mishra Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Jaddu is not an off break bowler. Yes but still closest to that. Watch Roy bat. You will find that faster it comes, faster he dispactches. the way his bat mooves there is error in judgement if ball is slightly turning in. So he decides to defend them Link to comment
figo6762 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Jaddu is not an off break bowler. Point is for some reason finger spinners work against them ... ball doesn’t turn flatter .. Link to comment
Khota Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, figo6762 said: Who will u replace him with ... don’t see him making it ... ro ra ko pa dh hapa jad kul bhu bum sha I might take him over Pant but he needs to prove it in SL game. To be more conservative he can come in place of Jadhav who has not bowled any. Edited July 4, 2019 by Khota Link to comment
sergio04 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Rohit Rahul Virat Pant Pandya DK Bhuvi Dhoni Kuldeep Chahal Bumrah Link to comment
Amit228 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 One thing is sure we are not playing kulcha together in game against England.. if England gets a wood against them in starting of their spell.. then their 20 overs together will leave india out of the game.. a la their previous spell against England which went for 160 runs.. now if one of them plays then Kuldeep can get a nod ahead of chahal.. however he also gets timid when opposition attacks him nd doesn't possess alternative plan B.. what Kuldeep nd chahal needs to comprehend is now pitch being slow.. opposition batsmen can adjust to slowness nd can cart them around.. change of pace is required with average pace around 85kmph not their usual one of less 70-80kmph.. i will be tempted to play jadeja instead of kulcha as he can get maximum out of a slow track.. with England if u tie them out they will eventually hand over their wickets.. as with the high risk brand of cricket they are playing.. so a darter can actually do more good in these kinds of track. Link to comment
Vijy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 try mayank at opening against SLand see how he does. if he does well move KLR to middle order. shami should play but not bowl in the death. need BBS + chahal + pandya. either jaddu or jadhav has to play to provide 6th bowler cover. Link to comment
bowl_out Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Vijy said: try mayank at opening against SLand see how he does. if he does well move KLR to middle order. shami should play but not bowl in the death. need BBS + chahal + pandya. either jaddu or jadhav has to play to provide 6th bowler cover. Instead how about continue with KL opening and have Mayank play at 4 and Pant at 5. Mayank can be the stable no. 4 that we've been looking for Link to comment
srh08 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, bowl_out said: Instead how about continue with KL opening and have Mayank play at 4 and Pant at 5. Mayank can be the stable no. 4 that we've been looking for Who will be the 3 bowlers (+Bumrah) in this case? Link to comment
Vijy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, bowl_out said: Instead how about continue with KL opening and have Mayank play at 4 and Pant at 5. Mayank can be the stable no. 4 that we've been looking for may also work. it has the benefit of demoting dhongi to 7, after pandya at 6. Link to comment
Cricketphile Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I think it’s too late to bring in Agarwal now. Rahul Rohit Kohli Pant Dhoni Jadhav/Jadeja Pandya Bhuvi Shami Chahal Bumrah sri Lanka traditionally play spin well and we have to prepare for the semis against England (most likely) as well. Kuldeep also is not his best touch and both Bhuvi and shami have done well. This improves our batting as well and give us 6 bowling options as well Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 How confident are you guys about Mayank clicking right of the bat. Link to comment
srh08 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said: How confident are you guys about Mayank clicking right of the bat. Anything can happen on a given day, but he seems like the stability we need at 4 or 1, given his List A and India A performances Link to comment
Vijy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: How confident are you guys about Mayank clicking right of the bat. not a lot, even though I rate him highly in general. Link to comment
Cricketphile Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 The new gen of Indian players seem to all respond well to pressure, probably because of the IPL. Mayank did well in the Melbourne test, Vihari was alright in that same series, Pant has done well in the 2 games. However, do we need to play mayank, when pant and Rahul have both done enough to justify their persistence. The only spot open may be Jadhavs but then the 6th bowling may be important and if anything, Jadeja is a better sub considering the bowling and fielding as well Link to comment
bowl_out Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, srh08 said: Who will be the 3 bowlers (+Bumrah) in this case? Dhoni at 6 (can even play DK in the SL game). Pandya at 7 4 bowlers Link to comment
srh08 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, bowl_out said: Dhoni at 6 (can even play DK in the SL game). Pandya at 7 4 bowlers I assumed that those two will be 6&7. Specifically asking WHO will be the 3 bowlers (also assuming Bumrah is a given) Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/4/2019 at 5:57 PM, vvvslaxman said: Jadeja at 7 is a suicide mission. India needs to have a decent enough batting arsenal to engage England in a battathon on a flat wicket. The problem is a guy like DK is wasted at 7 especially when Dhoni is going to ensure that he has a maximum of 2-3 overs to bat.Agreed DK can manage to start hitting from the first ball,but every day is not going to be Nidahas final. This is where Dhoni/TM must curb their ego and play DK at 6,if there is a collapse then responsibility is on Dhoni to marshall the tail and get to a decent total. Link to comment
Cricketphile Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, GautiMaan said: The problem is a guy like DK is wasted at 7 especially when Dhoni is going to ensure that he has a maximum of 2-3 overs to bat.Agreed DK can manage to start hitting from the first ball,but every day is not going to be Nidahas final. This is where Dhoni/TM must curb their ego and play DK at 6,if there is a collapse then responsibility is on Dhoni to marshall the tail and get to a decent total. The other option is to play Dhoni or Jadhav at 4, then Jadhav or Dhoni at 5, Pandya 6, Pant 7, Bhuvi 8 Link to comment
srh08 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, GautiMaan said: The problem is a guy like DK is wasted at 7 especially when Dhoni is going to ensure that he has a maximum of 2-3 overs to bat.Agreed DK can manage to start hitting from the first ball,but every day is not going to be Nidahas final. This is where Dhoni/TM must curb their ego and play DK at 6,if there is a collapse then responsibility is on Dhoni to marshall the tail and get to a decent total. DK SR in odis is 77 for the last 2 years (73 career SR). It is unlikely he can hit at 100+ coming in early. Too often people think, IMO mistakenly, that his T20 ability will transfer to ODIs Also Jadeja averages 16@70 SR in the last 3 years. Between Jadhav and Jadeja: Jadeja might save 15 runs fielding and 15 runs bowling. Jadhav might score 30 extra batting. Its likely a wash Edited July 6, 2019 by srh08 Vijy 1 Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, srh08 said: DK SR in odis is 77 for the last 2 years (73 career SR). It is unlikely he can hit at 100+ coming in early. Too often people think, IMO mistakenly, that his T20 ability will transfer to ODIs Might as well play Jadeja then for the bowling cushion. The way I see it DK is not a long term solution but if he manages to pull a Nidahas in the semis or final it will be worth it. Link to comment
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