India A Tour of NZ

[SK_IH]

Krunal completely failed in this series

[rkt.india]

On 12/10/2018 at 9:08 AM, Lannister said:

KL is not a middle order option. As of now, Pandey has proved himself in list A cricket and should get a chance ahead of CSK quota Rayudud. 

Rayudu anyday over Pandey

[ShoonyaSifar]

On 12/10/2018 at 9:08 AM, Lannister said:

KL is not a middle order option. As of now, Pandey has proved himself in list A cricket and should get a chance ahead of CSK quota Rayudud. 

Rayudu proved himself in international ODI and has locked his place. Also, if a selector watched Pandey's batting in this series, he would not be very impressed. Whole technique of backing away from leg stump almost every time looked so very ugly to watch. Kudos to him for scoring runs, but that technique will not work for him in int'l cricket. Doesn't seem to have improved technique much since he last played for India. 

 

A personal question, do you ever think beyond the Karnataka players? I am new to the forum, so am genuinely interested to know.

[Lannister]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Rayudu anyday over Pandey

WC will not be played on slow Indian wickets, where Rayudu can sweep spinners for boundaries. 

 

He will get his face smashed in by the bouncers. 

[Lannister]

1 hour ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Rayudu proved himself in international ODI and has locked his place. Also, if a selector watched Pandey's batting in this series, he would not be very impressed. Whole technique of backing away from leg stump almost every time looked so very ugly to watch. Kudos to him for scoring runs, but that technique will not work for him in int'l cricket. Doesn't seem to have improved technique much since he last played for India. 

 

A personal question, do you ever think beyond the Karnataka players? I am new to the forum, so am genuinely interested to know.

What Rayudu has proved so far is he can bash minnow teams on slow SC wickets. He is yet to tour outside Asia, so let's not jump to any conclusions and make him look like some kind of superior batsman. 

 

Besides, his ODI selection was based on his IPL exploits. Earlier this year he played A games against Australia and was struggling even on Indian wickets. 

 

When did you start watching Cricket? Don't get confused with Pandey's poor T20 records to his abilities in 50 over format. 

[rkt.india]

15 minutes ago, Lannister said:

WC will not be played on slow Indian wickets, where Rayudu can sweep spinners for boundaries. 

 

He will get his face smashed in by the bouncers. 

Pandey is no Ponting against Bouncers and is worse against moving balls.

[Lannister]

1 minute ago, rkt.india said:

Pandey is no Ponting against Bouncers and is worse against moving balls.

Pandey already scored a century in Australia. He is in a good form in recent 'A' games. 

[King Tendulkar]

Pandey is not good enough to play for India.  Poor technique.  Poor off side player, backs away to make room, we can do better and do have better

 

Krunal is not good enough as shown by this tour, Street cricketer.  Let him stick to IPL fun

[King Tendulkar]

1 hour ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Rayudu proved himself in international ODI and has locked his place. Also, if a selector watched Pandey's batting in this series, he would not be very impressed. Whole technique of backing away from leg stump almost every time looked so very ugly to watch. Kudos to him for scoring runs, but that technique will not work for him in int'l cricket. Doesn't seem to have improved technique much since he last played for India. 

 

A personal question, do you ever think beyond the Karnataka players? I am new to the forum, so am genuinely interested to know.

agree

[ShoonyaSifar]

11 minutes ago, Lannister said:

What Rayudu has proved so far is he can bash minnow teams on slow SC wickets. He is yet to tour outside Asia, so let's not jump to any conclusions and make him look like some kind of superior batsman. 

 

Besides, his ODI selection was based on his IPL exploits. Earlier this year he played A games against Australia and was struggling even on Indian wickets. 

 

When did you start watching Cricket? Don't get confused with Pandey's poor T20 records to his abilities in 50 over format. 

Since mid 80s if that helps.

 

I'd anyday take a batsman who has scored in int'l cricket (minnows, slow wickets anything will do) against someone who has performed in A cricket but hasn't yet done much inint'l cricket. And what I saw in the two NZ A ODIs tell me that ugly technique of backing away from leg stump almost every delivery will not be very successful.

 

One area where Pandey scores massively over Rayudu is his fielding, which is why I wouldn't mind him being in the squad of 15.

 

BTW I am no fan of Rayudu, am only speaking relatively. Don't think either Rayudu or Pandey are solutions to our middle order woes. Need to look at some younger batsmen like Shubman Gill and even Pant as a specialist batsman.

[Ankit_sharma03]

42 minutes ago, Lannister said:

What Rayudu has proved so far is he can bash minnow teams on slow SC wickets. He is yet to tour outside Asia, so let's not jump to any conclusions and make him look like some kind of superior batsman. 

Rayudu has batted overseas in Aus n NZ n failed both times 

42 minutes ago, Lannister said:

When did you start watching Cricket? Don't get confused with Pandey's poor T20 records to his abilities in 50 over format. 

Pandey has nothing to show apart from

 

a 100 in Aus

 

58 minutes ago, Lannister said:

WC will not be played on slow Indian wickets, where Rayudu can sweep spinners for boundaries. 

WC will be played on flat decks of England which 

will turn as tournament progress- manish pandey struggles on such wkts

And might seam few days due to overcast condition- agains pandey struggles their to

 

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, Lannister said:

He will get his face smashed in by the bouncers. 

this is how pandey plays bouncers

 

On 12/9/2018 at 1:45 PM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

Again

 

On 12/9/2018 at 1:23 PM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Today manish

 

What is this way of playing bouncers

Satyanash hi hia iska bhi bouncers ke against 

 

 

The best option is Rahul .......but has has found bad form at a very wrong time 

[Lannister]

44 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

I'd anyday take a batsman who has scored in int'l cricket (minnows, slow wickets anything will do) against someone who has performed in A cricket but hasn't yet done much inint'l cricket.

In just 2-3 months, Pandey has scored 4-5 centuries in A games. On what basis he was sidelined from the team for someone like Rayudu? This doesn't seem right. 

 

48 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

And what I saw in the two NZ A ODIs tell me that ugly technique of backing away from leg stump almost every delivery will not be very successful.

Many have said the same thing about Steven Smith. In the end, runs matter not how stylish you look. Besides, Rayudu is hardly considered stylish. 

 

53 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

TW I am no fan of Rayudu, am only speaking relatively. Don't think either Rayudu or Pandey are solutions to our middle order woes. Need to look at some younger batsmen like Shubman Gill and even Pant as a specialist batsman.

I think Pandey is ahead of these two as of now, but they will get their chance once other spots have opened up. 

[Lannister]

48 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

WC will be played on flat decks of England which 

will turn as tournament progress- manish pandey struggles on such wkts

And might seam few days due to overcast condition- agains pandey struggles their to

In CT finals, both Ashwin and Jadeja were made to look like amateurs. I am not sure about spin being the main factor in England. 

Pandey is a leading run-scorer in A games and that's what matters, not some assumptions. 

Edited December 11, 2018 by Lannister

[SK_IH]

India sweep the series , @Ankit_sharma03 bhai mubarak ho Kaul took 4 wkts 

[SK_IH]

Gowtham has been impressive throughout the series

[Ankit_sharma03]

17 minutes ago, Lannister said:

In CT finals, both Ashwin and Jadeja were made to look like amateurs. I am not sure about spin being the main factor in England. 

CT is not as long a tournament as WC is , so wkts does wear n tear 

Also if ashwin n jadeja struggled doesnt mean everyone wud

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Pandey is a leading run-scorer in A games and that's what matters, not some assumptions. 

He always scores in A games and fails to translate in International cricket 

Edited December 11, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03

[Lannister]

7 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Gowtham has been impressive throughout the series

@ShoonyaSifar don't blame me if Karnataka players are doing well. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

19 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

India sweep the series , @Ankit_sharma03 bhai mubarak ho Kaul took 4 wkts 

Selectors wud be giving a smug look right now n patting their backs as acc to them they unearthed the next malcom marshal 

 

[ShoonyaSifar]

29 minutes ago, Lannister said:

In CT finals, both Ashwin and Jadeja was made to like amateurs. I am not sure about spin being the main factor in England. 

Pandey is a leading run-scorer in A games and that's what matters, not some assumptions. 

Deepak Chahar and Sid Kaul have been the leading wicket takers in A side in LOIs. Should they be picked?