Param Mastishk Pheeka Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, gattaca said: Dude has used poor Indian population as Guinea pigs for his vaccine trials. His vaccine company was banned by Indian govt. False claim. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/dec/20/blog-posting/anti-vaccination-blog-revives-debunked-hpv-story/ Official GOI Ministry of Health and Family Welfare press release that BMGF is not banned in India from performing health-related work:. https://pib.gov.in/newsite/mbErel.aspx?relid=158277 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cliff Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Param Mastishk Pheeka said: What's in it for Bill Gates, I wonder? Dude has accomplished more than anyone ever has and perhaps ever will. $$$ and depopulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Param Mastishk Pheeka Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Ambitions never die https://m.economictimes.com/industry/healthcare/biotech/healthcare/controversial-vaccine-studies-why-is-bill-melinda-gates-foundation-under-fire-from-critics-in-india/articleshow/41280050.cms There were no deaths. False claim. See above or just read this part: No deaths The government commissioned a group of physicians and researchers to investigate whether the vaccination program caused any deaths. In February 2011, the group reported there was no connection. One girl drowned. Insecticide poisoning killed two others. Two others had severe malaria. One was bitten by a poisonous snake and one died from a disease that physicians said "can not be linked possibly to HPV." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Param Mastishk Pheeka Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 There are a lot of misgivings not just in India, but even in religious America, about anti-HPV vaccine Gardasil. Parents feel like it is an unnecessary vaccine and assumes their kids are having sex. This is an understandable apprehension. But once this feeling is entrenched, folks will find anything to back up their non-support of the HPV vaccine. sandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Param Mastishk Pheeka said: What's in it for Bill Gates, I wonder? Dude has accomplished more than anyone ever has and perhaps ever will. See, IMO, At this age, $$$ are just bi product. I do not question his intent about vaccine at all. So, outcome of that study will be what Bill Gates wants. velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Param Mastishk Pheeka said: There are a lot of misgivings not just in India, but even in religious America, about anti-HPV vaccine Gardasil. Parents feel like it is an unnecessary vaccine and assumes their kids are having sex. This is an understandable apprehension. But once this feeling is entrenched, folks will find anything to back up their non-support of the HPV vaccine. Yes, on other end of Spectrum, MMR was linked to autism. Hundreds of studies have been carried out , they debunked that claim, and even the doc who linked MMR has been struck of UK medical register. Every time we went to doc with our lil one, The doc advised its safe, blah blah blah. Now funny part. My child attended a nursery where mostly it was kids of Docs and Senior Consultants. And there was chicken pox outbreak in nursery Edited April 7, 2020 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 @Mariyam i think you are confused .. considering the corona cases in mumbai , if you want to eliminate the possibility of your death or suffering , take 400mg of HCQ ( Hydroxychloroquine ) for 2 days after meals .. randomGuy, Stradlater and sandeep 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 34 minutes ago, velu said: @Mariyam i think you are confused .. considering the corona cases in mumbai , if you want to eliminate the possibility of your death or suffering , take 400mg of HCQ ( Hydroxychloroquine ) for 2 days after meals .. Stop giving out medical advice Dr Velu. velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Param Mastishk Pheeka Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 hour ago, velu said: @Mariyam i think you are confused .. considering the corona cases in mumbai , if you want to eliminate the possibility of your death or suffering , take 400mg of HCQ ( Hydroxychloroquine ) for 2 days after meals .. 396 or 405 mg, not 400 mg. The numbers must add up to 9. sandeep, Stradlater, randomGuy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Param Mastishk Pheeka Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, mishra said: Yes, on other end of Spectrum, MMR was linked to autism. Hundreds of studies have been carried out , they debunked that claim, and even the doc who linked MMR has been struck of UK medical register. Every time we went to doc with our lil one, The doc advised its safe, blah blah blah. Now funny part. My child attended a nursery where mostly it was kids of Docs and Senior Consultants. And there was chicken pox outbreak in nursery The reason Wakefield was "struck out" was because it came out it became obvious that he had committed fraud. https://scholar.google.com/scholar_lookup?journal=BMJ&title=The+fraud+behind+the+MMR+scare&author=F+Godlee&volume=342&publication_year=2011&pages=d22& Edited April 7, 2020 by Param Mastishk Pheeka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Param Mastishk Pheeka said: The reason Wakefield was "struck out" was because it came out it became obvious that he had committed fraud. https://scholar.google.com/scholar_lookup?journal=BMJ&title=The+fraud+behind+the+MMR+scare&author=F+Godlee&volume=342&publication_year=2011&pages=d22& I think you did not read or intentionally ignored the send para of my response. You will find answer there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Param Mastishk Pheeka Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, mishra said: I think you did not read or intentionally ignored the send para of my response. You will find answer there. I did read it. But I cannot prove or disprove your claim because it is not documented anywhere. But Wakefield's fraud can be proven since the data are public. Plus, MMR vaccinateion does not vaccinate against chicken pox. MMRV does. So, there ... Edited April 8, 2020 by Param Mastishk Pheeka I can't effin spell sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, Param Mastishk Pheeka said: I did read it. But I cannot prove or disprove your claim because it is not documented anywhere. But Wakefield's fraud can be proven since the data are public. Plus, MMR vaccinate does not vaccinate against chicken pox. MMRV does. So, there ... I share what I experience. MMR is banned in Japan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboysfan Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Param Mastishk Pheeka said: False claim. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/dec/20/blog-posting/anti-vaccination-blog-revives-debunked-hpv-story/ Official GOI Ministry of Health and Family Welfare press release that BMGF is not banned in India from performing health-related work:. https://pib.gov.in/newsite/mbErel.aspx?relid=158277 you will find that ICF is populated by crazy conspiracy theorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Param Mastishk Pheeka Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 hours ago, mishra said: I share what I experience. MMR is banned in Japan ... and autism rates plummeted there after MMR withdrawal? Not really. Here's the real science. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1469-7610.2005.01425.x Actually, come to think of it, I think I know the real cause of autism. Buying organic food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 ^ You proved my point about Gates research in efficacy of Chloroquinn against Corona virus. BTE, Some things cant be taught in school and researched. For example, You have to be a parEnt to understand love and care of parents towards their kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 Official projections of USA deaths: Minimum death projection have come down from 100000 to 30000 over past few days? https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america Some of this This due to hydroxychloroquine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Param Mastishk Pheeka Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, randomGuy said: Official projections of USA deaths: Minimum death projection have come down from 100000 to 30000 over past few days? https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america Some of this This due to hydroxychloroquine? The old projection was based on little or no physical distancing. The new one is takes distancing measures into account. HCQ is not yet widely available and even when imports come in, they are only being used for controlled trials and not to be distributed to general public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Param Mastishk Pheeka said: The old projection was based on little or no physical distancing. The new one is takes distancing measures into account. HCQ is not yet widely available and even when imports come in, they are only being used for controlled trials and not to be distributed to general public. I think Without physical distancing the projections were more than a million deaths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Param Mastishk Pheeka Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, randomGuy said: I think Without physical distancing the projections were more than a million deaths There were multiple models. The "official" one never went that high, but hovered around the 100000 range, I think. Edited April 8, 2020 by Param Mastishk Pheeka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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