Real McCoy Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, zen said: In Sachin-Inzi playing days, there were not too many forums. But on selected forums in those days, many people from Pak did claim Inzi is better. Well they must be smoking those funny cigarettes back then Adi_91 and raki05 2 Link to comment
zen Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Well they must be smoking those funny cigarettes back then Note that Inzi was among the best of his time too. There were articles like this one - https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/23095046 Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, zen said: Note that Inzi was among the best of his time too. There were articles like this one - https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/23095046 not denying that but thanks very much to this raki05 1 Link to comment
zen Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: not denying that but thanks very much to this The umpiring in Pak was not as bad as in the 80s. Anyone who has watched cricket in that era would know that home umpiring in many countries was an issue including India for e.g. Tests vs. SA in 96, Kumble's 10-er, Ind's win vs. Aus at Kol in 2001, etc. Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, zen said: The umpiring in Pak was not as bad as in the 80s. Anyone who has watched cricket in that era would know that home umpiring in many countries was an issue including India for e.g. Tests vs. SA in 96, Kumble's 10-er, Ind's win vs. Aus at Kol in 2001, etc. Whats the point that you're trying to make Link to comment
zen Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Whats the point that you're trying to make That you made random comments like "Nobody even pakistanis dared to mention inzy is better than sachin." and "thanks very much to this" Edited August 6, 2020 by zen Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, zen said: That you made random comments like "Nobody even pakistanis dared to mention inzy is better than sachin." and "thanks very much to this" Are you suggesting that Inzi was better than Sachin. If not, you are just throwing an argument for argument's sake raki05 1 Link to comment
zen Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Real McCoy said: Are you suggesting that Inzi was better than Sachin. If not, you are just throwing an argument for argument's sake Does not matter what I think (Ind PoV). Many in Pak rated Inzi better so the statement "Nobody even pakistanis dared to mention inzy is better than sachin." is not accurate. Link to comment
raki05 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 9 hours ago, Real McCoy said: not denying that but thanks very much to this Wow what kind of umpiring was that....first 2 sought was absolute plumb. Real McCoy 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 8 hours ago, zen said: The umpiring in Pak was not as bad as in the 80s. Anyone who has watched cricket in that era would know that home umpiring in many countries was an issue including India for e.g. Tests vs. SA in 96, Kumble's 10-er, Ind's win vs. Aus at Kol in 2001, etc. What was wrong with kumble 10fer. Which lbw decision looks dodgy to u. Real McCoy 1 Link to comment
raki05 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 5 hours ago, zen said: Does not matter what I think (Ind PoV). Many in Pak rated Inzi better so the statement "Nobody even pakistanis dared to mention inzy is better than sachin." is not accurate. Ya some random one like u rated....but for them even umar Akmal was greater than Kohli and Ahmed Shehzad has more talen than Tendulkar. Do u think you were the only one there are few in Pakistan as well.. Real McCoy 1 Link to comment
zen Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, raki05 said: Ya some random one like u rated....but for them even umar Akmal was greater than Kohli and Ahmed Shehzad has more talen than Tendulkar. Do u think you were the only one there are few in Pakistan as well.. We are talking about Inzi .... Likes of Wasim too have rated him above Sachin from below: https://cricketaddictor.com/cricket/wasim-akram-top-5-batsmen/ Wasim Akram's five best ever batsmen in order of ranking: 1. Sir Vivian Richards 2. Martin Crowe 3. Brian Lara 4. Inzamam-ul-Haq 5. Sachin Tendulkar #Cricket 7:45 AM · Jun 5, 2020 Link to comment
New guy Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 13 hours ago, zen said: The umpiring in Pak was not as bad as in the 80s. Anyone who has watched cricket in that era would know that home umpiring in many countries was an issue including India for e.g. Tests vs. SA in 96, Kumble's 10-er, Ind's win vs. Aus at Kol in 2001, etc. This is what happens when you keep drinking the Pak cool aid. The highlights of kumble 10 fer is available on YouTube. show me one single decision which was worse than an umpires call. P.S. Afridi making faces after edging behind with a clear deflection doesn't count raki05 and Real McCoy 2 Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 10 hours ago, zen said: Does not matter what I think (Ind PoV). Many in Pak rated Inzi better so the statement "Nobody even pakistanis dared to mention inzy is better than sachin." is not accurate. 4 hours ago, zen said: We are talking about Inzi .... Likes of Wasim too have rated him above Sachin from below: https://cricketaddictor.com/cricket/wasim-akram-top-5-batsmen/ Wasim Akram's five best ever batsmen in order of ranking: 1. Sir Vivian Richards 2. Martin Crowe 3. Brian Lara 4. Inzamam-ul-Haq 5. Sachin Tendulkar #Cricket 7:45 AM · Jun 5, 2020 I wouldn't look much into how pakistanis think. Their thinking is warped by their hatred of ENDIA. Even their cricketers are not far behind. You are right there maybe some pakistani nuts who over hyped Inzy and think their Inzy innings in 4th innings against Bangladesh is greater than Sachin's exploits. I underestimated their (lack of) mental capabilities. I would consult some neutral sources. No neutral in their right mind puts Inzy over Sachin. Case closed raki05 1 Link to comment
zen Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, New guy said: This is what happens when you keep drinking the Pak cool aid. The highlights of kumble 10 fer is available on YouTube. show me one single decision which was worse than an umpires call. P.S. Afridi making faces after edging behind with a clear deflection doesn't count Buddy, I do not drink either Ind or Pak cool aid - both can taste bad at times! Talking about Afridi that you listed. From what I recall, Afridi was late on the ball. The deflection happened after the ball passed the bat, which can happen with roughed up ball on such a pitch. From a fair point of view, at a minimum a benefit of doubt should have gone to the batsman. But if you feel otherwise so be it. Article from 1999 I don’t know about you but have seen enough games in India to see the standard of umpiring where bad decisions result from either deliberate or through a lack of competence (and similarly in other countries) Edited August 7, 2020 by zen Link to comment
raki05 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, zen said: We are talking about Inzi .... Likes of Wasim too have rated him above Sachin from below: https://cricketaddictor.com/cricket/wasim-akram-top-5-batsmen/ Wasim Akram's five best ever batsmen in order of ranking: 1. Sir Vivian Richards 2. Martin Crowe 3. Brian Lara 4. Inzamam-ul-Haq 5. Sachin Tendulkar #Cricket 7:45 AM · Jun 5, 2020 Pakistanis have always rated that out of jealousy and they have habit of switching their statements until they earn something out of india. Anyway I can see again an useless attempt to derail this thread by you . BTWPakistanis can feel whatever they want its not going to make any difference. I remember Akhtar saying kahe ka bhagwan and shaking leg statement and than again after seeing Indian INR switching to sachin se maar khana bhi kishmat ki baat hai. So no response for me any further as your sachin obsession is on another level and unfortunately I can't cure it. Edited August 7, 2020 by raki05 Real McCoy 1 Link to comment
zen Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, raki05 said: Pakistanis have always rated that out of jealousy and they have habit of switching their statements until they earn something out of india. Anyway I can see again an useless attempt to derail this thread by you . BTWPakistanis can feel whatever they want its not going to make any difference. I remember Akhtar saying kahe ka bhagwan and shaking leg statement and than again after seeing Indian INR switching to sachin se maar khana bhi kishmat ki baat hai. So no response for me any further as your sachin obsession is on another level and unfortunately I can't cure it. You do realize that Pakistanis in Pak tooting horn of Imran, Inzi or whoever are similar to Indians in India getting unnecessarily obsessed over Tendulkar (esp. in trying to show he is the greatest). There is no big difference between the two groups Link to comment
Khota Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Babar is absolutely a very good batsman, no doubt about that. Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 He lacks the quintessential ability to convert tons into big hundreds or a double or triple. Also he needs to show consistency. There are many players who strike peak for an year or two and then it's the same average of below 45 yet again. Link to comment
Tibarn Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Methinks you guys are hyping him a bit too much regarding scoring runs everywhere, granted I never watch the padosis play any matches so maybe the stats are lying but nothing he has done so far suggest world beater in Tests: Good batsman, but he hasn't done anything ground breaking Career summary Grouping Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s in Australia 2016-2019 5 10 0 278 104 27.80 462 60.17 1 1 1 32 0 in England 2018-2020 2 3 1 142 69 71.00 246 57.72 0 2 0 21 0 in Ireland 2018-2018 1 2 0 73 59 36.50 139 52.51 0 1 0 11 0 in New Zealand 2016-2016 2 4 1 142 90* 47.33 308 46.10 0 1 0 16 0 in Pakistan 2019-2020 3 4 2 405 143 202.50 548 73.90 3 1 0 47 3 in South Africa 2018-2019 3 6 0 221 72 36.83 279 79.21 0 2 0 46 0 in U.A.E. 2016-2018 8 15 2 527 127* 40.53 1034 50.96 1 4 2 43 6 in West Indies 2017-2017 3 6 1 136 72 27.20 361 37.67 0 2 3 11 1 Link to comment
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