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India needs to find pace bowling all-rounder


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10 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Proper bowlers like bhuvi n bumrah get a new ball and at a time when batsman isnt set 

when pandya comes to bowl batsman are set and ball isnt new

 

Temme why proper bowlers like bhuvi n umesh has higher eco then him in last few yrs, they dnt even offer what pandya offers in bat n field

There are different batsman when he comes. No one set per se in shorter formats.

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Just now, Khota said:

Can you tell me who is one of the highest scorer in Asia cup right now. I can tell you categorically Pandya will never be best in any category.

do u knw asia cup is a ODI format n m talking about test

and in test overseas pandya has shown more then these two 

Just now, Khota said:

 

Dhawan and pandya in same sentence. Blasphemy.

yea still endup doing better in test cricket the toughest form of cricket

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5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

do u knw asia cup is a ODI format n m talking about test

and in test overseas pandya has shown more then these two 

yea still endup doing better in test cricket the toughest form of cricket

Once again an opinion, not a fact.

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6 hours ago, Vk1 said:

Well,  I would like Pandya or the fast bowling all-rounder to always bowl  line and length and as miserly you can.. don't try to be the 10-0-65-2 kind of bowler. Instead try to become the 10-0-46-0 kind of bowler. There are two capable wrist spinners who can pick wickets at the other end while you bowl. 

Batting...  Give the strike to set batsman initially, become a better hitter against pace and know how to score of knuckle balls and slower ones coz you will get those in plenty when you come to bat.

Well if my no 5 bowler say is going for 60 runs but picking 2 possibly 3 wickets I am absolutely fine with that coz he is helping team restrict the opponents by picking wickets. 

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6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

opinion by all who has played it n even who hasnt 

 

6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

opinion by all who has played it n even who hasnt 

 

5 hours ago, express bowling said:

All international cricketers say it.

They are being polite.

Smell the coffee. test cricket is dying.

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It doesn't have to be Pace all-rounder. Apart from Pandya, we don't have any decent all-rounder in the squad. Makes you wonder why Krunal has been ignored for so long. Is there any stupid clause in Indian cricket that no two players from the same family should be awarded Indian contact? These two can be valuable players for India in LOIs. 

 

But I still believe we don't need Hardik in Test cricket. 

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1 hour ago, nsareen said:

Harshal Patel, Atit Sheth, Shivam Mavi could be looked at for this role.

Harshal has started opening the batting for Haryana & takes a wicket here and there.

 

Pathetic Trundler-Double No!

1 hour ago, nsareen said:


atit has got into India B teams, decent swing bowler who can bat a bit.

 

Sounds like a trundler-No!

1 hour ago, nsareen said:



Shivam is a quick bowler who can bat a bit too.


 

Absolutely-Double Yes!!!

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3 minutes ago, Jamadagni said:

On the contrary, we need a spin bowling allrounder so that we can play three front line pacers. 

 

Krunal, Kuldeep, Bhuvi, Bumrah, Khaleel. 

OR 

Hardik, Kuldeep, Bhuvi, Bumrah, Chahal. 

We already need a 6th bowler so if u add Krunal we have options

 

Bhuvi + Khaleel+ bumrah + kuldeep + hardik + krunal

 

Bhuvi + bumrah + kuldeep +chahal+  hardik + krunal

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8 hours ago, Khota said:

 

They are being polite.

Smell the coffee. test cricket is dying.

 

1 )  You change the " goalpost " a lot while debating.  The topic was  " test cricket is the toughest format  ".   You can agree or disagree ... but whether test cricket is dying or not does not necessarily have any relevance with its toughness from a player's perpective.

 

2 )    When almost every international player says something, it means that is what they feel.

 

3 )   Most teams, including us ,  play 8 to 12 test matches a year on an average.  Moreover, World Test Championship is about to start, which will give more relevance to every test series.  All these are not signs of a dying format.

 

4 )  Players exclusive to the T20 format lack pedigree, longevity, star value and crowd pulling power as a result.  Paul Valthaty is nowhere to be found now. Tymal Mills seems to be lost.  Some big IPL performers like Utthappa, Yousuf Pathan and Chawla have no star power.

 

The biggest stars are still those who do well or have done well in test matches plus ODIs.   Players who have done well in ODIs only,  do manage to survive but are rarely as big stars as those who play both tests and ODIs.

 

Combination of test match and ODI success give real pedigree ...  and hence star power and crowd pulling power.

 

Test matches will survive due to this reason only.

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