nikred Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 brah, it later got bigger, did you read the whole thing? OK, so it got bigger and you learned to hold it and love yourself. Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamy Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 46 minutes ago, nikred said: OK, so it got bigger and you learned to hold it and love yourself. Sent from my Redmi Note 4 using Tapatalk you got it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamy Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Flamy uncle hello. Sunnyji here kya be uncle bolta hai saale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 kya be uncle bolta hai saaleOk saar. How r u? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, flamy said: That's so beautiful! *sniffle* https://www.420magazine.com/community/threads/giant-nepalese-landrace-cannabis.74337/ flamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 ok for flammy. Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dial_100 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 11 hours ago, Mariyam said: @flamy Interesting line of thought. How do you differentiate between self love and self indulgence/ self pity? Doesn't self love begin wih one getting immersed in one's own problems and forgetting that others too may have similar issues. I've observed people tend to separate themselves from others and exaggerate the extent of their own sufferings. It depends on what you call self. Most of human race call self as one thing. In spiritual world self is something else. For me it is my Ruh which is self. And when one loves his own Ruh, as OP says we can be our own friend, our own guide. We dont fear about petty worldly things in that state. It is lot easier said that done. Others call self to their mind, body, possessions, positions etc like I am So and So. These things are so shallow that our mind indulges in 'em. Rest we already know. In spiritual world, everything else is immaterial and we are just a ruh. Nothing else. Hope this what Flams saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamy Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: 1 hour ago, flamy said: kya be uncle bolta hai saale Ok saar. How r u? I am living the richest period of my life, how are you? How's the practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I use a lubricant for self love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamy Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, dial_100 said: It depends on what you call self. Most of human race call self as one thing. In spiritual world self is something else. For me it is my Ruh which is self. And when one loves his own Ruh, as OP says we can be our own friend, our own guide. We dont fear about petty worldly things in that state. It is lot easier said that done. Others call self to their mind, body, possessions, positions etc like I am So and So. These things are so shallow that our mind indulges in 'em. Rest we already know. In spiritual world, everything else is immaterial and we are just a ruh. Nothing else. Hope this what Flams saying. Thanks for your perspective, dial! I hadn't heard of Ruh before, is it similar to Soul? I consider the self to encompass the body, the mind, the personality, and the soul (for those who believe in it). But, really, my interest is more in keeping things practical than getting swept away by esoteric stuff. For me, magic is not real until I can feel it, touch it, and share it. So, in that spirit (ha!), my main focus tends to be on how my relationships are, with myself, with my people, with my work, with my creativity etc. I find that it is very easy to get into intellectual gymnastics with concepts when people get into them, which is why I like to keep it to just being loving. Love whatever is in your radar, be compassionate with it, and then the semantics of what the self is does not hold that much importance. But, most people have a good sense of self, and that's why I refer to self-love. dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamy Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, G_B_ said: I use a lubricant for self love Tart cherry juice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, dial_100 said: own Ruh i have always found sufis to be saviors of the world, being from islam if they can manage to get all of islam mystic as them then the world is saved. does Sufism believe in something similar to yogic transmission meaning any form of present divine energy from an infinite source ? dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Oh absolutely. I have read some stuff on Sufism. The islam should have only been Sufi Islam. But we all know the reality Not just sufism but all the similar practices in the eastern culture talk about the same yogic transmission/divine energy. There are even many biblical references to it or Budhism is also similar. Entire Gita should only be read in that context only. Issue is all the scholars try to read it in a literal sense. Spirituality and scholars are poles apart. You can be one or the other. Too much importance is given to so called scholars in the modern world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 52 minutes ago, flamy said: Thanks for your perspective, dial! I hadn't heard of Ruh before, is it similar to Soul? I consider the self to encompass the body, the mind, the personality, and the soul (for those who believe in it). But, really, my interest is more in keeping things practical than getting swept away by esoteric stuff. For me, magic is not real until I can feel it, touch it, and share it. So, in that spirit (ha!), my main focus tends to be on how my relationships are, with myself, with my people, with my work, with my creativity etc. I find that it is very easy to get into intellectual gymnastics with concepts when people get into them, which is why I like to keep it to just being loving. Love whatever is in your radar, be compassionate with it, and then the semantics of what the self is does not hold that much importance. But, most people have a good sense of self, and that's why I refer to self-love. Oops. My bad. I misunderstood then. What I am talking about is totally empirical. So yes it is kinda little mystical for those who are away from it but once you get into it, it is becomes more real than anything we have experienced so far. The difference in the two, i would say is, in one, you still feel life is like wave and in the other, you are unaffected by waves and you get to see waves but your remain steady. It is hard to explain. Well, yes soul, spirit, atma, ruh are very similar terms. I gotcha. The journey starts with integration of body, mind and soul. But eventually the former two drop off and what remains is soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamy Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, dial_100 said: Oops. My bad. I misunderstood then. What I am talking about is totally empirical. So yes it is kinda little mystical for those who are away from it but once you get into it, it is becomes more real than anything we have experienced so far. The difference in the two, i would say is, in one, you still feel life is like wave and in the other, you are unaffected by waves and you get to see waves but your remain steady. It is hard to explain. Well, yes soul, spirit, atma, ruh are very similar terms. I gotcha. The journey starts with integration of body, mind and soul. But eventually the former two drop off and what remains is soul. I gather you are speaking of the 'observer' versus the 'experiencer' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, dial_100 said: Oops. My bad. I misunderstood then. What I am talking about is totally empirical. So yes it is kinda little mystical for those who are away from it but once you get into it, it is becomes more real than anything we have experienced so far. The difference in the two, i would say is, in one, you still feel life is like wave and in the other, you are unaffected by waves and you get to see waves but your remain steady. It is hard to explain. Well, yes soul, spirit, atma, ruh are very similar terms. I gotcha. The journey starts with integration of body, mind and soul. But eventually the former two drop off and what remains is soul. Soul as well as 'Ruh' is very much different from atma/atman. Dharmic theories of Atman is very much different from the 'Religious' view of 'Soul' in biblical sense. One should NOT equate the two. Here's the basic difference. https://rajivmalhotra.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/SanskritNonTranslatables.pdf ATMAN IS NOT SOUL In dharmic tradition, the true nature of self or Atman is sat-chit-ananda. The true nature of Atman can be realised with sadhana or adhyatma vidya. Atman is present in plants and animals. Hence nature is as sacred as the self. Atman reincarnates. Hence the body is cremated once atman has departed. In Christianity or even Islam, all humans are born as sinners due to original sin by adam&eve. Hence the true self or Soul is sinful. Only through Jesus/Allah can the Soul attain salvation. Soul is NOT PRESENT in plants and animal. In Bible, GOD gave mankind dominion over plants and animals. Soul DOES NOT reincarnate. Hence in Christianity/Islam you get only one body that must be preserved till the 'end of time' for resurgence, just in case the soul comes back. Hence, they don't cremate , but bury. Hence Christians say 'Rest in Peace' when somebody dies. When hindus die, 'Rest in Peace' message doesn't make sense. We should hence say 'Om Shanti' or say 'let the atma attain sadgati' and merge with paramatma! Edited March 13, 2018 by coffee_rules dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamy Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 :haha: This is exactly why I don't get into the semantics, because then it just becomes intellectual gymnastics. Love the self you understand to be yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Have an allergy....I am going to Benadryl myself to sleep tonight....may be in the small window before it kicks in will revisit the thread. Hmmm....Self medicating=Self Love I think I am getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 (edited) Haven’t gone through all the posts in details so may hv missed something but I guess it is hard to understand your own self if you only love yourself as love is said to be blind Iirc, there is a story about Akbar asking Birbal to bring him the most good looking kid, and Birbal, considered to be a think tank, brought his own son (probably blinded by love) Pharos were in self love mode too, which resulted in creating pyramids for themselves so they can probably continue to love themselves even after death BD cricketers are in self love mode too Where is substance? How to acquire substance? Edited March 14, 2018 by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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