All Rounders do not exist.

[Straight Drive]

10 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

cnt blame them alone ...honestly option nhin hai 

At max they can tell hooda, nair, vihari, iyer, rana to bowl more in domestic 

 

 

 

but at 1st they ll have to earn place as batsman which i dnt see them doing in LOI ahead of shaw, gill, pant , rahul rest kohli, rohit, dhawan are fixed 

 

Solution is play both pandya bros....they give each other cushion in bowling and develop them by playing more n more...this is why Mumbai Indian do so well 

 

N if one is injured have someone like shankar n start selecting dube to A-games and see how good or bad he is 

Not having good options is a failure of a system - cricketing system in this instance.Strategies, player development, succession planning are key roles which are expected from those involved in cricketing system of a country.

[Ankit_sharma03]

7 hours ago, Khota said:

One team did bad because someone was masquerading as a bowler who had no place on the team.

our team did bad becoz of various reasons, which doesnt suit ur agenda

 

1. bad fielding

2. even khaleel went for runs

3. Pant throwing wkt at wrong time

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 hours ago, Khota said:

 

If someone is not a genuine allrounder then they should be in the team based on their batting or bowling skill. I dont think any Pandya can walk into the team based on one skill.

both pandya can walk into this team as specialist lower order hitters in LOI

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

both pandya can walk into this team as specialist lower order hitters in LOI

 

The importance of high SR lower-middle order batsmen in ODIs and T20s ...  who can start scoring immediately and are big hitters preferably ...  is somehow missed by so many people.

 

Hardik Pandya has the highest SR  (  115  )   in the history of Indian ODI cricket  ( min 500 runs ).   This at a decent average of around 30 for a No.7 batter.

 

And he has a T20I  SR of 153. 

 

Hardik Pandya's place in the test side maybe questioned ...  But he can make it to the Indian ODI and T20I team just as a high SR lower-middle order batsman.

 

Krunal shows similar potential ...  But he has not proved anything yet at international level  (   and neither has he got the chance to do so ).  So I can understand any scepticism regarding him.

Edited November 22, 2018 by express bowling

[Nikhil_cric]

14 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

do u see any team using that ?? No na 

coz it doesnt work 

Every other team is doing that. SA play Phehluk trundler at 7 for his bowling not batting as he has not had a single fifty in his career. They are better off playing another strike bowler. OZ are playing Stoinis at 7 who averages 40+ with the bat but is useless with the ball. He's playing as a batsman. Pakistan play Shadab and Faheem at 7 and 8 and both of them are definitely bowlers first. So who are these allrounders? The problem with India is not the lack of tail. Its 4,5 and 6. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Every other team is doing that. SA play Phehluk trundler at 7 for his bowling not batting as he has not had a single fifty in his career.

At 7 its not easy to get 50 

Also i think morris has been injured n was struggling for form or else they ll play morris 

1 minute ago, Nikhil_cric said:

They are better off playing another strike bowler. OZ are playing Stoinis at 7 who averages 40+ with the bat but is useless with the ball. He's playing as a batsman. Pakistan play Shadab and Faheem at 7 and 8 and both of them are definitely bowlers first. So who are these allrounders? The problem with India is not the lack of tail. Its 4,5 and 6. 

their in lies ur answer all are playing player who contribute in 2 dept

playing another s/r bowler affects their batting thats why no one is playing 

 

Stonis plays as all rounder . Faheem plays as all rounder

[Nikhil_cric]

Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said:

At 7 its not easy to get 50 

Also i think morris has been injured n was struggling for form or else they ll play morris 

their in lies ur answer all are playing player who contribute in 2 dept

playing another s/r bowler affects their batting thats why no one is playing 

 

Stonis plays as all rounder . Faheem plays as all rounder

How is that an answer? I'm showing that these guys are clearly selected for either their batting or bowling. What has faheem,andile done with the bat at all. What has stoinis done with the ball? 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, Nikhil_cric said:

How is that an answer? I'm showing that these guys are clearly selected for either their batting or bowling. What has faheem,andile done with the bat at all. What has stoinis done with the ball? 

they are selected coz they can contribute in 2 dept and lend balance to team

What they have done or not is a diff thing 

Captain select them coz they give him option in 2 dept. 

 

Faheem has jst played 16 odi games, to early to say nything

[Straight Drive]

56 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

The importance of high SR lower-middle order batsmen in ODIs and T20s ...  who can start scoring immediately and are big hitters preferably ...  is somehow missed by so many people.

 

Hardik Pandya has the highest SR  (  115  )   in the history of Indian ODI cricket  ( min 500 runs ).   This at a respectable average of around 30 for a No.7 batter.

 

And he has a T20I  SR of 153. 

 

Hardik Pandya's place in the test side maybe questioned ...  But he can make it to the Indian ODI and T20I team just as a high SR lower-middle order batsman.

 

Krunal shows similar potential ...  But he has not proved anything yet at international level  (   and neither has he got the chance to do so ).  So I can understand any scepticism regarding him.

ODI he is having a good utility and performance.That strike rate and average is very much acceptable with bat at that batting order.In ODI he is a perfect  fit given his performances so far.

[Khota]

6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

our team did bad becoz of various reasons, which doesnt suit ur agenda

 

1. bad fielding

2. even khaleel went for runs

3. Pant throwing wkt at wrong time

 

Never did I deny that. I was just pointing to the smoking gun which were the half a century he conceded in bowling.

[Khota]

6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

both pandya can walk into this team as specialist lower order hitters in LOI

I have no idea what you are talking about.

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, Khota said:

Never did I deny that. I was just pointing to the smoking gun which were the half a century he conceded in bowling.

as if main bowlers dnt go for that many runs

Didnt khaleel got smocked for runs

didnt chahal got bajaoed in SA for 64 runs

 

u wnt point out that coz it doesnt suit ur agenda

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 hours ago, Khota said:

I have no idea what you are talking about.

I knw, their is a lack of understanding of modern cricket with u 

 

[Khota]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

as if main bowlers dnt go for that many runs

Didnt khaleel got smocked for runs

didnt chahal got bajaoed in SA for 64 runs

 

u wnt point out that coz it doesnt suit ur agenda

Only person who has an agenda here is you. You want both brothers to play. Do they have a sister too that you want to play for the women's team?

 

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

I knw, their is a lack of understanding of modern cricket with u 

 

I am extremely progressive.

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, Khota said:

Only person who has an agenda here is you. You want both brothers to play. Do they have a sister too that you want to play for the women's team?

Only Me 

half ICF wants them to play coz they give u balance and power thats been missing since ages

 

Why do u think MI is such a good IPL side, its a lot coz of them and ofcourse not counting bumrah n rohit out . But they both toghter have made that side rich in quality 

[Khota]

13 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Only Me 

half ICF wants them to play coz they give u balance and power thats been missing since ages

 

Why do u think MI is such a good IPL side, its a lot coz of them and ofcourse not counting bumrah n rohit out . But they both toghter have made that side rich in quality 

There is saying in coaching circles;"If you listen to fans you will be sitting with fans."

[Ankit_sharma03]

7 minutes ago, Khota said:

There is saying in coaching circles;"If you listen to fans you will be sitting with fans."

 

18 hours ago, Khota said:

It is barely 600 years that people realized earth goes around the sun. No worries.

ICF has found its very own sidhu .....faaltu ki baaten lekin koi fact nhin 

 

 

Edited November 22, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03

[Khota]

59 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

ICF has found its very own sidhu .....faaltu ki baaten lekin koi fact nhin 

 

 

 

KH Pandya  55 runs

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, Khota said:

 

KH Pandya  55 runs

So 

Chahal went for 64 runs in SA (its more then 55)

 

t20 men sabko maar padti hai

 

If ur trying to imply pandya bros has no right to fail and it serves ur agenda.....ill take ur point 

Still cricket is a human game and every one has off days

[cowboysfan]

I dont care T20s at all but one thing i know about LOIs is that you dont drop a proven wickettaker for a allrounder who is neither good at batting or bowling.