dial_100 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Its appalling to see the sense of entitlement these guys boast. Tell these idiots to ask for Sharia in United States. I mean whatever happens, their approach is , "No blah blah, we do it this way in xxxx". But why? and who cares how you do it. India a country, a democratic one and one of the most important country in the world history. We bloody have a democracy. just shut up and fall in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alam_dar Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 15 hours ago, beetle said: https://www.news18.com/amp/news/india/woman-forced-to-sleep-with-father-in-law-under-nikah-halala-faces-death-threats-for-speaking-out-1813621.html Woman Forced to Sleep With Father-in-law Under Nikah Halala, Faces Death Threats for Speaking Out Narrating her ordeal, she said that her husband had first given her instant talaq. Thereafter, she was forced to marry her father-in-law and consummate the marriage as part of Nikah Halala as she had to marry her first husband again after getting a divorce from her father-in-law.However, her ordeal did not end there. After marrying her first husband again, Shabina was again given divorce and this time she was being forced to marry her brother-in-law. But this time, she decided enough is enough. She approached Nida Khan, who had married into the influential Dargah Aala Hazrat family, and the two went to the media to highlight their plight. Nida Khan had also met the same fate as that of Shabina. She was also a victim of triple talaq and has been fighting against it for quite some time.Both Nida and Shabina have now lodged a case in the local police station against five individuals after receiving death threats.The two alleged that the local clerics have said that “people who do not follow Shariat are automatically considered out of the Islam” and those who raise their voice against Shariat will face ““dire consequences”.SP (City) Abhinandan Singh said that a case has been registered. “The orders for investigation have been given,” he said.Bareilly’s Shekhar Imam Mufti Khurshid Alam said people opining against Shariat and critiquing Halala are doing so to gain media attention.“Some people are giving statements against Talaq and Halala just to gain media attention. We do not need to throw anyone out of Islam, people who speak against Shariat are automatically considered out of Islam,” said the cleriric -------------------------- Yeh karenge insaaf!! When your Sharia laws are screwd up....what kind of justice are they going to provide. I am wondering what to think about this woman Shabina. We are sincerely fighting against Nikah-Halala, but it may be that some women try to use our struggle for their wrongful personal interests. This woman (Shabina) perhaps even don't know that Nikah or Nikah-e-Halala is not allowed with the father-in-law. Therefore, I am very doubtful about her. Perhaps she wants some kind of personal revenge against his husband. Therefore, be aware of such cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Fatwa issued against triple talaq crusader: ‘Stop eating with her' https://m.timesofindia.com/city/bareilly/dont-meet-her-dont-eat-with-her-if-she-dies-dont-bury-her/amp_articleshow/65016782.cms This is the future of these sharia courts. DHONI_FANN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Given triple talaq for giving birth to girl, UP woman files FIRThe woman’s in-laws, who have also been booked, allegedly started harassing her and demanded a motorcycle and cash after she gave delivered the child 10 days ago.(By: Express News Service | Lucknow |Published: July 17, 2018 3:02:11 am)AN FIR has been lodged against a Kairana resident on the basis of a police complaint filed by his wife, accusing him of harassing her and giving her triple talaq after she gave birth to a girl child.The woman’s in-laws, who have also been booked, allegedly started harassing her and demanded a motorcycle and cash after she gave delivered the child 10 days ago. The FIR was registered at Kairana police station on Friday against the husband Zulfikar, mother-in-law, sister-in-law and brother-in-law of the complainant, Shadima, under several IPC sections, police said.Additional SP, Shamli, Shlok Kumar, said, “The woman came to the police station three days ago with her child and filed a complaint against her husband and in-laws.https://indianexpress.com/article/india/given-triple-talaq-for-giving-birth-to-girl-up-woman-files-fir-5262504/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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beetle Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 https://m.timesofindia.com/city/meerut/this-i-day-hindu-mahasabha-sets-up-first-hindu-court-on-the-lines-of-shariat-court/articleshow/65413883.cms Alam_dar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 https://m.timesofindia.com/city/meerut/this-i-day-hindu-mahasabha-sets-up-first-hindu-court-on-the-lines-of-shariat-court/articleshow/65413883.cms Nothing wrong in it? Yes, a controversial step but as they say, if Shariat courts can exist under Indian Constitution, then why not Hindu courts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Nothing wrong in it? Yes, a controversial step but as they say, if Shariat courts can exist under Indian Constitution, then why not Hindu courts? Because just like Sharia laws...this is a backward step. This also gives unnecessary power in the hands of some people over others. What stops these courts from misusing powers? It is like saying" woh pahad se kooden to hum kyun na kooden" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Because just like Sharia laws...this is a backward step. This also gives unnecessary power in the hands of some people over others. What stops these courts from misusing powers? It is like saying" woh pahad se kooden to hum kyun na kooden"It could be long term. They are hoping for more reactions, like educated women like you will be giving. Thus waking up the authorities of this issue which they’ve been ignoring for long... See you either keep on ignoring the issues in hand or allow everybody to have their own personal laws... Muslims are not special people to have their own Shariat laws in a democracy like us... mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 40 minutes ago, asterix said: It could be long term. They are hoping for more reactions, like educated women like you will be giving. Thus waking up the authorities of this issue which they’ve been ignoring for long... See you either keep on ignoring the issues in hand or allow everybody to have their own personal laws... Muslims are not special people to have their own Shariat laws in a democracy like us... There is still some difference between both laws. Precisely in one, they talk about kafirs so let's not make it equals.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 (edited) Is their any such provision of hindu laws in hinduism? Make some make believe law and call it hindu law? Mazaak bana rahe hain dharma ka. Why call it hindu law? You have a problem with muslims having their own personal law....fight it in court. If you want your extra constitutional courts ....call them mahasabha courts or any other courts. Just any excuse to have power. These people give a bad name to a fine religion.Hindu dharma ke dhekedaar ban gaye ! By naming some laws as hindu laws in competition with silly shariat law is itself an insult to their religion . Now all we need is some Fatwas from these self appointed judges to bring down standard of our religion . Instead of moving forward....take your religion backward . Cut your nose to spite your face. What next...ask for rights to polygamy? Next....triple talaaq? Edited August 15, 2018 by beetle Alam_dar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 It should be forbidden to name it "Sharia Court". Court is there to give the "Decisions", which should be followed. Therefore, Government should ban the Muslims to use the word "Court" for their services. Instead of this, they may name it "Sharia Counsellor Service". Very Important: Government should make it obligatory for these Counsellor Services to follow all the RULES which are applied to a Counsellors like Psychiatrists. First of them is TOTAL PRIVACY. This means that these Counsellor Services could not make open the details of the case to the Public. This will save the parties from the social pressure of the society. If these Counsellor Services make the private details open, then they should be fined heavily and they should loose their licence. === Do you know what other Rules are applied on the Counsellors like Psychiatrists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, beetle said: https://m.timesofindia.com/city/meerut/this-i-day-hindu-mahasabha-sets-up-first-hindu-court-on-the-lines-of-shariat-court/articleshow/65413883.cms 7 hours ago, asterix said: Nothing wrong in it? Yes, a controversial step but as they say, if Shariat courts can exist under Indian Constitution, then why not Hindu courts? I read the complete article. * It says that they are opening these Hindu Courts "As Reaction" to the Muslim Sharia Courts. * And they will award the punishments, even of killing, for going against the Hindu laws. Since this is only a reactionary step, therefore let us not get serious about it. But on the other side, I have also learnt to never under estimate the stupidity of the extremists. Edited August 15, 2018 by Alam_dar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 This will lead to unfair trial. Not sure this is such a great idea. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 7 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: This will lead to unfair trial. Not sure this is such a great idea. The court will ban them and arrest a few of the judges and they will all go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, beetle said: The court will ban them and arrest a few of the judges and they will all go home. It would be a good step if the Court stops them. But I am not a big fan of using force in the 1st step. But I believe that better option is always this if we could convince the people verbally and they themselves back off. Otherwise human psyche is always like this that it is making allegations against others and seeing oneself as deprived of the rights etc. Here the main problem is only the Muslim Community. Let them give an alternative in name of Sharia Counsellor Services, with Privacy as the condition so that society could not exert it's pressure on any party. I am sure many Muslims will understand it and stop the demand of any Sharia court. And those, who still keep on demanding Sharia Courts, then they should be pushed back through the force and this will not bring any damage while others will not follow them. Mullah want to attract the Muslim masses through such tactics. But I want the repetition of 3 Talaq case where the Indian Muslim women realised oppression against them and stood against these Mullahs and made mockery of them. Edited August 16, 2018 by Alam_dar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 4 hours ago, beetle said: The court will ban them and arrest a few of the judges and they will all go home. thats most likely thats going to happen. Its simply a form of showing protest and media attention as to why double standards in Constitution UrmiSinhaRay, beetle and asterix 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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