INDIA A tour of New Zealand

[ShoonyaSifar]

21 hours ago, putrevus said:

It is not called being against young players.It is called siding with core players and giving them multiple chances.If tomorrow Kuldeep Yadav becomes core member and does not do well in certain places you still back him over some young player coming up.

 

Ashwin and Jadeja have earned that right  to represent India not just in India but overseas too.Yes they have failed to take 5fers or 10fers but given what they offer with bat and the balance they provide to the team I would play them over fading Kuldeep. 

 

Your views might differ on that, that is fine.

Core players who were not core players just 12 months ago in Aus or on the previous away tour cycles? Whatever you say

[ShoonyaSifar]

Gill batted at 4 in the last match, here he's opening with Vihrai. Mindboggling how they are shuffling batting positions without any thinking. 

[express bowling]

Gill batting 68 off 99 balls after opening the innings.

 

Vihari 59 off 73 balls as an opener too.

[express bowling]

Gill and Vihari are coming across as the in-form young batters now.

 

Runs in all 3 innings of the Unofficial Tests.

Edited February 9, 2020 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Gill batting on 90 off 132 balls now.

Edited February 9, 2020 by express bowling

[bowl_out]

100 for Gill.. He should start ahead of Shaw in the XI.. Open with Mayank and Gill

Edited February 9, 2020 by bowl_out

[express bowling]

Gill gets his century as an opener in 2nd Unofficial Test in NZ

 

Batting 106 off 152 balls now.

[express bowling]

3 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

100 for Gill.. He should start ahead of Shaw in the XI.. Open with Mayank and Gill

 

Agree totally !!

 

Gill should open in the upcoming test match.  

[RajBan]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

Gill and Vihari are coming across as the in-form young batters now.

 

Runs in all 3 innings of the Unofficial Tests.

Does not matter. Rahane will play , even Rohit would have played if he was fit.

[express bowling]

Just now, RajBan said:

Does not matter. Rahane will play , even Rohit would have played if he was fit.

 

Rahane at 5 and Vihari at 6

 

Gill can be the 2nd opener as Rohit is injured.

[Lannister]

Gill should be one of the Test openers against NZ. He is in rich form and you have to be seriously dumb not to select him. 

[Cricwala]

7 hours ago, Lannister said:

you have to be seriously dumb

You could have just said "you have to be seriously dumb Kohli"

 

We will likely see Mayank, Shaw, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Jadeja, Ashwin, Saha, Umesh (if Ishant stays unfit), Shami, Bumrah for first test.

 

If we lose 1st test, 2nd test might see Gill as one of the 2 openers is likely to fail in both innings of 1st test, Vihari & Pant cld replace Ashwin and Saha. 

[Lannister]

13 hours ago, Cricwala said:

You could have just said "you have to be seriously dumb Kohli"

 

We will likely see Mayank, Shaw, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Jadeja, Ashwin, Saha, Umesh (if Ishant stays unfit), Shami, Bumrah for first test.

 

If we lose 1st test, 2nd test might see Gill as one of the 2 openers is likely to fail in both innings of 1st test, Vihari & Pant cld replace Ashwin and Saha. 

This is Indian cricket at its peak in-terms of its talent pool, and we are stuck with this dumbass. 

[R!TTER]

52 minutes ago, Lannister said:

This is Indian cricket at its peak in-terms of its talent pool, and we are stuck with this dumbass. 

Hey, you just have to see the (political) leadership across the globe. Cricket is a reflection of the same, you have Boris *ing Johnson sinking the SS UK Titanic meanwhile DJT is leading US of A into a ditch with upright spears, although our own leadership isn't so bad we do have many dumbasses in the govt 

 

Why do you think cricket would be better? People are looking out for themselves, we or the collective us isn't a norm anymore heck people are fine being greedy & selfish & virtually portray it as a virtue! Brat is doing just the same 

[bowl_out]

Everyone seems to have gotten runs - 100 for Gill and Rahane.. 50s for Vihari, Pujara, Shankar

[R!TTER]

DP 

Edited February 10, 2020 by R!TTER

[Lannister]

11 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Why do you think cricket would be better? People are looking out for themselves, we or the collective us isn't a norm anymore heck people are fine being greedy & selfish & virtually portray it as a virtue! Brat is doing just the same 

Don't see how losing is going to help his image and help the brand BCCI. There are no rules within politics, you can use any means to achieve your goals (money and power). But in sports, only skills matter. Fans judge you based on your wins. They will discard you the moment you show any weakness on the field. Because no one likes to spend money on some losers. 

[R!TTER]

12 minutes ago, Lannister said:

Don't see how losing is going to help his image and help the brand BCCI.

He's still winning lots of meaningless bilaterals though, plus his own run rate (output) is great. The general public anyways has an attention span of a dodo, like the *wits still wanting Dhongi in the team. His place is secure as long as he's scoring runs & we aren't getting hammered ala 2011-13 under his guru.

[RajBan]

17 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

He's still winning lots of meaningless bilaterals though, plus his own run rate (output) is great. The general public anyways has an attention span of a dodo, like the *wits still wanting Dhongi in the team. His place is secure as long as he's scoring runs & we aren't getting hammered ala 2011-13 under his guru.

So true. When we were abysmal similar in SENA  during 2012-2016, it was very cleverly packaged by the team management then and supported by BCCI that it is normal to get whitewashed away as long as we are winning the series at home. It's a different thing that such arrogance and lack of vision led to home series defeat to England, but point is the current capatin and coach understands this aspect that average fans who are the bulk of the audience does not have a critical understanding of the game and their disappointments are temporary as they can be easily turned around with a quick series over Lanka or Zimbabwe. 

[ShoonyaSifar]

1 hour ago, Lannister said:

Don't see how losing is going to help his image and help the brand BCCI. There are no rules within politics, you can use any means to achieve your goals (money and power). But in sports, only skills matter. Fans judge you based on your wins. They will discard you the moment you show any weakness on the field. Because no one likes to spend money on some losers. 

For that the cricket reporting media (print and TV) has to be independent but Kohli (and before him Dhoni) have them on their payroll whoc act as their PR. Almost all such journos are the mouthpieces of the captain. Where else would you see absolutely no criticism of the captain (and the coach) despite a WC disaster or for random decisions esp. on young players.