Why do some South Indians can speak Hindi fluently while many can't?

[Chaos]

On 10/16/2024 at 6:39 AM, Mariyam said:

“Why do some South Indians can speak Hindi fluently while others can’t?”

 

And the OP is talking of fluency in other languages.

Can op speak spanish good? . Pablo Escobar cousin

[Mariyam]

3 hours ago, bowl_out said:

 

Most of us who studied in CBSE schools had Hindi as 3rd language for 3-4 years. The problem is that it is never taught from the point of view of conversing. I remember studying Kabir Doha in 3rd language Hindi. Never understood the purpose of that.

I still struggled when I went to Delhi and Lucknow for college and was very shy to speak in Hindi with my batch mates who were native Hindi speakers.

 

But over the years, my Hindi only picked up when I worked started speaking in Hindi with colleagues, again proving that one can learn a language only by conversation and not just from textbooks. 

 I made it my life's mission to use Kabir's dohas dohae in random conversations and on the internet. Had to get something out of cramming meaningless medieval inanities.

 

You really haven't used 

Jaako raakhe saiyan, maar sake na koi

Baal na banko kar sakey, jo jag bairi hoi

 

with friends or at work?

 

 

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, Mariyam said:

 I made it my life's mission to use Kabir's dohas dohae in random conversations and on the internet. Had to get something out of cramming meaningless medieval inanities.

 

You really haven't used 

Jaako raakhe saiyan, maar sake na koi

Baal na banko kar sakey, jo jag bairi hoi

 

with friends or at work?

 

 

What’s to life without the beauty of poetry, literature, nature and intelligent samvad? 
 

We are left with boring - Python, Typescript, c++ and Postgres that brings food to the table!!

[Mariyam]

4 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

What’s to life without the beauty of poetry, literature, nature and intelligent samvad? 
 

We are left with boring - Python, Typescript, c++ and Postgres that brings food to the table!!

We?

 

Not me, thankfully. I dunno nothin of those.

Edited October 18, 2024 by Mariyam

[singhvivek141]

4 hours ago, Mariyam said:

We?

 

Not me, thankfully. I dunno nothin of those.

Bank or Law ?

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:

Bank or Law ?

 

Vakalat. Imagining thos Urdu nukta spouting - Tamam gawahon ke bayaanat aur sabooton ko madde nazar rakhte huye, hum adalat se darKHvaast karte hai ke  mulzim ko baaizzat bari ki jaaye !" 

Edited October 18, 2024 by coffee_rules

[singhvivek141]

5 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

 

Vakalat. Imagining thos Urdu nukta spouting - Tamam gawahon ke bayaanat aur sabooton ko madde nazar rakhte huye, hum adalat se darKHvaast karte hai ke  mulzim ko baaizzat bari ki jaaye !" 

Or

"Tajirate hind dafa xyz ke tehat, mulzim ko saza-e-maut/umr-qaid ka farmaan sunati hai".

 

 

[coffee_rules]

13 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Or

"Tajirate hind dafa xyz ke tehat, mulzim ko saza-e-maut/umr-qaid ka farmaan sunati hai".

 

 

dafah teen-sau-do!! I think that IPC code is made famous by Hindi movies of yore.

[Mariyam]

1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:

Or

"Tajirate hind dafa xyz ke tehat, mulzim ko saza-e-maut/umr-qaid ka farmaan sunati hai".

 

 

Don't mean to ruin your joke , but

 

Mulzim is the accused.

Mujrim is the convicted.

 

If someone is sunaoed a saza ka farmaan, he is a mujrim

[coffee_rules]

3 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

Don't mean to ruin your joke , but

 

Mulzim is the accused.

Mujrim is the convicted.

 

If someone is sunaoed a saza ka farmaan, he is a mujrim

 

Sazaa ka hukum di jaye, jahanpanah!

[singhvivek141]

5 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

Don't mean to ruin your joke , but

 

Mulzim is the accused.

Mujrim is the convicted.

 

If someone is sunaoed a saza ka farmaan, he is a mujrim

Oh, now I'm confused
If Mulzim is accused & Mujrim is convicted...what is Mulazim then ?

[Mariyam]

3 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Oh, now I'm confused
If Mulzim is accused & Mujrim is convicted...what is Mulazim then ?

Mulazim is an employee/worker. 

Mazloom is the oppressed

 

For Mazloom, Mujrim the root word is zulm/jurm 

For Mulzim the root word is ilzaam

[coffee_rules]

12 hours ago, Mariyam said:

Mulazim is an employee/worker. 

Mazloom is the oppressed

 

For Mazloom, Mujrim the root word is zulm/jurm 

For Mulzim the root word is ilzaam

Since we are asking, what does Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen mean?

 

I know what Majilis is.  But the rest is all political and lost in the narrative. 

[Mariyam]

On 10/19/2024 at 9:14 AM, coffee_rules said:

Since we are asking, what does Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen mean?

 

I know what Majilis is.  But the rest is all political and lost in the narrative. 

 

Council for the unity of Muslims.

 

Hyderabadi version of Diwan-e-aam. 

[New guy]

Hindi is the language I am most fluent in and I speak it better than my mother tongue. 

Edited October 21, 2024 by New guy

[Mariyam]

4 minutes ago, New guy said:

Hindi is the language I am just fluent in and I speak it better than my mother tongue. 

 

On a related discussion: What language do you think in?

 

For instance, I can speak Hindi/Urdu and Gujarati just as well as (if not better than)  I do English. However, if someone asks me a question or I have to formulate a plan of action, my thoughts are always in English.

[New guy]

18 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

 

On a related discussion: What language do you think in?

 

For instance, I can speak Hindi/Urdu and Gujarati just as well as (if not better than)  I do English. However, if someone asks me a question or I have to formulate a plan of action, my thoughts are always in English.

I actually think mostly in English as was a complete book work from a young age. So yeah it was always weird for me, as most cultural things and all I learnt from British authors like Enid Blyton and Agatha christie didn't apply to india.

 

So writing comes naturally in English better than any other language

 

I might have situational Hindi thoughts but like you, philosophical, long term or creative thoughts are always in English

 

But with friends and brother always spoke in Hindi so am very fluent in Hindi. 

 

 

Edited October 21, 2024 by New guy

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, Mariyam said:

 

On a related discussion: What language do you think in?

 

For instance, I can speak Hindi/Urdu and Gujarati just as well as (if not better than)  I do English. However, if someone asks me a question or I have to formulate a plan of action, my thoughts are always in English.

Tum log to Angrez ban gaye ho! Thinking has ways been in my mother tongue for me in social situations . I even do tables in Kannada. But work related obviously comes bout in English. 

[bowl_out]

6 hours ago, New guy said:

Hindi is the language I am most fluent in and I speak it better than my mother tongue. 

Curious - what is your mother tongue and where were your brought up?

[New guy]

14 hours ago, bowl_out said:

Curious - what is your mother tongue and where were your brought up?

Mother tongue is malayalam. Brought up in North