What will be role of Pandya in this test series?

[Rightarmfast]

15 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

then others are in way more deep **** if pandya hasnt done his job 

You really think others have done their job?

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, Rightarmfast said:

You really think others have done their job?

not at all 

atleast pandya stood up in Sa in 1st test ....what were others doing

In 1st in eng he applied himself n had a partnership with kohli, what did others do .........

so atleast he is doing more then others + bowling + fielding 

[zen]

At present Pandya is offering more value than many of the specialists:

 

• Dhawan gets a low score and is out of the game. Further drops catches
• Vijay gets a low score and is out of the game
• Rahul gets a low score and is out of the game
• Rahane gets a low score and is out of the game
• Karthik gets a duck in the 1st inning and drops catches / creates confusion behind the stumps 
• Yadav and Ishant bowl at a SR of 102 in the first inning. Don't do much with the bat 

 

Pandya bowls a 10 overs spell to rest other bowlers. Can create wkts through run outs with direct hits and stunning catches.  Fights it out in the middle with his batting with a solid 22 .... Unlike the specialists listed, it is hard to take Pandya out of the game as he can contribute in one way or the other

 

Based on the current scenario, we need at least one player like Pandya who can provide flexibility to the 11 .... Once we have a rolodex of batsmen who can avg 40+ in such conditions and bowlers who can bowl at SR of 55 or less, we can evaluate the options

 

 

Edited August 3, 2018 by zen

[Khota]

28 minutes ago, zen said:

He only bowled 10 overs in the inning where Ishant and Yadav had a SR of 102

 

So do some research before commenting! 

 

28 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he bowled better then ishant n umesh in 1st innings

he didnt get to bowl today 

so hows is his bowling hurting us ....even if u want a extra bowler.......till now a need isnt felt for an extra bowler as we are taking 20 wkts with ease

 

Also his job is not to take wkts, its to bowl 10-15 overs so main bowlers can have a breather

So why do you think he did not get to bowl today? Therein lies the answer.

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, Khota said:

 

So why do you think he did not get to bowl today? Therein lies the answer.

becoz we needed only main bowlers not someone who gives them rest

here is where u have ur own dellsuion that he is a main bowler.....no he isnt 

Neither m consfused nor the team 

[zen]

Just now, Khota said:

 

So why do you think he did not get to bowl today? Therein lies the answer.

Because specialists are supposed to bowl more overs. Yadav only bowled 7 overs 

 

In the first inning, he was required to bowl. Which is why you need a player who can provide flexibility as you do not know when you would require someone to help the 4 specialist bowlers. if not required, he is already helping as a batsman and fielder

 

 

[swastikpanda2]

Pandya actually offers nothing in Test cricket apart from psychological strength.

 

Ok. He should be played now because Bhuvi isn't around and avoiding him will give us a long tail.

 

Otherwise Ash, Bhuvi, Shami, Bumrah, Kuldeep/Pacer is a better attack with reasonable batting depth.

Edited August 3, 2018 by swastikpanda2

[zen]

11 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said:

Pandya offers nothing

 

Bats below Ashwin and doesn't even bowl overs and when he does leaks far too many runs releasing all the pressure built

So far, he has already offered more than Dhawan, Vijay, Rahul, Rahane, etc. 

[zen]

1 minute ago, UnknownGenius said:

Not really. His 10 overs for 46 runs were. Ahuge negative. We could have had England out for around 250 if not for Pandya leaking runs and releasing pressure 

[Khota]

1 hour ago, zen said:

Because specialists are supposed to bowl more overs. Yadav only bowled 7 overs 

 

In the first inning, he was required to bowl. Which is why you need a player who can provide flexibility as you do not know when you would require someone to help the 4 specialist bowlers. if not required, he is already helping as a batsman and fielder

 

 

 

42 minutes ago, zen said:

So far, he has already offered more than Dhawan, Vijay, Rahul, Rahane, etc. 

A proper bowler like Kuldeep and England would be all out for 175. pandya cost India the match if India loses.

[Khota]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

becoz we needed only main bowlers not someone who gives them rest

here is where u have ur own dellsuion that he is a main bowler.....no he isnt 

Neither m consfused nor the team 

So he is not a good bowler. If he was a proper bowler England would be all out for 175. Pandya blew it.

[zen]

30 minutes ago, Khota said:

 

A proper bowler like Kuldeep and England would be all out for 175. pandya cost India the match if India loses.

[asterix]

A proper bowler like Kuldeep and England would be all out for 175. pandya cost India the match if India loses.

Dhawan cost the match for his multiple catch drops and pathetic opening batting.

Pandya will be replaced but that doesn’t means Dhawan will stop dropping catches... he’s going to drop 10s of the catches throughout the series..

He dropped Sam Curran when he was on 13, who went on to Make a match winning Innings...

[shortbread]

If one removes the fan glasses, will realise that Pandya will be ineffective with the ball this series. English batsmen would see the likes of him a namoona, simply because they are used to better calibre of bowlers in county cricket especially in these conditions. Pandya cannot contain and his bowling has no role as proved in the second innings.

 

Jadeja brings additional dimension to the bowling plus is an impact-ful fielder.

 

Both would be pointless with the bat in England.

[vvvslaxman]

I wouldn't mind playing Pandya as a batsman over Rahane/Dhawan lol We can have Jadeja as well. 

[Khota]

1 hour ago, asterix said:

Dhawan cost the match for his multiple catch drops and pathetic opening batting.

Pandya will be replaced but that doesn’t means Dhawan will stop dropping catches... he’s going to drop 10s of the catches throughout the series..

He dropped Sam Curran when he was on 13, who went on to Make a match winning Innings...

Dhawan is the best opening batsman. Easy solution is to put him on the boundary.

[Ankit_sharma03]

8 hours ago, Khota said:

So he is not a good bowler. If he was a proper bowler England would be all out for 175. Pandya blew it.

if dhawan wudnt have dropped catches eng wudnt even had made 120

Dhawan blew , not someone who didnt bowl

5 hours ago, Khota said:

Dhawan is the best opening batsman. Easy solution is to put him on the boundary.

Ohhh ofcourse the guy is a mighty legend against bang, SL, afghanistan

Edited August 4, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03

[GautiMaan]

8 hours ago, Khota said:

 

A proper bowler like Kuldeep and England would be all out for 175. pandya cost India the match if India loses.

But such a bowler would not have scored runs nor would he have given support to Kohli.The tail would've gotten exposed too soon

We would have gotten out for 150 then

[Khota]

5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

if dhawan wudnt have dropped catches eng wudnt even had made 120

Dhawan blew , not someone who didnt bowl

Ohhh ofcourse the guy is a mighty legend against bang, SL, afghanistan

Why do you keep on ignoring the fact that he scores more than the other two openers.

[Khota]

4 hours ago, GautiMaan said:

But such a bowler would not have scored runs nor would he have given support to Kohli.The tail would've gotten exposed too soon

We would have gotten out for 150 then

If England would be out for less then there would be no pressure on rest of the lineup.