but spirituality never ever allows this. Spirituality doesnt even allow one to get worshiped from others. Spiritual Guru is a guide and not a GOD. This guy is #1 fraud. Please dont call him spiritual. I dont care whether he is hindu or sikh but he is anything but spiritual. Edited August 28, 2017 by dial_100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 On August 26, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Book_Worm said: Isn't this person ram rahim baba sikh?? is he hindu.? He is everything according to his name dr st baba yada yada Singh yada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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