SENA batting stats 2016-2020

[zen]

SENA batting stats 2016-2020 .... from one of my posts:

 

 

Min 6 games .... "away" (not home) stats for all batsmen 

 

 

In the top order 

 

Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s   CA Pujara (INDIA) 2018-2020 14 25 1 1041 193 43.37 2827 36.82 4 4 3 109 2   DP Sibley (ENG) 2019-2020 6 10 1 362 133* 40.22 929 38.96 1 0 0 56 1   KC Brathwaite (WI) 2016-2020 11 21 0 800 134 38.09 1728 46.29 1 6 2 89 5   D Elgar (SA) 2016-2017 10 19 0 717 140 37.73 1641 43.69 3 3 2 99 1   Azhar Ali (PAK) 2016-2020 18 34 3 1166 205* 37.61 2843 41.01 3 4 2 135 2   Shan Masood (PAK) 2016-2020 10 19 0 634 156 33.36 1351 46.92 1 3 1 72 5   HM Amla (SA) 2016-2017 10 18 1 559 87 32.88 1096 51.00 0 4 1 80 4   JL Denly (ENG) 2019-2020 6 10 0 323 74 32.30 912 35.41 0 2 0 40 3   AN Cook (ENG) 2016-2018 10 19 1 576 244* 32.00 1199 48.04 1 1 0 65 0   Sami Aslam (PAK) 2016-2016 6 12 1 337 91 30.63 952 35.39 0 3 0 37 2   JM Vince (ENG) 2017-2018 6 11 0 336 83 30.54 694 48.41 0 3 0 50 0   MD Stoneman (ENG) 2017-2018 7 13 0 393 60 30.23 875 44.91 0 4 1 48 1   UT Khawaja (AUS) 2016-2019 9 17 0 496 140 29.17 819 60.56 1 2 0 78 0   JK Silva (SL) 2016-2017 6 12 0 310 79 25.83 752 41.22 0 2 1 38 0   FDM Karunaratne (SL) 2016-2019 12 24 1 533 79 23.17 1108 48.10 0 4 3 66 0   KL Rahul (INDIA) 2018-2019 10 19 0 386 149 20.31 653 59.11 1 0 3 53 2   Imam-ul-Haq (PAK) 2018-2019 6 12 1 207 57 18.81 454 45.59 0 1 3 27 1   DA Warner (AUS) 2016-2019 10 19 0 351 63 18.47 562 62.45 0 3 3 49 1   M Vijay (INDIA) 2018-2018 7 14 0 177 46 12.64 588 30.10 0 0 3 19 0

 

 

In the middle order 

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
SPD Smith (AUS)	2016-2019	9	16	1	1178	211	78.53	1905	61.83	4	6	0	142	9
JE Root (ENG)	2016-2020	15	27	2	1314	226	52.56	2467	53.26	2	11	0	153	2
BA Stokes (ENG)	2016-2020	11	19	0	951	258	50.05	1371	69.36	2	4	1	120	21
Babar Azam (PAK)	2017-2020	10	17	2	703	104	46.86	1102	63.79	1	6	0	106	0
AD Mathews (SL)	2016-2018	8	15	3	561	120*	46.75	1162	48.27	1	3	0	65	2
SD Hope (WI)	2017-2020	7	12	1	506	147	46.00	1043	48.51	2	1	1	79	1
F du Plessis (SA)	2016-2017	9	16	3	575	118*	44.23	1118	51.43	1	5	1	85	1
V Kohli (INDIA)	2018-2020	15	29	0	1277	153	44.03	2467	51.76	4	6	2	148	2
Younis Khan (PAK)	2016-2017	9	17	1	654	218	40.87	1334	49.02	2	1	1	75	7
JM Bairstow (ENG)	2016-2019	11	19	2	682	150*	40.11	1276	53.44	3	0	2	83	4
J Blackwood (WI)	2016-2020	9	17	1	624	104	39.00	937	66.59	1	4	1	75	6
Mohammad Rizwan (PAK)	2016-2020	6	10	1	351	95	39.00	655	53.58	0	3	2	37	1
BKG Mendis (SL)	2016-2019	7	14	2	458	141*	38.16	898	51.00	1	3	2	60	1
RR Pant (INDIA)	2018-2020	9	16	1	568	159*	37.86	833	68.18	2	0	1	58	12
Q de Kock (SA)	2016-2017	10	15	1	529	104	37.78	792	66.79	1	4	0	67	5
DJ Malan (ENG)	2017-2018	7	13	0	461	140	35.46	1071	43.04	1	4	1	62	1
T Bavuma (SA)	2016-2017	10	18	0	608	89	33.77	1353	44.93	0	6	0	76	0
N Dickwella (SL)	2018-2019	6	9	1	251	80*	31.37	330	76.06	0	2	1	30	1
Asad Shafiq (PAK)	2016-2020	19	35	0	1055	137	30.14	1885	55.96	2	7	5	129	5
TD Paine (AUS)	2018-2019	9	18	4	395	62	28.21	821	48.11	0	2	1	45	3
Misbah-ul-Haq (PAK)	2016-2017	8	15	0	402	114	26.80	907	44.32	1	2	2	44	3
AM Rahane (INDIA)	2018-2020	13	25	0	664	81	26.56	1576	42.13	0	4	2	67	4
JP Duminy (SA)	2016-2017	7	13	1	305	141	25.41	614	49.67	1	0	0	42	2
GH Vihari (INDIA)	2018-2020	6	11	0	256	56	23.27	581	44.06	0	2	1	36	1
Sarfaraz Ahmed (PAK)	2016-2019	14	22	2	464	59*	23.20	671	69.15	0	3	4	54	0
LD Chandimal (SL)	2016-2018	7	12	0	263	126	21.91	570	46.14	1	0	0	32	1
HH Pandya (INDIA)	2018-2018	7	13	1	252	93	21.00	400	63.00	0	2	2	38	2
DM de Silva (SL)	2016-2019	7	13	0	265	48	20.38	492	53.86	0	0	0	31	2
MR Marsh (AUS)	2016-2019	7	12	0	235	96	19.58	529	44.42	0	1	2	32	2
MM Ali (ENG)	2017-2018	6	11	0	207	40	18.81	467	44.32	0	0	2	23	2
RL Chase (WI)	2017-2020	10	20	0	353	64	17.65	811	43.52	0	2	3	45	0
SO Dowrich (WI)	2017-2020	7	12	1	161	61	14.63	324	49.69	0	1	2	23	0

 

 

 

• In the top order, an avg of 30+ appears to be acceptable. Ideally, need players who can avg around 35 (if not more)
• In the middle order, we need more batsmen to avg 40+ 

 

 

In 2016-20 period, Ind, basically, relied on Pujara, a virtual opener in many games, in the top order (the leader in that group) and Kohli in the middle order .... Pant and SDP (Hardik), playing as ARs, have played a couple of good knocks and could have been further developed on potential 

Edited December 23, 2020 by zen

[express bowling]

@zen

 

You need to post these stats, leaving out home tests for players ( like Smith, Root, Williamson )

 

Most players score much more at home.

[Vk1]

6 minutes ago, express bowling said:

@zen

 

You need to post these stats, leaving out home tests for players ( like Smith, Root, Williamson )

 

Most players score much more at home.

yes SENA for us should become SENI for Aus, SINA for eng so on

[express bowling]

1 minute ago, Vk1 said:

yes SENA for us should become SENI for Aus, SINA for eng so on

 

 

Exactly !

[Vk1]

unfortunately SouthAfrica is regressing very fast and mostly due to that cultural BS .  we might have to call it ENA very soon.. thankfully the tiny kiwis seem to produce good talent and puch above their weight. 

[zen]

41 minutes ago, express bowling said:

@zen

 

You need to post these stats, leaving out home tests for players ( like Smith, Root, Williamson )

 

Most players score much more at home.

 

These are already "away" stats (outside their home) for all batsmen in top order and middle order respectively  .... I will add the "away" note in the OP for more clarity .... also min games played in the respective batting order is 6

 

PS Therefore, talking about Root .... In Aus, NZ and SA:

 

Overall avg in the period is 51

In top order 26 (1 game only)

In middle order 53 (15 games, which is what you see here in the MO section)

 

PPS Similarly, for Vihari in SENA 

 

Overall avg is 21 

In top order 11 (1 game only)

In middle order 23 (6 games, which is what you see here in the MO section)

Edited December 23, 2020 by zen

[Lone Wolf]

37 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

unfortunately SouthAfrica is regressing very fast and mostly due to that cultural BS .  we might have to call it ENA very soon.. thankfully the tiny kiwis seem to produce good talent and puch above their weight. 

Lots of South Africans are moving to countries like NZ.  Both Glenn Philippe & Devon Conway are Saffers & now the future of kiwi batting line ups.  Saffers are still producing top players but quota system will ruin their cricket. 

[Vk1]

11 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Lots of South Africans are moving to countries like NZ.  Both Glenn Philippe & Devon Conway are Saffers & now the future of kiwi batting line ups.  Saffers are still producing top players but quota system will ruin their cricket. 

yes.. how unfortunate it is..  

Another six months of SA cricket should clear the doubt if SENA should remain SENA or become ENA.  This migration will help NZ become stronger.

Edited December 23, 2020 by Vk1

[Vk1]

Also, I think comparing vs SENA for India is a lot more tougher for India than it is for the rest of the SENA countries.. if we compare Australia against SENI, conditions in SA are very much similar to Aus and vice-versa so they have an advantage there.. likewise for Eng and NZ.  However considering the resources India has, it is not unreasonable to expect from our team. 

 

[Gollum]

54 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

unfortunately SouthAfrica is regressing very fast and mostly due to that cultural BS .  we might have to call it ENA very soon.. thankfully the tiny kiwis seem to produce good talent and puch above their weight. 

RSA will bounce back like in rugby.

In 2 decades time they went from

to

 

All SENAW countries are sporting powerhouses (WI fails in cricket because of different reasons, imagine fielding a cricket team with 3 Indians, 2 Pakistanis, 2 Lankans, 2 Toygers and one each from Afg, Nepal without a committed board).

 

Coloured+Black population in RSA is over 90% and they were kept away from mainstream cricket for so long despite having interest. And they have pretty good cricketers from these communities like Ntini, Amla, Philander, Rabada, Duminy, Maharaj, Ngidi. Give them some time, these quotas will pay dividends just like in rugby. 

[Vk1]

1 hour ago, Gollum said:

RSA will bounce back like in rugby.

In 2 decades time they went from

to

 

All SENAW countries are sporting powerhouses (WI fails in cricket because of different reasons, imagine fielding a cricket team with 3 Indians, 2 Pakistanis, 2 Lankans, 2 Toygers and one each from Afg, Nepal without a committed board).

 

Coloured+Black population in RSA is over 90% and they were kept away from mainstream cricket for so long despite having interest. And they have pretty good cricketers from these communities like Ntini, Amla, Philander, Rabada, Duminy, Maharaj, Ngidi. Give them some time, these quotas will pay dividends just like in rugby. 

 

Your post looks very promising. however I guess Cricket is not as popular a sport as Rugby is..  it will be even more difficult in such case. Hope they come back with a bang in another 5 years.

 

[Gollum]

31 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

Your post looks very promising. however I guess Cricket is not as popular a sport as Rugby is..  it will be even more difficult in such case. Hope they come back with a bang in another 5 years.

Among non-whites cricket has always been more popular there, or should I put it this way-> less aversion to cricket than rugby!!!! During apartheid years rugby was seen as the Afrikaner (Dutch descent) sport and rightly so, non-whites actively hated it.....associated the sport with the tyrant rulers. It was very common to see their rugby teams getting booed by non-whites even in early-mid 90s, 1995 WC partially changed that trend. They even wanted to ban Springboks, shown in the movie Invictus

 

Cricket was the English sport and English origin people in that country were different compared to Afrikaners, many wanted to end the unjust system, generally seen as more sympathetic and less racist in the eyes of the oppressed. 

 

For RSA blacks football is #1 by a long distance, cricket #2 and rugby #3. For brown folks, don't even need to say. Moreover rugby is seen as more elitist over there, played in schools/Unis out of reach for majority blacks. 

 

This quota system was very much needed, but have to be patient before results start to show, may even take 15-20 years more (one generation) but guarantee RSA's days as a top cricket team are far from over. After isolation due to apartheid they came back as a top 2-3 team in 1991-92 and if not for ATG Aus they would have been compared to ATG WI in the 90s and 2000s, one can imagine how good their system is and their sports culture 

Edited December 23, 2020 by Gollum

[Tyron]

19 hours ago, Gollum said:

Among non-whites cricket has always been more popular there, or should I put it this way-> less aversion to cricket than rugby!!!! During apartheid years rugby was seen as the Afrikaner (Dutch descent) sport and rightly so, non-whites actively hated it.....associated the sport with the tyrant rulers. It was very common to see their rugby teams getting booed by non-whites even in early-mid 90s, 1995 WC partially changed that trend. They even wanted to ban Springboks, shown in the movie Invictus

 

Cricket was the English sport and English origin people in that country were different compared to Afrikaners, many wanted to end the unjust system, generally seen as more sympathetic and less racist in the eyes of the oppressed. 

 

For RSA blacks football is #1 by a long distance, cricket #2 and rugby #3. For brown folks, don't even need to say. Moreover rugby is seen as more elitist over there, played in schools/Unis out of reach for majority blacks. 

 

This quota system was very much needed, but have to be patient before results start to show, may even take 15-20 years more (one generation) but guarantee RSA's days as a top cricket team are far from over. After isolation due to apartheid they came back as a top 2-3 team in 1991-92 and if not for ATG Aus they would have been compared to ATG WI in the 90s and 2000s, one can imagine how good their system is and their sports culture 

my partner is saffer. They still have legit talents. I agree its an elitist sport in south africa just like it is in india. South africa will bounce back. It will probably take another 5 years but rabada, ngidi, nortje is a fantastic pace attack for SENA conditions. I am 100% sure they will pump pakistan again with a bouncer barrage attack.