“Leave India,” Virat Kohli Tells Fan Who Like Foreign Batsmen More Than Indian Batsmen and the tale of Sachin and his Ferrari

[Muloghonto]

6 minutes ago, Under_Score said:

I'm talking about sentimental value of the gift given to him by another Legend Michael Schumacher. I know that many Billionaires ( especially in the West ) donate a lot, but selling a gift when you already have tons of money is something entirely different. 

Err, Gates and Buffet have sold plenty of gifts in their time. Especially Buffet. That man is a billionaire who donates like a billionaire and sells his stuff like a middle class wage-earner.

 

[Muloghonto]

3 minutes ago, Under_Score said:

Proof of what you are claiming would justify your post.

Reading financial ties would help. Warren has sold plenty of real estate he's gotten as gifts over the years....

[Vilander]

49 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

You repeating your slander will not make it true. 

:)

 public opinion is not slander.

 

 

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tendulkar/Sachin-allowed-to-import-Ferrari-duty-free/articleshow/21214323.cms

 

"Tendulkar who was gifted the car, had written to yashwant sinha requesting consideration of exemption of duty, a copy of the letter was also sent to Pramod mahajan who also requested the finance minister to waive the duty"

 

Tendulkar, who was gifted the car by Formula One ace Michael Schumacher on behalf of Fiat, had written to Sinha requesting consideration of exemption of duty keeping in mind some past instances. A copy of the letter was sent to Mahajan who also requested the Finance Minister to waive the duty.

 

 

https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/indiascope/story/20030825-sachin-tendulkar-receives-tax-exemption-for-importing-his-ferrari-791920-2003-08-25

 

"

Sachin Tendulkar receives tax-exemption for importing his Ferrari

Disgruntled taxpayers of the nation, unite. You have nothing to lose but your hero worship."

HERO TO ZERO: Sachin Tendulkar with his new Ferrari

No one grudges the modern master blaster his fleet of fast cars: the Ferrari now burning rubber with a Mercedes 600SL or a BMW SUV. 

But asking for a duty wavier pushes at the envelope - of trying to cash in on his own celebrity. After all, shouldn't grown-up rich boys be paying for their toys? Grown-up men in government certainly should not try to be reduced to becoming the fan on the street."

 

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cricket/Sachin-finally-gets-his-Ferrari/articleshow/69659.cms

 

The Rs 78-lakh car is part of a multi-crore endorsement deal that Sachin signed with Fiat three years ago. Normally, it takes about 14 months from the time of ordering. But it in this case, the car is being delivered ahead of schedule,the official added.

 

The Ferrari car had raised a lot of dust when Sachin had approached the finance ministry seeking a waiver of the 120 per cent peak customs duty to import the car. While the government was considering an ad hoc waiver in this case, fears of a public interest litigation and charges from the opposition forced the centre to reverse its stand. We have footed the import duty bill, and have paid a little over Rs 1 crore as import duty,Fiat India director (commercial) Ananda Mohan Gupta said

 

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/124935.html

 

"Fiat has volunteered to pay the import duty on Sachin Tendulkar's controversial new Ferrari. 

While the move will generate plenty of positive publicity for Fiat in India, the fact remains that they should have done exactly this in the first place: brought the Ferrari into India by paying the import duty in question, and only then gifted it to Tendulkar. It would be unfair of them to give Tendulkar a gift abroad on which he would have to pay a duty of 120%; it was equally unjust on the celebrity-struck government's part to waive the import duty due on the car, thus indicating that Tendulkar was above the law. "

[Vilander]

10 minutes ago, Vilander said:

The Rs 78-lakh car is part of a multi-crore endorsement deal that Sachin signed with Fiat three years ago.

so basically Sachin got the car as part of endorsement deal as a gift so that it does not come in as income that is taxable, but did not want to pay import duty on it, so asked for exemption and then sold it for undisclosed ammount..haha

 

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by Vilander

[Muloghonto]

13 minutes ago, Vilander said:

:)

 public opinion is not slander.

 

 

Public opinion that is false charge that injures a person's reputation, IS slander. Since he evaded nothing (as he was not charged with any evasion), you repeating this lie makes you a slanderer.

 

From your own quote:

 

" It would be unfair of them to give Tendulkar a gift abroad on which he would have to pay a duty of 120%"

 

As every sane person has noted. Case closed.

Edited November 9, 2018 by Muloghonto

[Vilander]

1 minute ago, Muloghonto said:

Public opinion that is false charge that injures a person's reputation, IS slander. Since he evaded nothing (as he was not charged with any evasion), you repeating this lie makes you a slanderer.

 

go talk to Times of India, India today and Cricinfo lolzz..

[Muloghonto]

Just now, Vilander said:

go talk to Times of India, India today and Cricinfo lolzz..

repeating something in news papers does not make it automatic slander-free, since many news papers have been successfully sued for slander.

In this case, Tendulkar simply stuck to his peerless conduct by not further getting involved. A true role model behaviour by any standards, unlike Virat 'the Hitler' Kohli.

 

[Vilander]

23 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

charges over him being too childish over internet posts.

 

5 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

false charge that injures a person's reputation, IS slander. Since he evaded nothing (as he was not charged with any evasion), you repeating this lie makes you a slanderer.

Decide this way or that 

 

how can childish internet posts become injurious to a celebrities reputation.. this way or that dude. 

[Vilander]

2 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

stuck to his peerless conduct

certainly peerless based on the above listed news paper reports..

[Muloghonto]

6 minutes ago, Vilander said:

certainly peerless based on the above listed news paper reports..

Not at all. Plenty of people have applied for the same exemption and do it all the time. 

[Muloghonto]

8 minutes ago, Vilander said:

 

Decide this way or that 

 

how can childish internet posts become injurious to a celebrities reputation.. this way or that dude. 

Because thats what slander means. Look up the definition of the term.

 

[Vilander]

27 minutes ago, Under_Score said:

Read my post again, did I mention anything about your wife in that post? 

In the past you have yourselves claimed that you hate to fold your wife's laundry. Never have I once mentioned anything about your wife to this day....you claim to be a very intelligent person, all the fake bravado you show on forums....you are just gutter class type of person who just lives about an hour's drive from where I live and yet are afraid to meet in person. You keep doing this, one day I'll dig you out of your rat hole. Now continue your fake internet bravado...I got better things to do...Cheers!!

oh you guys both are in BC, Vancouver ?, i missed my chance to relocate..hate the snow here. 

[Khota]

2 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

Everyone can apply for exemption. Rich people WILL enjoy some leeway compared to poor people, because money brings more contacts and social interest. As long as no bribery is being paid, there is no issue. Obviously an engineer will be in a position to get more help from his friends than a rickshaw driver. Obviously a tycoon will have far more ability to get favors from his friends than an engineer. These are simple realities of life. 

Why is it even a question of humanity and empathy ? Anyone can apply for an exemption to import duty and celebrities will get an easier time getting approved than no-names. Thats how it is and should be - thats what being celebrities mean and thats the perk they get to enjoy for being a celebrity. Just like how they get to put up with the ills of being celebrities that we don't- we don't have to deal with an army of people asking us for autographs while all we want to do is go walk outside, or be concerned with some dude hiding in our bushes to take a picture of us to sell to the newspapers. 

Famous people will always enjoy an advantage in discretionary calls over non-famous people. Thats just called being famous, nothing good or bad about it. 

And that is the point you are missing. India is a democratic republic and everyone has the same rights. Where does the constitution say that rich people have more rights?

[Muloghonto]

1 minute ago, Khota said:

And that is the point you are missing. India is a democratic republic and everyone has the same rights. Where does the constitution say that rich people have more rights?

nowhere, which is why they dont have more rights. 

Discretionary waivers are not rights, they are discretionary. You act like only celebrities EVER get customs waivers- they don't. They are more LIKELY to get it - which is perfectly fine. Perks of being a celebrity. 

[Khota]

6 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

nowhere, which is why they dont have more rights. 

Discretionary waivers are not rights, they are discretionary. You act like only celebrities EVER get customs waivers- they don't. They are more LIKELY to get it - which is perfectly fine. Perks of being a celebrity. 

No it is not fine. Where is the outrage? Why are they so special? They are not better than you and I.

[Khota]

1 hour ago, Vilander said:

:)

 public opinion is not slander.

 

 

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tendulkar/Sachin-allowed-to-import-Ferrari-duty-free/articleshow/21214323.cms

 

"Tendulkar who was gifted the car, had written to yashwant sinha requesting consideration of exemption of duty, a copy of the letter was also sent to Pramod mahajan who also requested the finance minister to waive the duty"

 

Tendulkar, who was gifted the car by Formula One ace Michael Schumacher on behalf of Fiat, had written to Sinha requesting consideration of exemption of duty keeping in mind some past instances. A copy of the letter was sent to Mahajan who also requested the Finance Minister to waive the duty.

 

 

https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/indiascope/story/20030825-sachin-tendulkar-receives-tax-exemption-for-importing-his-ferrari-791920-2003-08-25

 

"

Sachin Tendulkar receives tax-exemption for importing his Ferrari

Disgruntled taxpayers of the nation, unite. You have nothing to lose but your hero worship."

HERO TO ZERO: Sachin Tendulkar with his new Ferrari

No one grudges the modern master blaster his fleet of fast cars: the Ferrari now burning rubber with a Mercedes 600SL or a BMW SUV. 

But asking for a duty wavier pushes at the envelope - of trying to cash in on his own celebrity. After all, shouldn't grown-up rich boys be paying for their toys? Grown-up men in government certainly should not try to be reduced to becoming the fan on the street."

 

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cricket/Sachin-finally-gets-his-Ferrari/articleshow/69659.cms

 

The Rs 78-lakh car is part of a multi-crore endorsement deal that Sachin signed with Fiat three years ago. Normally, it takes about 14 months from the time of ordering. But it in this case, the car is being delivered ahead of schedule,the official added.

 

The Ferrari car had raised a lot of dust when Sachin had approached the finance ministry seeking a waiver of the 120 per cent peak customs duty to import the car. While the government was considering an ad hoc waiver in this case, fears of a public interest litigation and charges from the opposition forced the centre to reverse its stand. We have footed the import duty bill, and have paid a little over Rs 1 crore as import duty,Fiat India director (commercial) Ananda Mohan Gupta said

 

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/story/124935.html

 

"Fiat has volunteered to pay the import duty on Sachin Tendulkar's controversial new Ferrari. 

While the move will generate plenty of positive publicity for Fiat in India, the fact remains that they should have done exactly this in the first place: brought the Ferrari into India by paying the import duty in question, and only then gifted it to Tendulkar. It would be unfair of them to give Tendulkar a gift abroad on which he would have to pay a duty of 120%; it was equally unjust on the celebrity-struck government's part to waive the import duty due on the car, thus indicating that Tendulkar was above the law. "

This is more complicated than what it appears. He signed a deal to promote fiat and that was compensation being paid for being a brand ambassador. That is a disguised income and this man should be paying taxes on it.

 

Those of you who think this is OK go study what German Government did with Steffi graff when she did not pay taxes. taxes are taxes and they need to be paid.

[Muloghonto]

1 hour ago, Khota said:

No it is not fine. Where is the outrage? Why are they so special? They are not better than you and I.

it is perfectly fine. As i said, its the perk of being a celebrity - they get prefferential treatment over discretionary things. They also have major drawbacks- such as lack of privacy, so some perks to cancel out some drawbacks are perfectly fine.

 

[Muloghonto]

2 hours ago, Vilander said:

oh you guys both are in BC, Vancouver ?, i missed my chance to relocate..hate the snow here. 

u in T-dot ?

why did you miss your chance ?! Btw, snow and -25 sucks but 95% of days between Nov and March being totally dark and drizzling cold rain is also quite depressing.

[Muloghonto]

1 hour ago, Khota said:

This is more complicated than what it appears. He signed a deal to promote fiat and that was compensation being paid for being a brand ambassador. That is a disguised income and this man should be paying taxes on it.

 

Those of you who think this is OK go study what German Government did with Steffi graff when she did not pay taxes. taxes are taxes and they need to be paid.

No it is not. Otherwise all gifts are disguised income. Steffi graf didn't pay import duties over gifts either.And it was her FATHER who was on hook for being a tax fraud,not her.

[beetle]

6 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

He is getting no undue benefits

Only the country was losing 1 crore + in duty that would have gone towards the running of the country.

 

From now everyone can start getting gifts from employers ( he was advertising for the gifters at one time.... I think ) instead of pay checks .

 

Similarly he was trying to pass a favor with the defence ministry for his ex partner ...again ,a rather convenient arrangement.

 

The  god of yours is very morally flexible when it comes to money .