LORD_analyst Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Just saw a stat on star sports that ... bumrah has 23 wickets in 25 innings with new ball i.e approximately 1 wicket with new ball every match . bhuvi has 12 wickets in 22 innings with new ball i.e approximately 1 wicket with new ball every 2 matches .(0.5 wicket per match) this means by wicket taking ability ratio (with new ball) bumrah has twice the capability than bhuvi with new ball...also bumrah beats batsmen edge on numerous occasions but not so with bhuvi ..... is this means that india needs to give chance to another new ball bowler in odis and grooms him to become good at death as well ... Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 Quote spot on ...sir!!!!!!!!!!...bhuvi is **** with new ball Link to comment
the don Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 India possibily has the best death bowlers in the world yet the bowling attack has not been performing great . This stat is one of the reasons why . You also need a pace bowler who picks wickets in the middle overs not sure about Hardik. Link to comment
Laaloo Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Yep until Bhuvi and Bumrah can pick up wickets consistently upfront, their positions will be questioned. Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Laaloo said: Yep until Bhuvi and Bumrah can pick up wickets consistently upfront, their positions will be questioned. bumrah picks up quite a few outside edges...bhuvi doesnt Edited November 5, 2017 by LORD_analyst Link to comment
Lala2790 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Oh how India would kill to have our arsenal of fast bowlers. Gul, Amir, Asif, Wahab, Shaz1 and beetle 1 1 Link to comment
Pollack Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Bhuvi and bumrah are best death bowlers but the importance of taking wicket upfront needs to be addressed.Unfortunately we always like to learn after some big match loss. So I don't see it anytime soon. Atleast one pacer should be a very good new ball bowler taking wickets. Mosher 1 Link to comment
renjith Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) Still some people think bumrah is not good enough for tests and bhuvi has already played 18 tests. In odis we need to get back shami. Its all about taking wickets in odis these days. Edited November 6, 2017 by renjith Link to comment
Lala2790 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 When you've had Lol Ishant as your opening bowler for the last 10 years, guys like Bumrah and Bhuvi look like McGrath and Waqar. A shame Shami is not fit to play, he had some real talent Link to comment
New guy Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) On 11/4/2017 at 8:10 PM, LORD_analyst said: Just saw a stat on star sports that ... bumrah has 23 wickets in 25 innings with new ball i.e approximately 1 wicket with new ball every match . bhuvi has 12 wickets in 22 innings with new ball i.e approximately 1 wicket with new ball every 2 matches .(0.5 wicket per match) this means by wicket taking ability ratio (with new ball) bumrah has twice the capability than bhuvi with new ball...also bumrah beats batsmen edge on numerous occasions but not so with bhuvi ..... is this means that india needs to give chance to another new ball bowler in odis and grooms him to become good at death as well ... Lmao, same guys were whining that bhuvi was not a death over bowler before. And i saw bhuvi best the edge many times so you are straight up lying So did.nz drop boult after having really bad matches? Did there fans start whining and complaining about him? Bhuvi is the most improved bowler and is only going to keep getting better and better. The fact that bumrah is having a purple patch does not deter from that And the absolute hypocrisy of the last.sentence, when the same guys used to whine that bhuvi should be dropped as he is not a death bowler. The importance of bhuvi is that on his day he is a.match winner. Same reason why teams have batsmen who play a really great innings once in a while, like rohit or munro. When he is on song, he wins matches on his own. His 5 fer, 3 for 9, bumrah did not have spells like that Edited November 6, 2017 by New guy Link to comment
New guy Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 6 hours ago, LORD_analyst said: bumrah picks up quite a few outside edges...bhuvi doesnt Except i have seen bhuvi do that multiple times even in the last few series. Confirmation bias is a btch, ain't it? Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Lala2790 said: When you've had Lol Ishant as your opening bowler for the last 10 years, guys like Bumrah and Bhuvi look like McGrath and Waqar. A shame Shami is not fit to play, he had some real talent bumrah has avg of 22.8 which is better than wasim and waqar....lol see some facts amir avg. 27.8...hahahahha express bowling 1 Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 hour ago, New guy said: Lmao, same guys were whining that bhuvi was not a death over bowler before. And i saw bhuvi best the edge many times so you are straight up lying So did.nz drop boult after having really bad matches? Did there fans start whining and complaining about him? Bhuvi is the most improved bowler and is only going to keep getting better and better. The fact that bumrah is having a purple patch does not deter from that And the absolute hypocrisy of the last.sentence, when the same guys used to whine that bhuvi should be dropped as he is not a death bowler. The importance of bhuvi is that on his day he is a.match winner. Same reason why teams have batsmen who play a really great innings once in a while, like rohit or munro. When he is on song, he wins matches on his own. His 5 fer, 3 for 9, bumrah did not have spells like that stupid see facts wit new ball-written above -bhuvi has half the number of wickets than bumrah with new ball Link to comment
Lala2790 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I was talking Test cricket champ, try to keep up Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 hour ago, New guy said: Lmao, same guys were whining that bhuvi was not a death over bowler before. And i saw bhuvi best the edge many times so you are straight up lying So did.nz drop boult after having really bad matches? Did there fans start whining and complaining about him? Bhuvi is the most improved bowler and is only going to keep getting better and better. The fact that bumrah is having a purple patch does not deter from that And the absolute hypocrisy of the last.sentence, when the same guys used to whine that bhuvi should be dropped as he is not a death bowler. The importance of bhuvi is that on his day he is a.match winner. Same reason why teams have batsmen who play a really great innings once in a while, like rohit or munro. When he is on song, he wins matches on his own. His 5 fer, 3 for 9, bumrah did not have spells like that avg of 36 is poor from bhuvi....even pandya has avg of 35 with balll....then why are we picking bhuvi - for 3 overs at the death????? Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lala2790 said: I was talking Test cricket champ, try to keep up thus u accept ...bumrah was more capable than these overrated ball tampering kings in limited overs??????clearly Link to comment
New guy Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 2 hours ago, LORD_analyst said: avg of 36 is poor from bhuvi....even pandya has avg of 35 with balll....then why are we picking bhuvi - for 3 overs at the death????? I just want to ask you one thing. In tests Bhuvi averages 29 while Yadav 35 with both having almost same wickets per tests (2.6 vs 2.7) So would you agree that Bhuvi should replace Yadav in tests? beetle 1 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, Lala2790 said: I was talking Test cricket champ, try to keep up And this thread was about t20. Maybe you should read before pimping up your bowlers. Is Asif even alive? Edited November 6, 2017 by Laaloo Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Laaloo said: And this thread was about t20. Maybe you should read before pimping up your bowlers. Is Asif even alive? yup just saw asif smoking weed with his homies !!!! Mosher and Laaloo 2 Link to comment
Vilander Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 12 hours ago, Lala2790 said: Oh how India would kill to have our arsenal of fast bowlers. Gul, Amir, Asif, Wahab, first point do you have them ? Link to comment
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