Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 delightful shots by rohit Link to comment
Stan AF Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 What happened to O'Shane Thomas?. He used to bowl quick. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, Stan AF said: What happened to O'Shane Thomas?. He used to bowl quick. injured Link to comment
Amit228 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: how much ipl has he played?? There are so many who plays ipl who many have mastered yorker ?? so that happened with time n ur decarling someone brainless on debut coz in domestic u dnt bowl to Pollard again n again??? he was on his debut he wud only be after a period of time No one is a finished product till 3-4 yrs Brainless!!.. yes.. & i still stand with that... If u continue to dish full toss after full toss.. without even trying any slower ball.. en passant.. brainless will suffice for thakur & shami also.. in last 5 over india bowled one slower ball.. & it resulted in wicket of pooran.. after that even after dishing filths after filths.. no one tried change of pace.. Shami is an excellent test bowler.. but in limited over cricket his death bowling credentials doesn't invoke any confidence.. thus u see kohli favouring bhuvi instead of shami.. rightly so.. because prior to his injuries bhuvi was good enough to compliment Bumrah.. Test cricket & limited over cricket requires different skills as a bowler.. u can buy cheap wickets in limited over cricket .. yes!! However if u are mediocre.. then u will be thrashed for good more often than not... Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: So stats dont matter Arent u the one who quotes kohli useless bilateral number when his trophy cabinet is empty inloi Which match did he almost loose with his bowling ? Pandya now gives 8-10 overs that called 5th bowler. Infact he bowled with an injury his 10 overs very effectively in semi final Yes they don't matter when you are selecting two players who offer different things and Bhuvi was far more effective in death against Bangladesh when he played with Shami. Stop with your nonsenical statements, Kohli captained fricking two ICC tournaments after he became full fledged captain, you are sounding as if he has been losing them for decade. Show me one captain who has not lost two ICC tournaments. Pandya leaking runs also was one of the main reason why they lost that day.If he was sixth bowler , and Indian played Shami too instead of useless DK India would have won. I hope they don't make the same mistake again next year. Amit228 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Saini should have been a finished product by now, that is holding him back.I don't take these India A stats seriously they should be viewed with caution.He should use Bhuvi as an example of how to use IPL to better himself. Bhuvi used IPL to become a death bowler.Saini should do the same. Just like how under19 success does not mean players will succeed in higher level.This notion that Saini would have done better in test than players selected is also wrong. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, putrevus said: Yes they don't matter when you are selecting two players who offer different things and Bhuvi was far more effective in death against Bangladesh when he played with Shami. u take someone who is effective in death on patta not a seaming wkt 2nd - u dnt sit the highest wkt taker of year on bench coz he is obv better specially when the bowler have already pulled out in match while bowling and that day we just went with 5 bowlers how is bhuvi better when in seaming condition he didnt take a single wkt at start??? 3 minutes ago, putrevus said: Stop with your nonsenical statements, Kohli captained fricking two ICC tournaments after he became full fledged captain, you are sounding as if he has been losing them for decade. Show me one captain who has not lost two ICC tournaments. How many captains has had a team like him?? Twice he has lost to lesser teams , loosing to mighty Aus is understandble Show me how many captains have lost 2 ICC trophies going in as fav of tournament ?? even if u find one ull only find those guys have atleast won something as well . Its his luck that we dont play a lot of multination or it wud hve been worst 3 minutes ago, putrevus said: Pandya leaking runs also was one of the main reason why they lost that day.If he was sixth bowler , and Indian played Shami too instead of useless DK India would have won. ganja phhoka hai kya 5.5 is leaking runs??? that to bowling with hamstring injury chahal went for 6.3 that day.....thats what u call leaking runs NZ 5th bowler neesham n CDGH went for 6+ eco that day ?? The only diff was their pace boult n henry got wkts at start and bhuvi didnt zen 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Amit228 said: Brainless!!.. yes.. & i still stand with that... If u continue to dish full toss after full toss.. without even trying any slower ball.. en passant.. brainless will suffice for thakur & shami also.. in last 5 over india bowled one slower ball.. & it resulted in wicket of pooran.. after that even after dishing filths after filths.. no one tried change of pace.. Even shami doesnt have slwoer balls in his arsenal is he also brainless ?? some bowler develop that overtime Dont expect result in few games it takes years n years at international level to develop 10 minutes ago, Amit228 said: Shami is an excellent test bowler.. but in limited over cricket his death bowling credentials doesn't invoke any confidence.. thus u see kohli favouring bhuvi instead of shami.. rightly so.. because prior to his injuries bhuvi was good enough to compliment Bumrah.. thats why kohli is fool Shami is the highest wkt taker in 2019 and his s.r is far better then bhuvi If shami death bowling is an issue, bhuvi start middle is an issue to 10 minutes ago, Amit228 said: Test cricket & limited over cricket requires different skills as a bowler.. u can buy cheap wickets in limited over cricket .. yes!! However if u are mediocre.. then u will be thrashed for good more often than not... So ur saying saini is mediocre ? Link to comment
Amit228 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, putrevus said: Saini should have been a finished product by now, that is holding him back.I don't take these India A stats seriously they should be viewed with caution.He should use Bhuvi as an example of how to use IPL to better himself. Bhuvi used IPL to become a death bowler.Saini should do the same. Just like how under19 success does not mean players will succeed in higher level.This notion that Saini would have done better in test than players selected is also wrong. Exactly!! I second this.. at age of 27.. u aren't supposed to pass of ur mediocrity in cloak of being young (Atleast to international cricket) ... International cricket now days is ruthless.. u perform, improve or just disappear.. where no one will ever bat an eye for u again.. same goes for shami, shardul & all other bowlers above age 25.. Link to comment
Amit228 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: Even shami doesnt have slwoer balls in his arsenal is he also brainless ?? some bowler develop that overtime Dont expect result in few games it takes years n years at international level to develop thats why kohli is fool Shami is the highest wkt taker in 2019 and his s.r is far better then bhuvi If shami death bowling is an issue, bhuvi start middle is an issue to So ur saying saini is mediocre ? Yeah.. international cricket is not your home garden to improve (Atleast for guys above 25 yrs).. it's where when are u expected to deliver.... U can't call a 27 yr guy & shrug off his mediocrity under the cloak of being young..... Saini is mediocre in limited over cricket.. untill & unless he develops a consistent yorker & a deceptive slower ball.. working up pace solitary won't suffice in international cricket.. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Amit228 said: Yeah.. international cricket is not your home garden to improve (Atleast for guys above 25 yrs).. it's where when are u expected to deliver.... U can't call a 27 yr guy & shrug off his mediocrity under the cloak of being young..... Neither international cricket is fast food chain ull get immediately No cricketer comes polished from day 1 .....all have evolved over a time 1 minute ago, Amit228 said: Saini is mediocre in limited over cricket.. untill & unless he develops a consistent yorker & a deceptive slower ball.. working up pace solitary won't suffice in international cricket.. No one is legend or mediocre till he plays enough. Starc wasnt this legend in 1st game He went for almost 6 rpo that to wktless in his 1st game n they didnt complete his overs. Guys like malinga n starc became yorker specialist over a period of time. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 That cover drive from kl....one of the best in the season Link to comment
putrevus Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: u take someone who is effective in death on patta not a seaming wkt 2nd - u dnt sit the highest wkt taker of year on bench coz he is obv better specially when the bowler have already pulled out in match while bowling and that day we just went with 5 bowlers how is bhuvi better when in seaming condition he didnt take a single wkt at start??? How many captains has had a team like him?? Twice he has lost to lesser teams , loosing to mighty Aus is understandble Show me how many captains have lost 2 ICC trophies going in as fav of tournament ?? even if u find one ull only find those guys have atleast won something as well . Its his luck that we dont play a lot of multination or it wud hve been worst ganja phhoka hai kya 5.5 is leaking runs??? that to bowling with hamstring injury chahal went for 6.3 that day.....thats what u call leaking runs NZ 5th bowler neesham n CDGH went for 6+ eco that day ?? The only diff was their pace boult n henry got wkts at start and bhuvi didnt Bhuvi took more wicket than Bumrah, Did anyone stop Bumrah who is best bowler in world from taking wickets.You are second coming of nostrodomus who could have predicted that Shami would have done better than Bhuvi. So shut it with your nonseniscal stats. What teams he had, he had/has most unbalanced team where players like Pandya is fifth bowler and has no batting after no3.He still has most unbalanced team. Stop with delusions that he has great teams, no he does not have great team, it is his batting along with top three which makes India tick. Edited December 22, 2019 by putrevus Link to comment
Amit228 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: Neither international cricket is fast food chain ull get immediately No cricketer comes polished from day 1 .....all have evolved over a time No one is legend or mediocre till he plays enough. Starc wasnt this legend in 1st game He went for almost 6 rpo that to wktless in his 1st game n they didnt complete his overs. Guys like malinga n starc became yorker specialist over a period of time. Still!! There is no excuse for hard work!! The people who work hard in net will improve & will turn into legends.. the mediocre one hiding behind talent, young et al will jst perish.. Shami after all these years of IPL & international cricket is still pathetic in death overs.. u won't see shami featuring even as a strike bowler in his IPL franchise.. i ask wht is stopping him to get along bumrah like consistency in IPL & death overs in limited over internationals?? At age of 29.. being a fast bowler.. wht else u expect from one of ur premier bowler available in country?? Just hid behind "improving" without any considerable sign of real amends Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, putrevus said: Bhuvi took more wicket than Bumrah, Did anyone stop Bumrah who is best bowler in world from taking wickets.You nostrodomus is predicting that Shami would have done better than Bhuvi. No one is lucky every day Just now, putrevus said: So shut it with your nonseniscal stats. What teams he had, he had/has most unbalanced team where players like Panday is fifth bowler and has no batting after no3.He still most unbalanced team. He has best top 3 and best death bowler+ shami+ kulcha Seaming all rounder which neither ganguly had in 2003 wc nor dhoni in 2011 or 2015 Dhoni in 2011 had bowlers where yuvi turned out to be 2nd best bowler. In that team u cudnt think of 2nd bowler post zak. Middle order mess was his own created. Link to comment
FischerTal Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 you can tell how boring this game is when people argue about other things instead of the match itself Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Amit228 said: Still!! There is no excuse for hard work!! The people who work hard in net will improve & will turn into legends.. the mediocre one hiding behind talent, young et al will jst perish.. U cannot bowl 145+ without hard worl 1 minute ago, Amit228 said: Shami after all these years of IPL & international cricket is still pathetic in death overs.. Every ones lacks somewere Evwn starc has struggled in test cricket in last few yrs Rabadda pathetic in india 1 minute ago, Amit228 said: u won't see shami featuring even as a strike bowler in his IPL franchise.. Coz shami is not a good t20 bowler 1 minute ago, Amit228 said: i ask wht is stopping him to get along bumrah like consistency in IPL & death overs in limited over internationals?? Coz bumrah is once in generation cricketer How many 3 format players are there in world 1 minute ago, Amit228 said: At age of 29.. being a fast bowler.. wht else u expect from one of ur premier bowler available in country?? Just hid behind "improving" without any considerable sign of real amends He has a good yorker but not as consistent as many...yorkers needs a lot of fitness which has never been his strength Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, putrevus said: . What teams he had, he had/has most unbalanced team where players like Pandya is fifth bowler and has no batting after no3.He still has most unbalanced team. Ganguly 5th bowler was dinesh mongia in 2003 Dhoni won 2007 with joginer sharma raki05 and Forever Indian 1 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, putrevus said: Stop with delusions that he has great teams, no he does not have great team, it is his batting along with top three which makes India tick. what great side did NZ had in this Wc.... What great side did Pak had in 2017 CT raki05 1 Link to comment
Norman Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Iyer should come in next. Or Pant. Or Kuldeep. Or Shardul. Ok , anyone other than Kohli. Link to comment
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