asterix Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 I check out his speech. Some good resolutions for Pakistan. Hope he gets success. Hope he doesn’t ends up as Pak version of Kejriwal...As for comments on Kashmir, we need to give him some leeway. He’s not established yet and these comments he’s to make.In any case, India policy won’t change atleast till the next Govt comes in 2019. Switchblade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asim Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 Victory speech with informally presenting his govt outline... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asim Posted July 26, 2018 Author Share Posted July 26, 2018 ^ about relations with india 21:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 How will he talk with India? India has categorically stated that Kashmir cannot be central focus of talks between India and Pakistan. Im the Dim says something completely opposite, toeing the pakistani army line. No Indian government in the current scenario or anytime in the future will look at normalizing Indo-Pak relations until Pakistani Army gives up their obsession with J&K. Gollum, chewy and MechEng 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Quote ISLAMABAD: The chief observer of the European Union Election Observation Mission to Pakistan, Michael Gahler, has said that apart from a few incidents of terrorism, the overall situation of the general election was satisfactory. https://www.dawn.com/news/1422911/eu-mission-terms-election-satisfactory-calls-it-better-than-2013 DAWN and EU. It should be Gospel truth now for anyone who said about rigging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Are the final results out?The way everybody sat in addabaazi or dastarkhaan groups, I thought the results will be announced sooner than later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, asterix said: Are the final results out? The way everybody sat in addabaazi or dastarkhaan groups, I thought the results will be announced sooner than later... Total seats - 272 Results - 262 Imran khan needs 137 seats to become PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Total seats - 272 Results - 262 Imran khan needs 137 seats to become PM. Ok so results are not fully out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 hours ago, KeyboardWarrior said: Total seats - 272 Results - 262 Imran khan needs 137 seats to become PM. Just curious, what takes this long to finish 272 seat counting. There is a smoke of dhandli in election for a reason. I mean seriously what takes this long. It has been over 48 hours, isnt it? As long as Pak people are happy about the election of IK, we are happy. Congratulations to you all. I think there are many analysts in Pak now who clearly understand that India is never going to accede to a "separate Kashmir" demand. Other than that, there is a lot to gain for both the countries with good relation. If not then, we as a country are used to be a neighbor of Pak. We will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 40 minutes ago, asterix said: Ok so results are not fully out... for now thats the official result. 31 minutes ago, dial_100 said: Just curious, what takes this long to finish 272 seat counting. There is a smoke of dhandli in election for a reason. I mean seriously what takes this long. It has been over 48 hours, isnt it? As long as Pak people are happy about the election of IK, we are happy. Congratulations to you all. I think there are many analysts in Pak now who clearly understand that India is never going to accede to a "separate Kashmir" demand. Other than that, there is a lot to gain for both the countries with good relation. If not then, we as a country are used to be a neighbor of Pak. We will be fine. thre was re-counting on some of seats becoz of complaints so thats why it took 48 hours. usually the official announcement cmes after 36 to 48 hours, so thats not the issue. the EU just said that election was fair and better thn 2013. https://www.dawn.com/news/1422911/eu-mission-terms-election-satisfactory-calls-it-better-than-2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dial_100 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 hours ago, KeyboardWarrior said: for now thats the official result. thre was re-counting on some of seats becoz of complaints so thats why it took 48 hours. usually the official announcement cmes after 36 to 48 hours, so thats not the issue. the EU just said that election was fair and better thn 2013. https://www.dawn.com/news/1422911/eu-mission-terms-election-satisfactory-calls-it-better-than-2013 For a change, if it is true then congratulations to the people of pak for having fair elections after a long time, or was it for the first time forever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KeyboardWarrior Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 hours ago, dial_100 said: For a change, if it is true then congratulations to the people of pak for having fair elections after a long time, or was it for the first time forever? i think its after long time. 1 hour ago, asterix said: as i said, some complaints are coming from some places, so thres gonna be re-counting as per ECP rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asim Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 On 7/27/2018 at 9:49 PM, dial_100 said: Just curious, what takes this long to finish 272 seat counting. There is a smoke of dhandli in election for a reason. I mean seriously what takes this long. It has been over 48 hours, isnt it? As long as Pak people are happy about the election of IK, we are happy. Congratulations to you all. I think there are many analysts in Pak now who clearly understand that India is never going to accede to a "separate Kashmir" demand. Other than that, there is a lot to gain for both the countries with good relation. If not then, we as a country are used to be a neighbor of Pak. We will be fine. very much usual practice... Actually within 4-6 hours of polling end, we get the whole trends, same was the case this time... then even before next morning we get around 85-90% of results which clears everything... then to make it 100% it usually takes 2,3 days because of few polling stations with any issues or recounting or different applications etc etc but Overall situation remains more or less the same what we get within 4,5 hours... dial_100 and Gollum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 http://dunyanews.tv/election2018/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 On 7/27/2018 at 7:25 PM, KeyboardWarrior said: for now thats the official result. thre was re-counting on some of seats becoz of complaints so thats why it took 48 hours. usually the official announcement cmes after 36 to 48 hours, so thats not the issue. the EU just said that election was fair and better thn 2013. https://www.dawn.com/news/1422911/eu-mission-terms-election-satisfactory-calls-it-better-than-2013 On 7/28/2018 at 9:47 PM, Asim said: very much usual practice... Actually within 4-6 hours of polling end, we get the whole trends, same was the case this time... then even before next morning we get around 85-90% of results which clears everything... then to make it 100% it usually takes 2,3 days because of few polling stations with any issues or recounting or different applications etc etc but Overall situation remains more or less the same what we get within 4,5 hours... On 7/27/2018 at 10:37 PM, dial_100 said: For a change, if it is true then congratulations to the people of pak for having fair elections after a long time, or was it for the first time forever? * There are a lot of doubts of Rigging by Election Commission, when election results were suddenly frozen by Elections commission in the evening at about 20:00. * Excuse presented by election commission is totally lame. Election commission told that freezing of results was due to an electronic problem in their internal system. But this Electronic System freeze had absolutely nothing to do with the expulsion of the polling agents and counting in front of them, and then handing over to them the form 45, while all this is a manual process. Rangers expelled the polling agents and counting was not done in front of them. If true, then it make whole election to null and void. Here we could understand why form 45 was not handed over to the polling agents. Please Pakistani members answer us on behalf of election commission if you deem election commission to be free of rigging. * Initially election commission allowed recount in few constituencies, and indeed rigging was found in all of them and thus election commission had to change the results after the recounting and Nawaz league got the seats from PTI after recounting. * But then suddenly election commission denied ALL the new demands of recounting. And election commission had denied it against it's own Law which give right to the loosing candidate to go in recounting process if the difference of votes is less than 10 thousand votes. Here we have difference of votes in few hundreds, and the numbers of discarded votes in thousands, but still election commission denied the recounting without giving any reason and also against it's own law. If Pakistani members still claim election commission to be Fair, then please answer us here on the behalf of election commission. *Another strange fact, why there are almost no cancelled votes in some places, while there are 5 thousand to 13 thousand cancelled votes in other places where mostly PTI won from very little margin? It is unbelievable form of rigging where you declare thousands of votes bogus and let PTI member win with narrow margin of few hundred votes. And more rigging is this that Election Commission is not even allowing the recounting in these constituencies even against it's own laws. And finally, there are thousands of ballot papers with stamp of the Election Commission, are being burnt in the garbage place in Karachi. These ballot papers have the votes for PPP and MQM. Looking at the evidence up till now, I highly doubt Rigging by Election Commission and the beneficiary is Imran Khan. Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asim Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 ^ these incidents are not even 20% of whatever happened throughout polling day and counting 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Its interesting to see that PML(N) got similar vote percentage to PTI this election in 2013 at around 32% but due to concentrated nature PML (N) crossed majority. Imran khan has chosen to ally it seems with MQM. Not sure thats a natural choice. Maybe Pak posters can explain. I dont think given his numbers Imran can make wholesales changes. But he can cut down on courruption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Too lazy to follow the latest. Imran PM bana ya nahin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Too lazy to follow the latest. Imran PM bana ya nahin?He’ll be taking oath on 11th August as PM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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