Delhi India - BD games should be cancelled

[Real McCoy]

5 minutes ago, Khota said:

Agreed it should be cancelled. These players are running etc and their oxygen demand during game situation is quiet high. Their intake of pollutants is much higher than others who are sitting on stands. On principle this game should be cancelled.

And the spectators should be refunded and Delhi should not be given any games in this time.

 

PS - But principle matters less when is involved. Makes me puke. I believe if BCB pulls out, I would happily support it. We were saying how PCB were bullying SLC in the recent series. But we also bully BCB and SLC without saying anything. CA and ECB won't agree to this

Edited November 3, 2019 by Real McCoy

[Real McCoy]

7 minutes ago, beetle said:

They should take away all subsidies and ration cards from these stubble burning farmers. Fine them heavily and help the ones who don't burn with removing the crop waste.

Jai kisan...my foot!

 

Send the drones up to take pictures.

I would agree if the govt has already warned them not to do it. If the govt didn't, then the blame goes to the govt

[Khota]

1 minute ago, Real McCoy said:

And the spectators should be refunded and Delhi should not be given any games in this time.

Absolutely spectators should be refunded. Cricket is just a sport. Pollution is a hazard that needs to be taken care of.

[Khota]

10 minutes ago, beetle said:

They should take away all subsidies and ration cards from these stubble burning farmers. Fine them heavily and help the ones who don't burn with removing the crop waste.

Jai kisan...my foot!

 

Send the drones up to take pictures.

Stubble burning is not the main problem. It does contribute to the problem. Even before stubble burning starts AQI in delhi was toxic. Stubble burning is an excuse used by politicians to deflect. Lack of population control has ruined my birthplace.

[beetle]

1 minute ago, Khota said:

Stubble burning is not the main problem. It does contribute to the problem. Even before stubble burning starts AQI in delhi was toxic. Stubble burning is an excuse used by politicians to deflect. Lack of population control has ruined my birthplace.

If that was the case,things would be bad all year round.

It is always during stubble burning season which coincides with the lowering of temperatures.

[Khota]

1 minute ago, beetle said:

If that was the case,things would be bad all year round.

It is always during stubble burning season which coincides with the lowering of temperatures.

They are bad all year. Look at the AQI numbers.

[beetle]

6 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

I would agree if the govt has already warned them not to do it. If the govt didn't, then the blame goes to the govt

It is banned for the last few years.

Last year they had talked about heavy fines . In haryana,they even took drone pics but enforcement is very lax and rural votes are important...so nothing happens.

 

[Khota]

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Except for few days in August it is unhealthy all day everyday.

[Khota]

4 minutes ago, beetle said:

It is banned for the last few years.

Last year they had talked about heavy fines . In haryana,they even took drone pics but enforcement is very lax and rural votes are important...so nothing happens.

 

Farmers are barely making any money. It is very easy to preach.

[beetle]

Just now, Khota said:

Farmers are barely making any money. It is very easy to preach.

How are the farmers in the rest of the country managing ?

These guys just take the easiest way out even if it means choking north India.

 

There is no excuse for burning and polluting . The can plough and remove the roots...but that would mean work...aag laga do bas...

[Suhaan]

20 minutes ago, beetle said:

They should take away all subsidies and ration cards from these stubble burning farmers. Fine them heavily and help the ones who don't burn with removing the crop waste.

Jai kisan...my foot!

 

Send the drones up to take pictures.

Vote bank politics prohibits governments to take concrete action against the culprits

You will find everything politicized in this country,this one too will follow same route

 

[Real McCoy]

5 minutes ago, beetle said:

It is banned for the last few years.

Last year they had talked about heavy fines . In haryana,they even took drone pics but enforcement is very lax and rural votes are important...so nothing happens.

 

govt is all about fines but did they give any alternatives. Usually govt is at fault but the people taking the example from the govt to be equally self serving and corrupt. There has to be improvement on both fronts.

[rkt.india]

12 minutes ago, beetle said:

How are the farmers in the rest of the country managing ?

These guys just take the easiest way out even if it means choking north India.

 

There is no excuse for burning and polluting . The can plough and remove the roots...but that would mean work...aag laga do bas...

They burn stubble everywhere rice is harvested. They don't do it in other states. Mainly, haryana, Punjab, UK, and UP produce rice.

[Khota]

30 minutes ago, beetle said:

How are the farmers in the rest of the country managing ?

These guys just take the easiest way out even if it means choking north India.

 

There is no excuse for burning and polluting . The can plough and remove the roots...but that would mean work...aag laga do bas...

It is about profit margin. Burning is cheaper. Are you willing to pay the extra price for removal?

[Real McCoy]

12 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

They burn stubble everywhere rice is harvested. They don't do it in other states. Mainly, haryana, Punjab, UK, and UP produce rice.

Rice is harvested throughout India. What are you talking about? Hopefully other states don't learn from these farmers in the above mentioned states

[beetle]

7 minutes ago, Khota said:

It is about profit margin. Burning is cheaper. Are you willing to pay the extra price for removal?

They can raise the prices instead of choking people to death.

Do they ask govt to raise prices...no ,they just burn.

[Straight Drive]

Poluttion due to vehicles is also a cause.

[Khota]

10 minutes ago, beetle said:

They can raise the prices instead of choking people to death.

Do they ask govt to raise prices...no ,they just burn.

You do know government sets the price artificially.

[Khota]

1 minute ago, Straight Drive said:

Poluttion due to vehicles is also a cause.

Stubble burning has been going on for decades. Number of cars has only now increased to this level.

[rkt.india]

23 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

Rice is harvested throughout India. What are you talking about? Hopefully other states don't learn from these farmers in the above mentioned states

You do understand this situation happens more due to weather and not just burning of the crop waste. Cool nights lead to fog and when smoke gets attached to fog particles, it becomes smog. It is not the case in southern states. North East do get regular rains. Geographic position of NCR and west UP makes it worse. Lack of rain post monsoon, and multiple other factors have made the situation grave.  We don't get smog here while people here to burn their waste but the smoke doesn't stay due the winds.

Edited November 3, 2019 by rkt.india