Has there been a player more cringy than Hardik Pandya?

[Ankit_sharma03]

8 hours ago, Khota said:

He failed as an opener and was dropped a slot. He was hitting a slump.

No he didnt fail , he was injured so dhawan came n smash hapless lanka n kohli out love for dhawan dropped rahul

Rahul never failed 

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Chappel was right only problem was the culture of hero worship. 

That was right but , his insecurity didnt lead team to anywere

At teh end u look at results 

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There is no need for these professional athletes to feel secure. They have only one job and that is to perform. as the saying goes there are only two type of players. Players who have been dropped and players who are about to be dropped. that is how professional sports work.

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Look at Dhoni. He was a non performer last year and with the threat of karthick he has picked his game. there should be competition for every slot in the game. No one including kohli should feel secure about his slot.

how was he a non perfomer he avg 60 , his s/r was also higher then karthik 

A player only gets better with time . HE was working on his new technique which is now giving result and its not an easy process

Karthik was never a threat, dhoni 's place is locked acc to captain kohli

Edited July 2, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03

[philcric]

2 hours ago, Khota said:

You compared Bhuvi and Umesh for bowling.

You compared Pandey and rahul for batting.

Do you agree both Bhuvi and Umesh are better bowler than Pandya and rahul is a better bat?

The problem with bits and pieces players is that your trophy hopes are shattered to bits and pieces.

 

Seems like you are going in a different direction again.

 

Anyway,

 

Umesh is a better bowler than Pandya. Pandya can bowl and bowl well.

 

Rahul is a better batsman than Pandya. Pandya can bat and bat well.

 

Umesh's bowling + zero batting provides a certain value to the team. 

 

Rahul's batting + zero bowling provides a certain value to the team. 

 

Pandya's batting + bowling provides a certain value to the team.

 

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

6 hours ago, Khota said:

 

Do you agree both Bhuvi and Umesh are better bowler than Pandya and rahul is a better bat?

 

rubbish question coz bhuvi n umesh are not competing with pandya , neither rahul n pandya 

 

Bhuvi n umesh are better bowler but pandya is a better batsman n fielder then both of them so he compensates by that 

Rahul is a better batsman but he cant bowl n field as good as pandya, so pandya covers that with his bowling n fielding

 

N in odi pandya can play with his powerhouse batting only at no.7 n noone can doubt that 

Edited July 2, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03

[Khota]

4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

No he didnt fail , he was injured so dhawan came n smash hapless lanka n kohli out love for dhawan dropped rahul

Rahul never failed 

That was right but , his insecurity didnt lead team to anywere

At teh end u look at results 

how was he a non perfomer he avg 60 , his s/r was also higher then karthik 

A player only gets better with time . HE was working on his new technique which is now giving result and its not an easy process

Karthik was never a threat, dhoni 's place is locked acc to captain kohli

I am talking about SA series. rahul was a failure.

 

Chappel was never given any time. his approach was correct. You cannot coddle these players.

 

He was a non performer. he failed in CT. It is ironic that the captain is stupid who gaurantees a spot based on reputation. karthick was miles ahead of him last year.

Edited July 2, 2018 by Khota

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, Khota said:

I am talking about SA series. rahul was a failure.

Yea caused he got dropped in 1st game for an overseas failure dhawan n his confidence wud have taken a beating

2 minutes ago, Khota said:

 

Chappel was never given any time. his approach was correct. You cannot coddle these players.

He had more then 2 yrs , no one will give u more time if u are not producing result n cnt keep dressing room happy 

2 minutes ago, Khota said:

 

He was a non performer. he failed in CT. It is ironic that the captain is stupid who gaurantees a spot based on reputation. karthick was miles ahead of him last year.

SO CT is the only tournament, karthik cudnt even earn a place

What was karthik avg n s/r when he played, wo nhin khela to wo krta , jab khela tab kya kiya

[Khota]

3 hours ago, philcric said:

 

Seems like you are going in a different direction again.

 

Anyway,

 

Umesh is a better bowler than Pandya. Pandya can bowl and bowl well.

 

Rahul is a better batsman than Pandya. Pandya can bat and bat well.

 

Umesh's bowling + zero batting provides a certain value to the team. 

 

Rahul's batting + zero bowling provides a certain value to the team. 

 

Pandya's batting + bowling provides a certain value to the team.

 

 

 

here is my point.

 

Average batting and average bowling provides nothing. Average bowling will be send over the fence and average batsman is easy pickings. Pandya is average and either the team has to decide the fifth spot has to go to a bowler or a batsman. 

 

This half-assed effort will not get anywhere.

Edited July 2, 2018 by Khota

[Khota]

3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Yea caused he got dropped in 1st game for an overseas failure dhawan n his confidence wud have taken a beating

He had more then 2 yrs , no one will give u more time if u are not producing result n cnt keep dressing room happy 

SO CT is the only tournament, karthik cudnt even earn a place

What was karthik avg n s/r when he played, wo nhin khela to wo krta , jab khela tab kya kiya

I dont have all day but karrthick earned his slot. He was denied a place in the starting eleven by the moron. 

 

Coaches job is not to keep dressing room happy.

Edited July 2, 2018 by Khota

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, Khota said:

I dont have all day but karrthick earned his slot. He was denied a place in the starting eleven by the moron. 

one innings doesnt wash 14 yrs of choking, he has a long way to go 

[Khota]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

one innings doesnt wash 14 yrs of choking, he has a long way to go 

One last ball six says otherwise.

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, Khota said:

One last ball six says otherwise.

he has done a lot of quality things in past but choked most times

Long way to go

[Khota]

15 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he has done a lot of quality things in past but choked most times

Long way to go

That shot was the most clutch in the history of Indian cricket. I bet Dhoni would have probably taken a single.

[Ankit_sharma03]

40 minutes ago, Khota said:

That shot was the most clutch in the history of Indian cricket. I bet Dhoni would have probably taken a single.

[Clarke]

21 hours ago, Khota said:

It was a tossup between him and Iyer but they are interchangable.

 

I do not believe at that level they should be persisted with. Two consecutive failures with the bat should get you the bench.

 

The longer this thread continues, the more shall khotaisms emerge. Thus far: 

 

1 All rounders don't exist, whole cricketing fraternity and it's followers are morons, khota is the only enlightened one. 

2 Previous eras were all amateur, hence those so called all rounders. Imran/Kapil/Botham etc were amateurs besides Richards/Marshall/Lillee etc. Unadkat and company are the real professionals from this era. 

3 Stats can't be trusted when khota says so. Only khota can be trusted.

4 Two failures means player needs to be benched. That's the professional way to run professional sports.

[Clarke]

On 6/29/2018 at 5:32 PM, Khota said:

I was right about openers. I was right about wkt kprs. I am pretty much right about most of the things.

 

Cricket when it was an amature sport could affort all rounders. It is a specialist sport now and no one has the time to be good at both batting and bowling. anamolies may happen but you will not see a pattern.

 

look at football and the level of sophistication. Every player has a very specialised role and the strikers get most of the goals. There are specialist at evey positions. Dfeender may get a goal but he is never the striker.

Therein seems to be the problem, the bold section. It reflects of egomaniacal narcissism if one thinks that way with the precisely repeated mention of "I am right". That can lead to newer & crazier theories created to justify the originally crazy theory, as is the case here.

[rkt.india]

21 hours ago, Khota said:

This is exhibit no 1464984568296 for someone deserves a Darwin award.

 

7-11 can contribute runs but their main purpose is to bowl.

Wicketkeepers need to keep and contribute with bat decently.

 

Same way Pandya is a batsman batting at 7 who contribute with the ball. Batting average of 30 and an SR of 115 in ODIs should certainly qualify him as a batsman in ODIs. Isn't it? 

[Khota]

3 hours ago, Clarke said:

 

The longer this thread continues, the more shall khotaisms emerge. Thus far: 

 

1 All rounders don't exist, whole cricketing fraternity and it's followers are morons, khota is the only enlightened one. 

2 Previous eras were all amateur, hence those so called all rounders. Imran/Kapil/Botham etc were amateurs besides Richards/Marshall/Lillee etc. Unadkat and company are the real professionals from this era. 

3 Stats can't be trusted when khota says so. Only khota can be trusted.

4 Two failures means player needs to be benched. That's the professional way to run professional sports.

 

3 hours ago, Clarke said:

Therein seems to be the problem, the bold section. It reflects of egomaniacal narcissism if one thinks that way with the precisely repeated mention of "I am right". That can lead to newer & crazier theories created to justify the originally crazy theory, as is the case here.

Look at the irony of your post.

[Khota]

2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Same way Pandya is a batsman batting at 7 who contribute with the ball. Batting average of 30 and an SR of 115 in ODIs should certainly qualify him as a batsman in ODIs. Isn't it? 

Yes he can contribute. At that level contribution is not enough.

[philcric]

17 hours ago, Khota said:

here is my point.

 

Average batting and average bowling provides nothing. Average bowling will be send over the fence and average batsman is easy pickings. Pandya is average and either the team has to decide the fifth spot has to go to a bowler or a batsman. 

 

This half-assed effort will not get anywhere.

 

Evidence so far suggests otherwise.

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

15 hours ago, Khota said:

Yes he can contribute. At that level contribution is not enough.

Contribution ke siwa aur kya chahiye - Mujra

[rkt.india]

16 hours ago, Khota said:

Yes he can contribute. At that level contribution is not enough.

Contribution he has done at 7 already is more than any in Indian history.  Already has an MOS award and some MOMs too.