vishalvirsingh Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 2 hours ago, chapetmarunga said: Chandela looks good he left a lot of balls..has good temparament but definitely not worth playing for INDIA. Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, rkt.india said: We need bowlers like Saini for SA and Aus who are on taller side and hit that good length often at good pace. I was thinking the same We need someone like Saini in SA who will bowl those top of off stump deliveries repeatedly at pace He looks like a different bowler .... now that he has added extra pace with his existing accuracy But, how to get him in now ! What is his height ? Around 6'0" perhaps Edited December 18, 2017 by express bowling Hell Raiser 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said: shammi was between 133 to 142k and average not menacing..was comfortably bowling. Shami was not bowling with intensity, except his last 3 overs when he bowled some nasty deliveries Smart thing to do before SA, but should have bowled more accurately Mosher 1 Link to comment
eternalhope Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 9 hours ago, renjith said: Wobbly seam (not all over the place) is used for seam movement. Steady seam will produce swing. If you notice the seam position of bowlers like srinath, philander you can see that. Wait for just another gem coming out of the know all resident expert. Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, express bowling said: I was thinking the same We need someone like Saini in SA who will bowl those top of off deliveries repeatedly at pace He looks like a different bowler .... now that he has added extra pace with his existing accuracy What is his height ? Around 6'0" perhaps I thought I read somewhere he was 6'1. maybe I'm mistaken. Link to comment
fineleg Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) 55 minutes ago, express bowling said: We need someone like Saini in SA who will bowl those top of off deliveries repeatedly at pace But, how to get him in now ! There is NO WAY to get him in now. Barring, if Ishant Sharma's niggle makes him skip the tour. But he is only resting and I.S. will go to SA, so there is absolutely no way for Saini, maximum he can go as net bowler after Delhi finals gets done. But you need to remember that Kohli only likes experienced players, so pecking order for playing 11 will be Shami, Bhuvi, Ishant Sharma, Umesh Yadav, Bumrah and then only any others. Edited December 18, 2017 by fineleg Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, fineleg said: But you need to remember that Kohli only likes experienced players, so pecking order for playing 11 will be Shami, Bhuvi, Ishant Sharma, Umesh Yadav, Bumrah and then only any others. That is actually true for test matches, and a problem. Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I don't think you can play Saini just like that in tests, I don't care how well he bowls in Ranji.England is still there , they are taking the best team to SA. England also took their best team , Stokes not be available is Stokes's fault. If India gets beaten in SA it is because SA is better and not because we had taken wrong players. King Tendulkar 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 24 minutes ago, putrevus said: I don't think you can play Saini just like that in tests, I don't care how well he bowls in Ranji.England is still there , they are taking the best team to SA. England also took their best team , Stokes not be available is Stokes's fault. If India gets beaten in SA it is because SA is better and not because we had taken wrong players. although it's true one pacer will not make a diff if the gap is "large", it's still important to select right players for right conditions. btw, I am not advocating for his inclusion or exclusion since I have not seen enough of him to make any call. Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Vijy said: although it's true one pacer will not make a diff if the gap is "large", it's still important to select right players for right conditions. btw, I am not advocating for his inclusion or exclusion since I have not seen enough of him to make any call. I do think they are taking the best 17, will they select best 11 is a different story but that will be on captain and not on selectors. King Tendulkar 1 Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 9 hours ago, rkt.india said: We need bowlers like Saini for SA and Aus who are on taller side and hit that good length often at good pace. Ishant sharma Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 11 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said: Ishant sharma He bowls too many " can be left alone " deliveries. Link to comment
fineleg Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 by the way, why is shami looking so average versus gambhir and chandila? Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 50 minutes ago, fineleg said: by the way, why is shami looking so average versus gambhir and chandila? doesn't seem at full fitness to me. besides, gauti is not the force he was but he's still a very good domestic bat. Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 I think we need to seriously consider sitting Umesh Yadav,he has poor for a long time now,ideal bowling conditions and he barely made a mark,i would rather see what we have in bumrah but he hasnt played ranjis either. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 9 hours ago, express bowling said: I was thinking the same We need someone like Saini in SA who will bowl those top of off stump deliveries repeatedly at pace He looks like a different bowler .... now that he has added extra pace with his existing accuracy But, how to get him in now ! What is his height ? Around 6'0" perhaps Yes around 6 but the important thing is his high arm action which gives extra bounce too and accuracy. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 3 hours ago, fineleg said: by the way, why is shami looking so average versus gambhir and chandila? Very flat pitch Link to comment
renjith Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, eternalhope said: Wait for just another gem coming out of the know all resident expert. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off_cutter "The calling card of this delivery, for the batsman to read it in advance, is the typical wobble in the seam after ball release with the seam slanting predominantly towards the batsman. A simple way for a beginner to learn to bowl cutters is to try imparting strong back-spin to the ball by pulling down on the seam at the time of release while keeping the seam vertical." http://www.espn.in/cricket/story/_/id/17190493/james-anderson-holds-forth-swing-bowling "But I was a better, more experienced bowler on that trip, with better plans. I'd sort of learnt how to wobble the ball, so I could nip it off the seam rather than just rely on swing." Edited December 19, 2017 by renjith Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 9 hours ago, putrevus said: I don't think you can play Saini just like that in tests, I don't care how well he bowls in Ranji.England is still there , they are taking the best team to SA. England also took their best team , Stokes not be available is Stokes's fault. If India gets beaten in SA it is because SA is better and not because we had taken wrong players. In England, you need swing bowlers. Saini's bowling will suite SA pitches more than England. Regarding playing him in tests. we played Sreesanth, Munaf overseas after just two tests at home and he is far more experienced than them as he has toured SA recently with India A team and did reasonably well on rather slower pitches they got to play on. Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 22 hours ago, SK_IH said: all the fans watching,please notify when pant comes to bat,thanks in advance Pant batting now Link to comment
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