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4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

he was pretty good for Pune in 2017 , 138 was his s/r 

 

and most team need a middle order batsman with a good s/r and who plays spin well (which overseas players lack ), he is one of the best players of spin in the country, good fielder, bowls a bit to

 

what issues ??? 

 

 

 

Can he bowl? No. Is he he a top-class fielder? No.  Can he come in and get you boundaries early in his innings? No.  Cumulative stats can mislead in T20s.  There are a lot of more fine-grained statistics, such as balls per boundary, effective strike rate based on which phase of the game - i.e. power-play, death overs, middle etc that can give you a vastly more accurate picture what a batsman brings to the table.  If he's so good, why did 8 teams pass on him?  

 

This is not ODI cricket where you want a lot of accumulators who can hit opportunistic boundaries.  Its a short format game where guys who can take risks and bat unselfish on a regular basis offer more value than a high-average but relatively low power batsman.  That's just the way it works.  

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3 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Can he bowl? No. Is he he a top-class fielder? No.  Can he come in and get you boundaries early in his innings? No.  Cumulative stats can mislead in T20s.  There are a lot of more fine-grained statistics, such as balls per boundary, effective strike rate based on which phase of the game - i.e. power-play, death overs, middle etc that can give you a vastly more accurate picture what a batsman brings to the table.  If he's so good, why did 8 teams pass on him?  

 

This is not ODI cricket where you want a lot of accumulators who can hit opportunistic boundaries.  Its a short format game where guys who can take risks and bat unselfish on a regular basis offer more value than a high-average but relatively low power batsman.  That's just the way it works.  

 

his IPL stats are pretty bad actually .. more than that he stay injured and bench for most of the season

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Just now, sandeep said:

Can he bowl? No.

Yes he can

Can bowl leg spin and even jadhav type low arm deilveries 

 

but not more then 1-2 over which is still enough as 6th bowler

Just now, sandeep said:

 

Is he he a top-class fielder? No. 

He was one the best in countries, still not bad and yuvraj is a minus on field 

Just now, sandeep said:

Can he come in and get you boundaries early in his innings?

He did that pretty well for PWI

Just now, sandeep said:

No.  Cumulative stats can mislead in T20s. 

M talking about one season not 10, he has changed his game a bit 

Just now, sandeep said:

There are a lot of more fine-grained statistics, such as balls per boundary, effective strike rate based on which phase of the game - i.e. power-play, death overs, middle etc that can give you a vastly more accurate picture what a batsman brings to the table.  If he's so good, why did 8 teams pass on him?  

M pretty shocked about teams not going for him

Last season didnt go well for him but KXIP wasted him at start and by that time he got his chances may be lacked rhythm 

Just now, sandeep said:

 

This is not ODI cricket where you want a lot of accumulators who can hit opportunistic boundaries.  Its a short format game where guys who can take risks and bat unselfish on a regular basis offer more value than a high-average but relatively low power batsman.  That's just the way it works.  

Manoj Tiwary, who has scored 317 runs in 12 innings at a strike rate of 139.03

hows is this guy an accumaltor 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, velu said:

 

his IPL stats are pretty bad actually .. more than that he stay injured and bench for most of the season

coz he wasnt good in t20 for many yrs but he worked on his game n was an asset in 2017 for PWI

Dhoni wasnt gr8 in IPL for many yrs and it was diff dhoni last yr 

 

things can change, tiwary is no gr8 but not bad that he cant be picked. He cud have been handy for sides likes RCB, RR 

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4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

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My XI

 

  1. Parthiv
  2. Kohli 
  3. Abdv
  4. hetmyer 
  5. Shivam Dubey 
  6. Akashdeep nath/Sundar
  7. NCN
  8. Southee
  9. Umesh
  10. Chahal 
  11. Kulwant/sundar

 

Another option - Open with sundar, play klassen in middle 

 

  1. Sundar
  2. Kohli 
  3. Abdv
  4. hetmyer 
  5. Shivam Dubey 
  6. KLassen
  7. Nath 
  8. Southee
  9. Umesh
  10. Chahal 
  11. Kulwant

 

This i dnt like as bowling doesnt look that gr8 as in 1st option

 

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9 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Yes he can

Can bowl leg spin and even jadhav type low arm deilveries 

 

but not more then 1-2 over which is still enough as 6th bowler

He was one the best in countries, still not bad and yuvraj is a minus on field 

He did that pretty well for PWI

M talking about one season not 10, he has changed his game a bit 

M pretty shocked about teams not going for him

Last season didnt go well for him but KXIP wasted him at start and by that time he got his chances may be lacked rhythm 

Manoj Tiwary, who has scored 317 runs in 12 innings at a strike rate of 139.03

hows is this guy an accumaltor 

 

 

Check this performance in 2018, its pathetic

 

Matches - 5

Runs: 47

Highest: 35

Average : 15.66

SR: 106.81

 

He is one of the worst picks.  Who bought him ?

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10 hours ago, sandeep said:

Can he bowl? No. Is he he a top-class fielder? No.  Can he come in and get you boundaries early in his innings? No.  Cumulative stats can mislead in T20s.  There are a lot of more fine-grained statistics, such as balls per boundary, effective strike rate based on which phase of the game - i.e. power-play, death overs, middle etc that can give you a vastly more accurate picture what a batsman brings to the table.  If he's so good, why did 8 teams pass on him?  

 

This is not ODI cricket where you want a lot of accumulators who can hit opportunistic boundaries.  Its a short format game where guys who can take risks and bat unselfish on a regular basis offer more value than a high-average but relatively low power batsman.  That's just the way it works.  

Yes.  Yes.

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10 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

My XI

 

  1. Parthiv
  2. Kohli 
  3. Abdv
  4. hetmyer 
  5. Shivam Dubey 
  6. Akashdeep nath/Sundar
  7. NCN
  8. Southee
  9. Umesh
  10. Chahal 
  11. Kulwant/sundar

 

Another option - Open with sundar, play klassen in middle 

 

  1. Sundar
  2. Kohli 
  3. Abdv
  4. hetmyer 
  5. Shivam Dubey 
  6. KLassen
  7. Nath 
  8. Southee
  9. Umesh
  10. Chahal 
  11. Kulwant

 

This i dnt like as bowling doesnt look that gr8 as in 1st option

 

Enough of Kohli and AB in the top order. Both should take up the responsibility and bat one position lower for the benefit of the team. 

 

Parthiv Patel 

Akshadeep Nath

Kohli

Hetmyer 

AB

Shivam 

Sundar 

NCN 

Southee 

Umesh

Chahal 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Jamadagni said:

Enough of Kohli and AB in the top order. Both should take up the responsibility and bat one position lower for the benefit of the team. 

 

Parthiv Patel 

Akshadeep Nath

Kohli

Hetmyer 

AB

Shivam 

Sundar 

NCN 

Southee 

Umesh

Chahal 

 

 

their best season was when they batted above, ur best batsman shud get max no of balls and they are the best......now they have hetymer n dube to so give them the base. Nath mostly bats in middle lower order

n why wud u waste a guy like ab at 5 .....giving him such less balls 

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1 hour ago, Straight Drive said:

Check this performance in 2018, its pathetic

 

Matches - 5

Runs: 47

Highest: 35

Average : 15.66

SR: 106.81

 

He is one of the worst picks.  Who bought him ?

he had a bad season but mostly he in 2nd half aLL KXIP, by that logic mayank had whole bad season .....so was finch

A lot of the times franchises are not able to use someone well......Look how many players are wasted in RCB and then they go to some other franchise and its a diff story 

 

Its how u use them, the same guy was an asset for PWI 

He was unsold no one bought him

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1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

their best season was when they batted above, ur best batsman shud get max no of balls and they are the best......now they have hetymer n dube to so give them the base. Nath mostly bats in middle lower order

n why wud u waste a guy like ab at 5 .....giving him such less balls 

That holds true if you have a decent lower order. Just give full license to openers. If they fail, Kohli and co would stabilize the innings.. If they succeed, Kohli and co would keep the momentum going. 

 

The other way around doesn't work with this team. 

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