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Ankit_sharma03

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All team shud unleash pace against CSK specially bowler who can bowl good short balls, look at their batsman 

 

  • Raina- cant handle it 
  • Moeen - hates bouncers
  • Sam curran- area of concern in batting is short ball
  • Rayudu - doesnt like pace n bounce
  • Ruturaj- in awful form 
  • Faf- Rusty
  • Dhoni- out of touch completely 

 

Dont play to much spin against them coz that what they their batsman like, Just pace. 

 

  • MI- use Milane
  • KKR- Use sandeep warrier , i saw him in practice game bowling that uncomfortable length to russell and troubling him
  • KXIP- keep meredith
  • RCB- No other option then saini
  • SRH- what were u even thinking at auction
  • RR- do whatever best u can till Archer arrives
  • DC- they have rabada, nortje, avesh 

 

What CSK needs to do- quickly figure our Raina n Ruturaj, if they want to back them or not. Last yr giving to many games to vijay n jadhav costed them MANY GAMES. Hari nishanth looks a good player, Uthappa came after a stellar Vijay hazare 

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7 minutes ago, Adamant said:

Apart from Duplessis, i agree. 

Others aren't good enough when it comes to facing bouncers. Just hit their rib cage. 

i didnt say faf cant play bouncer but he is rusty , dhoni is a very good player of short ball even being out of touch last yr he didnt look uncomfortable against it.

 

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Good Point but unfortunately 90% of player in world cricket these days struggle against express pace + short pitch.

 

Even Kohli,Smith can be trapped with good short pitch. Kohli was out to short pitch  from even trundlers like Rubel and Amir.

 

In fact short ball has been used  as a strategy even by Indian team against SENA counties.

 

sure CSK is easy pickings. Agree with the OP

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7 hours ago, Global.Baba said:

Good Point but unfortunately 90% of player in world cricket these days struggle against express pace + short pitch.

 

not 90%, no IPL has batsman in cluster who has this issue

 

  • KXIP- Pooran short ball issue is there, Mayank issue is moving ball, Gayle age has created this issue still he tries to sees it off
  • RR- only dube maybe
  • SRH- warner is showing signes of getting hurried against high pace in last 1-2 yrs but u need an archer, rabada for that 
  • MI- they are fine
  • KKR- Rana, Tripathi, Morgan...but their intent is damn good 
  • RCB- all are fine
  • Dc-fine

 

7 hours ago, Global.Baba said:

Even Kohli,Smith can be trapped with good short pitch. Kohli was out to short pitch  from even trundlers like Rubel and Amir.

 

In fact short ball has been used  as a strategy even by Indian team against SENA counties.

 

sure CSK is easy pickings. Agree with the OP

 

Those are rare days and test matches but this is white ball and raina, moeen problem has been major one

 

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3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

not 90%, no IPL has batsman in cluster who has this issue

 

  • KXIP- Pooran short ball issue is there, Mayank issue is moving ball, Gayle age has created this issue still he tries to sees it off
  • RR- only dube maybe
  • SRH- warner is showing signes of getting hurried against high pace in last 1-2 yrs but u need an archer, rabada for that 
  • MI- they are fine
  • KKR- Rana, Tripathi, Morgan...but their intent is damn good 
  • RCB- all are fine
  • Dc-fine

 

 

Those are rare days and test matches but this is white ball and raina, moeen problem has been major one

 

KKR Dre Russ is god awful against short balls.  Last two years he’s been crap against a lot of things.

 

He is specialist bowler now.

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8 minutes ago, GeeGaw said:

KKR Dre Russ is god awful against short balls.  Last two years he’s been crap against a lot of things.

 

He is specialist bowler now.

 

but the thing with someone like Russell n pooran even , if u miss it by a margin they will hurt u bad. 

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4 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

not 90%, no IPL has batsman in cluster who has this issue

 

  • KXIP- Pooran short ball issue is there, Mayank issue is moving ball, Gayle age has created this issue still he tries to sees it off
  • RR- only dube maybe
  • SRH- warner is showing signes of getting hurried against high pace in last 1-2 yrs but u need an archer, rabada for that 
  • MI- they are fine
  • KKR- Rana, Tripathi, Morgan...but their intent is damn good 
  • RCB- all are fine
  • Dc-fine

 

 

Those are rare days and test matches but this is white ball and raina, moeen problem has been major one

 


I have seen Virat bounced out by Trundler Amir in WC or even Rubel from Bangladesh. He was obviously manhandled by  Fidel Edward’s very early on where even Raina looked better equipped.

 

Smith was getting owned by Archer in Ashes. Suffered a concussion too and since then has been targeted with short pitch.

 

Yes Both Virat and Smith once they are set obviously any bowling is tough to get them out but early on in their innings they are susceptible to short pitch because they are not natural players of short bowling, it’s a skill they developed as they evolved unlike Rohit,Rahane or some SA and other Aus players. In fact Maxwell is susceptible against quality pace. He bashes spinners and trundlers mostly.

 

 

 

Gayle is another guy who at 41 doesn’t have the same instinct for high pace.

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7 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:

Smith was getting owned by Archer in Ashes. Suffered a concussion too and since then has been targeted with short pitch.

Neil Wagner owned his a** with pure short stuff in their 2019/2020 test series.

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9 minutes ago, Global.Baba said:


I have seen Virat bounced out by Trundler Amir in WC or even Rubel from Bangladesh. He was obviously manhandled by  Fidel Edward’s very early on where even Raina looked better equipped.

 

even boult has troubled him with short ball but u can say he has weakness , every big player wud have gotten out on it. Even good pullers like ponting n rohit have been ruffed up with it 

 

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Smith was getting owned by Archer in Ashes. Suffered a concussion too and since then has been targeted with short pitch.

 

yea but never got out to him, even wagner caused him issue. 

He has an issue but he also can grind it out like waugh, and example we misuse on anyone ....smith does it actually

 

But we are talking about guys like raina, moeen, curran, rayudu who arent kohli, smith.....those guys dnt need archer to rough them up or will get out once in a while...their problem has been major . These guys dnt even come close to the names ur mentioning.  In last few yrs i have seen raina getting out by hardik (chalo he still has decent pace) , i have seen him being bounced oout by 125k bowlers in domestic

 

Yea with gayle i mentioned his age is to much but he also tries to see it off and then he can still pick a bowler and wack him 20+ in each over. Gayle wont be trouble by 125k bowler bouncer , infact unless its an archer or rabada he can manage

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