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Ultimate_Game Grand Master

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4 hours ago, Mosher said:

Is he quick?

 

4 hours ago, tapandrun said:

not sure, will have to see

 

Absolutely useless and could barely hit 130. No pace, bounce, seam or swing. Aussie and Eng women pacers bowl with more pace than Satyanarayana, and he definitely isn't "RA Fast". He's barely military medium, and I can't understand what MI scouts and team saw in him to be played. Absolutely mediocre and if he's ahead of likes of Karthik Tyagi and Umran Malik, then we're in serious trouble.

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1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

 

Absolutely useless and could barely hit 130. No pace, bounce, seam or swing. Aussie and Eng women pacers bowl with more pace than Satyanarayana, and he definitely isn't "RA Fast". He's barely military medium, and I can't understand what MI scouts and team saw in him to be played. Absolutely mediocre and if he's ahead of likes of Karthik Tyagi and Umran Malik, then we're in serious trouble.

Ya.can the scout be fired but lets give coiple of matches and see what he brings to the table..

tapandrun Grand Master

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2 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

 

Absolutely useless and could barely hit 130. No pace, bounce, seam or swing. Aussie and Eng women pacers bowl with more pace than Satyanarayana, and he definitely isn't "RA Fast". He's barely military medium, and I can't understand what MI scouts and team saw in him to be played. Absolutely mediocre and if he's ahead of likes of Karthik Tyagi and Umran Malik, then we're in serious trouble.

This is exactly Ind team want  short slow pacers, all the great fast bowlers have been like this. Dar, satya, sakaria. Where are they getting these bowlers from ????

Ultimate_Game Grand Master

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4 hours ago, tapandrun said:

This is exactly Ind team want  short slow pacers, all the great fast bowlers have been like this. Dar, satya, sakaria. Where are they getting these bowlers from ????

 

Akash Madhwal was the best of the lot. I thought he had some x-factor, and definitely better than Satyanarayana. He almost looked like Hasan Ali. Don't know what happened to him and is nowhere to be seen.

tapandrun Grand Master

tapandrun

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8 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Akash Madhwal was the best of the lot. I thought he had some x-factor, and definitely better than Satyanarayana. He almost looked like Hasan Ali. Don't know what happened to him and is nowhere to be seen.

All these bowlers are good for 1-2 seasons and thats it, need proper bowlers to create a core and then when its the wc year hopefully you get some fast bowler with t20 skills.

These skills are good as long as batters are not fully aware of the variations or pitches really suites the bowler. Its either they have some data on when the bowler is bowling which ball or just that the batter are getting too strong.

 

Madhwal was brisk, he had that tennis/tape ball kind of bowling run-up, transition and action where everything was in 1 single motion, no certain changes. 

This works fine till the batter is nt use to of it as the bowler has already cut the time to get into the power stance/batter can nt pre-empt the bowlers. But as soon as batter figures that out its easy, plus madhwal can not bat, these type of bowlers are your #3/4 bowler so they got to bat.

 

For a t20 vaiation bowler can you re-invent yourself every-time every-season ??

Bravo was the only bowler who was able to sustain season after season with that kind of bowling, but he was a batter 1st, a v.good fielder and then when the season was nt going good he can opt out of bowling 

 

 

 

  

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45 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Akash Madhwal was the best of the lot. I thought he had some x-factor, and definitely better than Satyanarayana. He almost looked like Hasan Ali. Don't know what happened to him and is nowhere to be seen.

Akash is with Rajasthan Royals. 

Ultimate_Game Grand Master

Ultimate_Game

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1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

All these bowlers are good for 1-2 seasons and thats it, need proper bowlers to create a core and then when its the wc year hopefully you get some fast bowler with t20 skills.

These skills are good as long as batters are not fully aware of the variations or pitches really suites the bowler. Its either they have some data on when the bowler is bowling which ball or just that the batter are getting too strong.

 

Madhwal was brisk, he had that tennis/tape ball kind of bowling run-up, transition and action where everything was in 1 single motion, no certain changes. 

This works fine till the batter is nt use to of it as the bowler has already cut the time to get into the power stance/batter can nt pre-empt the bowlers. But as soon as batter figures that out its easy, plus madhwal can not bat, these type of bowlers are your #3/4 bowler so they got to bat.

 

For a t20 vaiation bowler can you re-invent yourself every-time every-season ??

Bravo was the only bowler who was able to sustain season after season with that kind of bowling, but he was a batter 1st, a v.good fielder and then when the season was nt going good he can opt out of bowling 

 

 

 

  

 

 

There're some who show potential and seem to have a higher ceiling. Madhwal looked like that. He had more pace, and was skiddy. Way better than what we saw with Satyanarayana. But he should get 3-4 games to make sure he gets a proper run.

 

If you look at the current pacers in white-ball cricket, Tier 1 is Bumrah, Arshdeep, and Harshit. Tier 2 is: Shami, Khaleel, and Yash Dayal. And Tier 3 is: Siraj, Mukesh, Avesh Khan.

 

Need to add to this list and build a pipeline where we get in-form pacers from the pool for tourneys. Hopefully Mayank gets fit, and Karthik Tyagi finally turns the corner, and we unearth a couple of young pacers along with pace all-rounders like Nitish Reddy and Venky Iyer :pray:

Suhaan Grand Master

Suhaan

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2 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

Disappointing season from a fast bowling pov, don't think we will see any 150kph + tearaways this year. 

Ap ne sahi farmaya Ghalib

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