Stradlater Posted September 21, 2018 Posted September 21, 2018 He pulled US out of Paris agreement. That alone warrants blasphemy in my books.
Muloghonto Posted September 21, 2018 Posted September 21, 2018 9 hours ago, Tibarn said: Except this is nonsense. SA and Russia are not economically strong and neither has had an economy and market the size of India's: SA doesn't have as much money as you think to throw around. Based off of one IMF projection, they will run out of financial reserves by 2020-21. Their economy is under stress due to the falling of oil prices. They have even had to start charging IT to its citizens just to pay for all the entitlements they have. A similar story exists for Russia. Depending on the year, their economy has been declining in size (partly because of oil). They don't have money to throw around. Size of economy depends on population. The financial reserves a nation has, depends on their export-import surplus + taxation. It is a fact that Saudi Arabia has donated far more money (through their madrassah programs) than India has. Sure, both their economic future is gloomy. But as of now, they have more money & hard power (in Russia's case) to throw around than India. 9 hours ago, Tibarn said: Here you are also confusing hard vs soft power. The PLA being weak in comparison to the Russian Army is an example of hard power. Regardless, my post was regarding future tense. India has both a booming economy, an ever-expanding amount of FOREX reserves, and a government which is working to fix the balance sheet. There is nothing preventing India from developing soft power capabilities. Sure. If it happens in future, we shall see. But as of now, India neither has the hard power like Russia to intervene/have its will enforced (ala Syria) or soft power ala Saudi by throwing billions at whatever catches their fancy. The other main issue India will have, is that India has zero reputation in the international front. Its reputation is that of a cowardly nation that runs off its mouth but cannot put up when the time comes. Its fiasco with Mongolia proved that. It will take a long time after India acquires either the funds or the military to throw its weight around, for foreign nations to trust us to have the will to stick to our 'talk'. 9 hours ago, Tibarn said: Again this is laughable. Please back up this claim that no one respects India. India has support from numerous major countries for a permanent role on the UN Security Council. That is quite different than respecting India's position. India has so little respect and soft power in the international scene that it cannot even get Kashmir to be recognized as legally Indian territory, instead demarcated as 'disputed territory'. Yet China, long before it became an economic power-house(ie the 1980s), was able to block Taiwan from having any official recognition anywhere in the world (barring 2-3 no-name countries like Chad or Guatemala)- despite Taiwan being de-facto independent. This is India's aukaat in the international community. 9 hours ago, Tibarn said: India has no staunch allies or friends by a matter of policy: non-alignment. Blame that retarded Non-Alignment policy. Even then, the Soviets were at one time an Ally. The Israelis went out of their way to aide India during the Kargil War. India under Modi has become involved in new security dialogues such as the India-Australia-Japan dialogue and the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue. It is India's job to push these security dialogues into full blown alliances, which again fits with the future tense nature of my post. LOL. Quadrilateral dialogue is practically dead. Read up on it. This is because Australian economy is practically owned by China and Australia is unwilling to commit to any security initiative with China's rivals. And without Australia ( a resource provider to resource consumers like India and Japan), there is no quadrilateral anything. 9 hours ago, Tibarn said: No, India is a player that punches below its weight but is finding its feet. There is no reason the worlds 4th largest economy and military is a small player and there is no reason it cannot use the power it already has. Unless your definition of large player is only the US, India is not a small player. A small player is something like Canada which has limited power projection capacity/ a sphere of influence or Djibouti something so irrelevant that no one knows it exists. India is a smaller player in the international community than US, UK,France, Germany, Japan, Russia, Saudi, China at the very least. Despite being 15-20x the population and much bigger economy, India's power is closer to Iran/Turkey in terms of international influence, than its rivals. Yes, India punches below its weight - massively so. 9 hours ago, Tibarn said: Your entire argument comes down to Mongolia? India's ties with Mongolia are still in development: the FM just went to Mongolia in April to deepen ties. There was never a large relationship with them in the first place, but they are still in development. Look dude, we PROMISED them a 2-3 billion dollar line of credit if they took their rightful claim against China to arbitration (and expected China to blockade them). China blockaded them, Modi failed to deliver on his promise to Mongolia and Mongolia had to go crawling back to China. All because we promised we'd help them and then ran away like cowards. We are not deepening ties with mongolia, we are kissing their behind in apology for promising we'd help them if they stood up to the bully and then left them high and dry. This is a backstab to Mongolia. Plain and simple and this failure of Modi is pretty much signature ' big talk, but no action' route of the 'nationalists' in India. 9 hours ago, Tibarn said: You ignore Vietnam a more direct rival to China, to whom India is in the process of selling/has sold misses ie BrahMos, Akash. Pfft. Yes, we will sell any hardware to anyone who is gonna pay, so long as they are not Pakistan-friendly or Islamic nations. So what ? We got something out of that deal - $$$. Compare that to gaining influence - where we made promises we cannot deliver and screwed another nation. China on the other hand, is POURING money into Africa under 'good-will' and 'many of those loans will be written off', as a tacit way to gain influence. India is a child trying to play a man's game. 9 hours ago, Tibarn said: Soft-power doesn't require that India out maneuver China in Mongolia. It is already established that China has more financial clout than India. That doesn't preclude India from developing soft power.India simply has to be able to influence other countries toward its sphere of influence and make decisions in India's favor. For this to happen, countries need to trust India. Why should anyone trust India after our PUBLIC promises to Mongolia towards line of credit if China sanctions them, then bailing on them ? This is classic 'dhoka-baazi'. GoldenSun 1
velu Posted August 26, 2019 Author Posted August 26, 2019 Quote At a breakfast meeting with the British prime minister, Boris Johnson, Trump was asked if he was rethinking his decision to escalate tariffs against China. He replied: “Yeah, sure. Why not?” Asked again, he repeated: “Might as well. Might as well … I have second thoughts about everything.” friday -"Donald Trump has admitted to having "second thought " Quote White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham now says the media misinterpreted Trump’s initial remarks. The US president does not regret starting a trade war, but he does have second thoughts on whether he should have hit the Chinese even harder. saturday - "i should have hit harder" .. monday - "china wants to talk" Real McCoy and adi B 2
G_B_ Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 Hmm china is attempting to counter this by allowing their currency to depreciate.
velu Posted August 26, 2019 Author Posted August 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, G_B_ said: Hmm china is attempting to counter this by allowing their currency to depreciate. 7.15 vs usd .. bad for them in the long term their dream of making yuan as reserve currency is already over guess Real McCoy 1
Real McCoy Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 On 9/19/2018 at 10:40 AM, Stradlater said: Quite unrelated to the thread but according to Stormy Daniels Trump has quite an unusual penis. I wonder what that means. Or maybe it is related to the topic under discussion and his brain is actually located in his dick which would make a lot of sense. I would imagine China saying "me so horny" like this woman
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